My WARN 8274 rebuild part 1..... (5 Viewers)

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Hi Flint, I have a 8274 winch that came with my jeep. Recently it didnt work so I took off the cover and cleaned up all the connections and it worked. A month later it didnt work again so again I took off the cover and cleaned up everything but this time it didnt work. I flicked my controller switch a few times and it started to work. Do you think I need to replace my solenoids? Since one or 2 or all might be seized? The problem is I can't find any replacements. Ive heard of all these conversions etc but I would just like to replace it and keep it stock. Any help would be great and you seem the like guy with the answers lol.

cheers
 
Was brought here by this thread, great detailed write up btw. I just picked up an 8274 dating back to Jan of 78, just a few months older than me. As I live I'm the great frozen north east, I had a hell of a battle with removing the brake assembly & I am definitely going to need to order new ball bearings. As far as the solenoids go, has anyone considered using the solenoids for an electric over hydraulic snow plow such as a Meyers or western. They are a continuous duty solenoid rated for 150 amps. I'm considering these since a local snow plow distributor I'm my area has these available at $9 each. Not really into the Albright upgrade, just trying to get this working on a budget
 
rvns said:
Hi Flint, I have a 8274 winch that came with my jeep. Recently it didnt work so I took off the cover and cleaned up all the connections and it worked. A month later it didnt work again so again I took off the cover and cleaned up everything but this time it didnt work. I flicked my controller switch a few times and it started to work. Do you think I need to replace my solenoids? Since one or 2 or all might be seized? The problem is I can't find any replacements. Ive heard of all these conversions etc but I would just like to replace it and keep it stock. Any help would be great and you seem the like guy with the answers lol.

cheers
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The solenoids tend to get "sticky" without frequent use, the older they are...the worse they get. Most folks opt to do the "Albright" upgrade rather than fool with the factory style solenoids. Easy to mount the Albright in a remote location as well.
 
Hi, all. First post on this forum. I just found this thread after a loooong search of the internet for information on parts numbers and the rebuilding of my 8274, serial #98729. Many thanks to you, flint, and all the folks who have posted to this thread. In my opinion, over the past 4 years this thread has become *THE* go-to spot for those who want to rebuild their 8274 but don't know a lot about this model winch, and are a little hesitant about tearing it apart and putting it all back together correctly.

Couple/three questions:

1) How did you go about drilling and tapping the brake pinion shaft? That is hardened metal. A few days ago I had access to a machine lathe. The operator clamped the shaft in place, selected the proper drill bit, and the bit made a loud screech at first contact with the shaft. He said the bit ain't gunna drill into that shaft without the bit dieing in the process.

2) In post 191, lulo shows his 8274, but the brake shaft has what appears to be a nut threaded onto a stud, with a spacer between the nut and the outer brake disc. Also, the outer brake disc has different casting ribs than all the other winches in this thread. Is there a different type of this winch sold outside the United States?

3) Did you upgrade the ground wire attatchment point from the battery to the motor? I'm not sure, but I am guessing the ground wire is attacthed to one of the bolts that holds the motor to the winch case. The Bill Vista Pirate thread mentioned welding a bolt on the motor casing for a better grounding point, but I am hesitant to do so without knowing if the heat from this will affect any of the motor parts inside the case. I plan to upgrade all the external wiring for this winch (the 2 long battery and the 3 short motor to solenoid wires) to #2 welding cable with crimped copper lugs. Thoughts?
 
my 8274

Picked this up with a bumper for $350, I replaced all the wear parts and painted it all, total came to $350 from driveline products here in Canada. I wanted to take a whole bunch of photos, but in the end once i got my hands covered in oil, i could only stop so many times to clean up and take a photo.

First post, but figured since I used this thread to rebuild mine, I would add a little bit to it.

Paint is duplicolor enamel cast aluminum color, and the black is tremclad black. Turned out pretty good I think, electrical to be done tomorrow and will bench test it, I have no worries tho, worked before I took it apart, should work fine now that its back together.

this video: Warn 8274 Rebuild video # 2 Re-assembly of winch - YouTube is what I used to put the brake back together, worked like a dam, got it on my first try with just a simple pair of vice grips. In this video tho he doesnt show installing the keys, so once its clamped, i slid in the keys and then installed the snap ring.

was a pain to get the assembly back into the winch with the little piece of cardboard used to seat the seal, i found I had to keep the brake clamped, hit the end of the shaft with a hammer until the seal was seated, and then remove the cardboard, and clamp for the shaft to then slide into its bearing enough that the locking plate could slide into place. Not sure if that makes sense, i would have loved to have documented it better.

Ill add a handful more pictures once the selenoids and wiring is done.

I do plan on searching for another used one of these, see if i cant get a rusty one for under $200, I will try and document that one better.

this one serial 36664, date code BB0


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Another way to assembly the brake.

1. Lay the outer brake housing down on something with an opening in it, so the shaft can be inserted from the top. I used an old piece of plywood on top of a vise,
2. Put brake ring ( fibre) on housing,
3. Put centre piece with ratchet on ( red in my pics;
4. But other brake ring ( fibre) on,
5. Install large washer type piece and then the ball bearings around it.
6. Assembly brake shaft with bushing, seal, outer brake (inboard side) and spring, insert into the other brake assembly you made above.
7. Push down on brake shaft, apply a very small amount of grease to the two keys to make the stick, insert keys from bottom and then in stall retaining clip from bottom.

Very easy to do. First time success.
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Finally got the winch done after making a bumper to mount it on. It was in sorry shape, but a complete teardown to it's individual parts, sandblast/painting, and rebuild made for a nice finished product.

Before, as bought and delivered:

[URL="http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/almostashop/8274%20Winch/DSC00807resize.jpg"] [/URL]


After:

This thread provided a lot of good information. Thanks for the inspiration and guidance. I made the zerk fitting mod to the right drum case and cover, added a small bolt for topping off the oil "if" it deveops a leak, and added a bolt through the motor case for a better ground from the battery to the motor. New brake kit, lower end kit, all new electrical with #2 welding cable, and new bearings for the motor and brake shafts.

Little bit of detail-- Saved the original decal.... just becuase.

[URL="http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/almostashop/8274%20Winch/DSC00972_resize.jpg"] [/URL]


Test fit with plastic fairlead:

[URL="http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/almostashop/8274%20Winch/DSC00860resize-1.jpg"] [/URL]


Finshed with synthetic rope and hardware from Off Road Solutions.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/almostashop/Front Bumper/DSC00946_resize.jpg

 
Great thread! Between yours and Awl_TEQ's threads there's more than enough inspiration to tackle one of these winches.

Mine's all finished up with the exception of the wiring. I highly recommend the solenoid cover that Awl_TEQ manufactures, it's beautifully made.

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Douglas S said:
Great thread! Between yours and Awl_TEQ's threads there's more than enough inspiration to tackle one of these winches.

Mine's all finished up with the exception of the wiring. I highly recommend the solenoid cover that Awl_TEQ manufactures, it's beautifully made.
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WOW, some of you guys have taken refurbishing the 8274 to new heights!

Good job.


Flint
 
8274brake said:
Another way to assembly the brake.

1. Lay the outer brake housing down on something with an opening in it, so the shaft can be inserted from the top. I used an old piece of plywood on top of a vise,
2. Put brake ring ( fibre) on housing,
3. Put centre piece with ratchet on ( red in my pics;
4. But other brake ring ( fibre) on,
5. Install large washer type piece and then the ball bearings around it.
6. Assembly brake shaft with bushing, seal, outer brake (inboard side) and spring, insert into the other brake assembly you made above.
7. Push down on brake shaft, apply a very small amount of grease to the two keys to make the stick, insert keys from bottom and then in stall retaining clip from bottom.

Very easy to do. First time success.
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Is the brake in your picture painted or reman or new? Source?
 
Brake is used, bead blasted, and pained red with Tremclad. The paint on the teeth came off after a few minutes of use.....
 
Hi Guys, I made some rebuild tutorials for the 8274, I have a few more winch vids coming out, 8274 mods and remote control hook up. Here is my playlist on youtube:

Warn winch rebuild tutorials - YouTube

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Hi guys
Great thread and very informative, am just about to rebuild my 8274 and was wondering what the grey finnish is in some of the pics, the hammered affect ?
 
Does anyboby repop the warn sticker on top of the upper housing
 
Or call. They'll send it out to you.
 
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