DanS HJ-45
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FWIW--I should be flying in on the night of the 12th, and then around for 5 days. I don't know just how much spare time I'll have (hopefully putting the 40 back together
) but I'll at least be nearby...Dan
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FWIW--I should be flying in on the night of the 12th, and then around for 5 days. I don't know just how much spare time I'll have (hopefully putting the 40 back together
) but I'll at least be nearby...Dan
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It looks like I have to put a hold on pulling my engine. That weekend I will be leaving for Tennessee that day or the day before for a H55, bell housing, and flywheel. The last major parts I need to get this swap moving down the road.
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My dad and I cancelled our trip out to Tennessee and decided to have the parts shipped in so I could make more progress on school projects and working on my forty.
Almost to the day 2 years ago,I brought the forty home and now it is tucked away in a garage once again. I took it for its last drive last night and started taking it apart. My front doors, dash, and all the lights are bagged, tagged, photographed and boxed.
I am thinking this Saturday I will pull my engine and start parting out the drivetrain. Just want all my school project put to rest first before tearing in. I'll post up closer to the day if everything is a green light and if people want to stop by they are more than welcome.
Just some ideas that have been floating around in my mind is using a FJ62 radiator because it has the lines for the tranny cooler, but use those for a PS cooler, and that will make life easier in that area. Need to check that the outlets line up, but I think they do for a 1HZ. Also planning on FJ80 brake booster and master because I plan on upgrading to rear disk. Also I have read in the 80 section about using an alternator out of a Tundra or Sequoia thats either 130 or 150 amps that bolts up pretty close to stock on a 1FZ, and a 1HZ shares some design features with a 1FZ so I plan on exploring that.
Thats it for now.
Almost to the day 2 years ago,I brought the forty home and now it is tucked away in a garage once again. I took it for its last drive last night and started taking it apart. My front doors, dash, and all the lights are bagged, tagged, photographed and boxed.
I am thinking this Saturday I will pull my engine and start parting out the drivetrain. Just want all my school project put to rest first before tearing in. I'll post up closer to the day if everything is a green light and if people want to stop by they are more than welcome.
Just some ideas that have been floating around in my mind is using a FJ62 radiator because it has the lines for the tranny cooler, but use those for a PS cooler, and that will make life easier in that area. Need to check that the outlets line up, but I think they do for a 1HZ. Also planning on FJ80 brake booster and master because I plan on upgrading to rear disk. Also I have read in the 80 section about using an alternator out of a Tundra or Sequoia thats either 130 or 150 amps that bolts up pretty close to stock on a 1FZ, and a 1HZ shares some design features with a 1FZ so I plan on exploring that.
Thats it for now.
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I have started stripping down the forty. The front clip is off along with most the inside. Luckily, no snapped bolts yet, just some stubborn screws. Taking lots of pictures along the way, plus labeling the wiring harness that will be loosing a lot of weight when it gets rebuilt.
The bellhousing and H55 I was hoping to get turned out to be in poor condition. The guy selling it let me know once he started breaking it down for me. I am taking it as a sign to maybe just go buy a new H55. Time will tell and there is plenty of work to be done before worrying too much about getting those parts in yet.
Thinking I won't be pulling that engine quite yet do to some unfinished school work and I want a spot for it once it comes out, which means I need to work my tetris skills in the garage to get parts up and out of the way.
Next plan of action after pulling the drivetrain is rebuilding both axles. Both axles will get sent out for blasting and then receive paint, rebuilds and brake upgrades. From there I will do power steering, and then rebuild my splitcase.
Thats it for now, and of course pictures.
The bellhousing and H55 I was hoping to get turned out to be in poor condition. The guy selling it let me know once he started breaking it down for me. I am taking it as a sign to maybe just go buy a new H55. Time will tell and there is plenty of work to be done before worrying too much about getting those parts in yet.
Thinking I won't be pulling that engine quite yet do to some unfinished school work and I want a spot for it once it comes out, which means I need to work my tetris skills in the garage to get parts up and out of the way.
Next plan of action after pulling the drivetrain is rebuilding both axles. Both axles will get sent out for blasting and then receive paint, rebuilds and brake upgrades. From there I will do power steering, and then rebuild my splitcase.
Thats it for now, and of course pictures.
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This weekend I made progress on the 40. Guy came over and we pulled the rest of my wiring harness and finished stripping out the instead and taking off the front clip. The wiring harness wasn't in too bad of shape. A couple pieces of it still had the original part number stickers on it.
I have a 1HZ flywheel coming in, but it needs a resurface. Recommendations on a machine shop. Budlong?
I have a 1HZ flywheel coming in, but it needs a resurface. Recommendations on a machine shop. Budlong?
Edwards Engines down on Second St Across from Napa did mine.
Budlong is great with 80 series heads. They ought to be able to handle a flywheel with no problem.
Edwards did the flywheel in Da'40. Budlong can also do them.
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Good deal on the information on getting the flywheel cleaned up. It should be here in about a week or so.
The next item on the agenda is to get working on is my transfercase, but I run into an issue here. I have to run a splitcase behind a H55 5speed. No problem if your parking brake is on the axle. Only late model 40s and newer land crusers have this option. So I can try to get a late model 40 axle, but can't run rear disk like I want, not running a parking brake, order in a very expensive FF 70 series rear axle with disk and parking brake, or get creative!
On the get creative option I have two options. Order in parts from All-Pro and make up a parking brake or order a kit from TSM. Both kits have had okay reviews at best. Would there be a way to modify them to achieve more clamping force? I currently have a under the dash parking brake pull, but what if I got a later model 40 or 60 model lever parking brake handel.
Transfer Case Mounted Disc Parking Brake
FJ 60 Land Cruiser
I am going to be putting my case back together in a couple weeks once school is out and thought this would be a good time to start throughing around ideas on what I should do.
The next item on the agenda is to get working on is my transfercase, but I run into an issue here. I have to run a splitcase behind a H55 5speed. No problem if your parking brake is on the axle. Only late model 40s and newer land crusers have this option. So I can try to get a late model 40 axle, but can't run rear disk like I want, not running a parking brake, order in a very expensive FF 70 series rear axle with disk and parking brake, or get creative!
On the get creative option I have two options. Order in parts from All-Pro and make up a parking brake or order a kit from TSM. Both kits have had okay reviews at best. Would there be a way to modify them to achieve more clamping force? I currently have a under the dash parking brake pull, but what if I got a later model 40 or 60 model lever parking brake handel.
Transfer Case Mounted Disc Parking Brake
FJ 60 Land Cruiser
I am going to be putting my case back together in a couple weeks once school is out and thought this would be a good time to start throughing around ideas on what I should do.
Paul: when preparing for my disk brake swap, I recall that some people were using disk brakes from a Cadillac that had the parking brake built into the caliper in some way or another (search here on MUD). Did not look into the details as I went with the Monte Carlo setup. You may have already read about this, but if not I thoughts I would post.
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I did read about those and they seemed more iffy than the transfercase parking break.
I don't know if a combination of the two would work, but that seems funky and I should be able to make something that will work.
I also don't want to use a line lock that works with the calipers themselves.
I am curious if I could mount two of the mechicancal calipers around a disk, so I could get more surface area on the disk? Any thoughts from the engineers?
I don't know if a combination of the two would work, but that seems funky and I should be able to make something that will work.
I also don't want to use a line lock that works with the calipers themselves.
I am curious if I could mount two of the mechicancal calipers around a disk, so I could get more surface area on the disk? Any thoughts from the engineers?
put disc brakes on your existing axle. they make mounting brackets that you weld on and use calipers from another vehicle that has integrated parking brake. I think cadilac or el dorado calipers are used most often. that's the cheapest option IMO.
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I could change the order how I proceed with this project and try to get the rear calipers with parking brake to work. If they don't work I already have my rear disk done and just disconnect the parking brake. I should do that before I take apart the forty any more I guess, so I can test it out.
Does anyone or has anyone tried those calipers?
The other option would be take rear disks with parking brake off another vehicle (perferably a Toyota) and make an adapter plate from my current axle housing to a brake assembly. Thats what is happening already with the disk brackets.
Time to do some research.
It seems like the main issue is getting a new backing plate on the axle and thats where I need an adapter unless I get lucky and the bolt pattern matches up. I feel like that is unlikely because I know that late model 40 rear axles change housings to match 60 series. But, even if two or one of the holes matched up I could bolt up the new backing plate and then use it as a template to drill new holes to finsh mounting the new backing plate that contains the parking brake and caliper. Just thinking out load, but seems like it might be possible.
Going to look at 100 series and newer 4runners because they are semi-float rear axles. If this works I am going to have parts from every series landcruiser minus a 25 and a 200 and I bet I could work those in if I really wanted to.
Does anyone or has anyone tried those calipers?
The other option would be take rear disks with parking brake off another vehicle (perferably a Toyota) and make an adapter plate from my current axle housing to a brake assembly. Thats what is happening already with the disk brackets.
Time to do some research. It seems like the main issue is getting a new backing plate on the axle and thats where I need an adapter unless I get lucky and the bolt pattern matches up. I feel like that is unlikely because I know that late model 40 rear axles change housings to match 60 series. But, even if two or one of the holes matched up I could bolt up the new backing plate and then use it as a template to drill new holes to finsh mounting the new backing plate that contains the parking brake and caliper. Just thinking out load, but seems like it might be possible.
Going to look at 100 series and newer 4runners because they are semi-float rear axles. If this works I am going to have parts from every series landcruiser minus a 25 and a 200 and I bet I could work those in if I really wanted to.
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I have a buddy that used the calipers on a FJ62 and loved it.
Even bolt on...John and I have brackets from Poser here on Mud that bolt on to to the axle housing where the drum brakes bolt on. I have monte carlos calipers and plan to use Tom Woods rotor parking brake when I get around to swap'n in the NV4500 and a split case.
http://www.4xshaft.com/graphics/p rotor kit copy.JPG
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Interesting, I wonder how he mounted up on the rear axle. Are there any pictures of this?
You plan on mounting that disk off the tranfsercase? It looks very similar to what All Pro carries. If I wasn't dealing with the splitcase issue I would just run Posers brackets. Do the monte carlo calipers have the parking brake and if so how do they engage?
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Paul:
I have plans to go visit TSM sometime very soon--as I've got the same issue. Turns out they are in the Denver area, so I kind of want to see one of their units in person, and to see what can be done about increasing the clamping force.
The All Pro, Woods, TSM, MAF T-case disc setups all appear to use the same 1600lb caliper to me....
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I have plans to go visit TSM sometime very soon--as I've got the same issue. Turns out they are in the Denver area, so I kind of want to see one of their units in person, and to see what can be done about increasing the clamping force.
The All Pro, Woods, TSM, MAF T-case disc setups all appear to use the same 1600lb caliper to me....
Dan
he had the weld on caliper mounts. not sure what the rest was. he doesn't have the vehicle anymore. all the info was found online.
yes, and they had the park brake. they took his cable for the stock lever from the drums IIRC. they are just a mechanical way to clamp onto the rotor.
I run the Monte Carlo calipers on the back of Da'40 and they don't have a parking brake. As already mentioned the El Dorado Caddy calipers do have the parking brake. I've heard lots of noise about using those, but I've never seen documentation of somebody actually doing it.
I seem to recall that many of the rear disk brakes use a drum type setup for the parking brake. I think the inside of the rotor hat is used. It would be cool to see if a late model LC/4Runner/Sequoia setup would work.
I seem to recall that many of the rear disk brakes use a drum type setup for the parking brake. I think the inside of the rotor hat is used. It would be cool to see if a late model LC/4Runner/Sequoia setup would work.
