Preserving Patina - How To Tips and Tricks (4 Viewers)

[G-Cat]

^^^yep, and I think dogfish landed on GoofOff as the best for stripping rattlecan off of factory Toyota paint.

 

[wngrog]

The spray bottles of Goof Off are worthless. The little bottles that are like lighter fluid tho.....that’s how I got the rattle off Patina.

 

[Lucille]

Ive used Goof Off in the past to remove the adhesive behind badges and had it eat through the clear coat on my Tundra (rookie mistake). Obviously i dont have that problem here so ill give it a shot. Whats the worse that can happen? I make it look worse? lol

 

[G-Cat]

Yeah...and don’t confuse Goof Off with any of the Goo Gone line of products.

I used Goof Off in an aresol can to get black tar off of my 85 truck back in the day and the stuff is amazing.

 

[dogfishlake]

Im working on a 74 now that has great patina but also has some previous repair issues from the previous owner. Everything that appears red is some sort of primer to cover some of the bondo. They went buckwild and got a lot of it in spots that didnt need it. Any advice on removing it but not the factory blue underneath? Id be happy with just getting the red off and letting the metal do its rust thing.

My plan is to use Nolen's CLR method to remove all the oxidation from the paint and hopefully that will remove some of the red. I did a few test spots first and the CLR really brightens it up. Next is to use the rust converter once it comes in on the frame/undercarriage, but i dont plan on using it on the outer body. Its just too far gone to try and convert. Ill probably top it all off with the BLO as recommended in the first post.

Any clue where to get color matched spray paint to match the light blue? I may just have to cover some of it up to try and get it a cohesive color (plus the rust patina)

Thanks in advance.

Here is Lucille in all her glory.

I think you will be amazed at how good your truck will look after working it over. Laquer thinner works well amd wont do much to the factory paint. My favorite so far is Goof Off. It takes of spray paint awesome and does pretty much nothing to the factory paint. Use a green scotch brite or Bounty towels. They are just abrasive enough (wood fiber) to scrub and they don't fall apart plus super absorbent. If you can find the Goof Off in a spray it it is easier.

 

[dogfishlake]

Ive used Goof Off in the past to remove the adhesive behind badges and had it eat through the clear coat on my Tundra (rookie mistake). Obviously i dont have that problem here so ill give it a shot. Whats the worse that can happen? I make it look worse? lol

The 40+ year aging process on the truck paint pretty much keeps it from softening with lacquer thinner or goof off

 

[Lucille]

Thanks for the tips guys. I have a bulk order of green scotch brite pads, a gallon of goof off and a couple spray bottles coming from Amazon. Once i get back from offshore the old girl is getting some shine back.

 

[wngrog]

Picked up a new pig that needs a Patina preservation to play with last week.

This one will take different steps on different panels as the paint and damage are all different

So this is where I started.

This is after just Griots polish and wax. No CLR needed here as the paint did not have a lot of nasty stuff in it like a horizontal surface will pick up

I did the same on the white section and it cleaned and shined nicely making the white go from a chalky white to the OEM off white it is supposed to look like

You can really tell the difference here in the upper fender white and the hood

 

[wngrog]

A potential local buyer came by today that is better at paint correction (turd polishing) than anyone I know so I was pretty much done with it until he decides if he wants it.

Then @Dustin Messina wanted a demonstration so I knocked out a door and part of the hood just to show the process.

Door was the same process as the fender. Check out this difference

The hood had so much dirt in the paint I took it out first with a light CLR scrub. Light only to clean it but careful not to swirl the paint with the Scotchbrite

Clean but dull

Next I polished that section with the Griots polish and orbital and the Cygnus White popped right out.

Finally, I oiled up the rusted metal areas and grill with some Fluid Film. I’m not even going to use Boiled Linseed on this truck. I think Fluid Film can replace it completely.

 

[FJBen]

Sorta off topic, when did Toyota move to a base/clear coat setup?

 

[wngrog]

Sorta off topic, when did Toyota move to a base/clear coat setup?

With the 80 series

 

[FJBen]

With the 80 series

Makes sense to when you see messed up clear coat. It’s always faded on 80s, but all the older look good.

 

[RodrigzCrzr]

Good job!

 

[Lucille]

I followed the recipe Nolen graciously put up on Lucille this weekend. Came out great.

A before shot.

After

 

[wngrog]

That shine will soak in after a week or so too. Looks great.

 

[ceylonfj40nut]

A potential local buyer came by today that is better at paint correction (turd polishing) than anyone I know so I was pretty much done with it until he decides if he wants it.

Then @Dustin Messina wanted a demonstration so I knocked out a door and part of the hood just to show the process.

Door was the same process as the fender. Check out this difference

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The hood had so much dirt in the paint I took it out first with a light CLR scrub. Light only to clean it but careful not to swirl the paint with the Scotchbrite

Clean but dull
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Next I polished that section with the Griots polish and orbital and the Cygnus White popped right out.

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Finally, I oiled up the rusted metal areas and grill with some Fluid Film. I’m not even going to use Boiled Linseed on this truck. I think Fluid Film can replace it completely.

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@wngrog do you dilute the CLR before use? How long do you scrub? How long do you leave it on the panel? How do you neutralize it? Wash it with soap and water?

 

[wngrog]

I pour it straight into the Scotchbrite

Does not take much.

Scrubbing depends on level of filth as well as the condition of the paint underneath.

The Scotchbrite will scratch paint if it’s good paint and if you scrub too hard.

Start light. Work up in pressure.

Also, just water to wash off.

 

[Runnin On Empty]

Ok so I finally started the CLR/converter/FF today. I cleaned and put one coat of RC on the trans tunnel. The bottle I have says to brush or roll on. I have a sprayer with a long hose attachment. I’m wanting to spray RC in the frame and all under the truck. Would y’all recommend trying to shoot it or just FF the entire frame and undercarriage?

 

[wngrog]

For the frame you can skip the Converter and just use Fluid Film. It will soak in. Let it stay onthick.

I only use rust Converter on parts that I plan on painting. If not, it gets Fluid film

 

[Runnin On Empty]

For the frame you can skip the Converter and just use Fluid Film. It will soak in. Let it stay onthick.

I only use rust Converter on parts that I plan on painting. If not, it gets Fluid film

10-4!
That makes life easier. As always, thanks!