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I don't have a wife so I'm kind of unchecked which is very very costly :)

I had ordered this HKB Electronics alternator voltage booster a while back...took a bit of time to get here from down under. Got it, installed it...really cool. This lets the alternator charge up AGMs that need more voltage to make them happy. Up to 14.7 volts. I had originally planned on using this for the #1 truck since it has always struggled with charging the AGMs in that truck(before the re-do though). One slight issue....that truck has an 80 harness in it(mostly :)) so I needed the full size fuse. Not the mini one. Guess I'll need another one. Fortunately the mini one fit the #2 truck.

HKB Electronics

The Alternator Voltage Booster was the first of its type on the market and is the only unit available that was has been purpose built for alternator voltage boosting.
www.hkbelect.com

Cool little fuse with a resistor in it.....there are some really great home brew ways to do this but I like adding invoices to my build folders :)
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Fits in the Alt S spot on the fuse box under the hood.

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I would see anything from high 12s to maybe 14.1 on this truck. Running dual Odysseys and the Terrain Tamer alternator. With the alternator booster, I'm seeing 14.5-14.7 on both batteries. Looks like it's working.

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I'm going to include this on this thread...not sure it will help anyone with a 70 out but if it does, great. I bought a turd of a FJ62 over the weekend and it has a filthy headliner. FILTHY. I kind of just want to clean this truck up and sell it so I don't want to dump a ton in it and certainly don't want to put a headliner in.....so I thought I would try to clean it. It's a type of cloth....typical off white, ultra light grey.

This is what I stared with:

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This is what I sprayed on it.....saturating the fabric.
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I then worked it in with a boars hair detail brush. Mopped it up with a microfiber....and voila.....like new. Probably better than me taking my Hotsy power washer to it :)

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As it dried, it turned even whiter. Amazing. My mind was blown today. Now I just have the rest of it to do :)
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I guess some of you people know better then I do, but if someone goes to a shop that does these conversions do they actually sit down with the customer and say this build will cost you $80,000 or whatever. If I were to have 1 of these done I'd be fine with $80K but I'd want to know that up front. And I hate hearing that "if you have to ask you cant afford it" because like I said I'd be ok with $80K just not $200k therefore I'd ask up front. Im wondering if a lot of these builds get abandoned because the people who start them have no real expection of what it will cost. I guess also I don't know the life expectancy of these vehicles either. Someone commented as much as a cummins ram. Well living in the midwest I see a lot of rams that are only a year or two old and they are rust buckets. I kniw that the cummins will go for awhile but everything else will fall apart. I know the Toyota deisel engines will run for ever but how does the rest of it hold up. I'm 42 and if I bought a ram the engine might take me to retirement but the rest of the truck would be junk. How would the Toyota do? I guess my last question would be can this conversion be done with a double cab? Because if I bought a ram it would be a double cab. Or i guess 1 more question could it be done with a 76 onto 80 series frame?
 
80seriesnut said:
I guess some of you people know better then I do, but if someone goes to a shop that does these conversions do they actually sit down with the customer and say this build will cost you $80,000 or whatever. If I were to have 1 of these done I'd be fine with $80K but I'd want to know that up front. And I hate hearing that "if you have to ask you cant afford it" because like I said I'd be ok with $80K just not $200k therefore I'd ask up front. Im wondering if a lot of these builds get abandoned because the people who start them have no real expection of what it will cost. I guess also I don't know the life expectancy of these vehicles either. Someone commented as much as a cummins ram. Well living in the midwest I see a lot of rams that are only a year or two old and they are rust buckets. I kniw that the cummins will go for awhile but everything else will fall apart. I know the Toyota deisel engines will run for ever but how does the rest of it hold up. I'm 42 and if I bought a ram the engine might take me to retirement but the rest of the truck would be junk. How would the Toyota do? I guess my last question would be can this conversion be done with a double cab? Because if I bought a ram it would be a double cab. Or i guess 1 more question could it be done with a 76 onto 80 series frame?
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I sit down with all my clients and go over every painful detail of these builds like we do with any of the other ones. You need to know what you're getting yourself into and it's my job to provide that....whether you decide to go with my shop, another shop or no shop. I don't want an unhappy client and I certainly don't want stress in my life from mismanaged projects. When we talk or meet, I'm assessing you....are you getting into something that might be over your head? Will your expectations be far too challenging for what my shop can provide(not likely in our case)? Does it make sense to start somewhere else(maybe a light restoration on an already existing truck)? Is your time frame going to work with ours?

Not many quality shops are going to throw a number out on a public forum of what these builds cost. If you're interested, you'll do your research and compile the information you need to make a solid decision. Maybe a phone call or an email to get the ball rolling. You'll find that the prices will range all over....which makes it tough to really know a good cost. That's why chatting is really important I think. You'll know right away if it's where you want to go.

I think you could put any longer 70 series body(75, 76, 77, 78,79) on an 80....the shorty ones might be tough.
 
80seriesnut said:
I guess some of you people know better then I do, but if someone goes to a shop that does these conversions do they actually sit down with the customer and say this build will cost you $80,000 or whatever. If I were to have 1 of these done I'd be fine with $80K but I'd want to know that up front. And I hate hearing that "if you have to ask you cant afford it" because like I said I'd be ok with $80K just not $200k therefore I'd ask up front. Im wondering if a lot of these builds get abandoned because the people who start them have no real expection of what it will cost. I guess also I don't know the life expectancy of these vehicles either. Someone commented as much as a cummins ram. Well living in the midwest I see a lot of rams that are only a year or two old and they are rust buckets. I kniw that the cummins will go for awhile but everything else will fall apart. I know the Toyota deisel engines will run for ever but how does the rest of it hold up. I'm 42 and if I bought a ram the engine might take me to retirement but the rest of the truck would be junk. How would the Toyota do? I guess my last question would be can this conversion be done with a double cab? Because if I bought a ram it would be a double cab. Or i guess 1 more question could it be done with a 76 onto 80 series frame?
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I'm guessing here; The completed cost will be north of $100K or very very close. I have found that "while I'm at it" takes a firm grip on these projects and the sticker can easily go up 30-40%.
 
I appreciate the responses. I didnt want to step on any toes its just that I ask a lot of questions. Especially when it comes to spending money. I love the work you did on this build and I could see myself getting into one of these builds. I'd rather go down the 76 path though. I already have the 96 80 series.
 
80seriesnut said:
I appreciate the responses. I didnt want to step on any toes its just that I ask a lot of questions. Especially when it comes to spending money. I love the work you did on this build and I could see myself getting into one of these builds. I'd rather go down the 76 path though. I already have the 96 80 series.
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Asking questions is super important when taking on something like this build.....absolutely have to do your due diligence. You'll be glad you did.

76 would be cool.....not as sure that body would be as easy to find though as the 79s....they seem to be rather plentiful these days.
 
I would have thought 80K would be a “break even” price for a 79 Series build.
 
@WarDamnEagle so much want. IF I don't go insane on the first 79 single cab build, or broke, I want to do a double cab pickup or a 76. I have been stockpiling extra parts juuuust in case.
 
bottombracket said:
@WarDamnEagle so much want. IF I don't go insane on the first 79 single cab build, or broke, I want to do a double cab pickup or a 76. I have been stockpiling extra parts juuuust in case.
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Finish one and they get easier.....then you can build a whole fleet :)
 
80seriesnut said:
I appreciate the responses. I didnt want to step on any toes its just that I ask a lot of questions. Especially when it comes to spending money. I love the work you did on this build and I could see myself getting into one of these builds. I'd rather go down the 76 path though. I already have the 96 80 series.
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Maltec in Germany has built at least one of those. That one is on an HDJ80 chassis.

Maltec Leichtbautechnologie | Toyota

www.maltec.org www.maltec.org
 
Got around to swapping out the old 80 series brake booster. Felt the pedal was engaging a little too low in this truck. 24 year old booster has probably seen the best years of its life. Found the OEM manufacturer of it....popped it in...brakes are really tight and nice....pedal feel is much improved. Should have done it a while back.

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Onur said:
Seiken isn’t OEM.

AISIN/ADVICS are OEM factory. I have seen Bosch service replacement from Toyota as well.
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Wonder why I thought it was OEM. Maybe the booster had been replaced on the donor truck? They're clearly the same parts...Bendix Licensed I think they say. Interesting. Well it works better :)

Thanks for the correction 👍
 
c2dfj45 said:
Wonder why I thought it was OEM. Maybe the booster had been replaced on the donor truck? They're clearly the same parts...Bendix Licensed I think they say. Interesting. Well it works better :)

Thanks for the correction 👍
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They all have to say Bendix licensed because of the history of brake booster development and IP agreements. :)
 
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