Just ordered a pressure bleeder- from Motive, would speed bleeders be a waste too?

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nuclearlemon said:
i've got a mighty vac worked great a couple of times, now it doesnt' hold pressure. i bought a couple of sets of speed bleeders (two different brands at two different places and i don't know which are which now), put them on the 45 and the pig, some work, some don't...i'm going back to the pita, pump up the pedal, wedge a 2x4 in place and crawl underneath and bleed method.
I have never had a problem with Speed Bleeders from the original manufacturer. They are made here in the US and are high quality.
http://www.speedbleeder.com/main.htm
 
Do speedbleeders work for the clutch master/slave cylinders as well?

I may have to replace mine and that sounds like it'd be a good way to go.
 
Speed Bleeders at 12$ per or hells, just spend $5 and get this 1 bleeder tool from Pep Boys Pep - Part# W170C. I used it and did all my brakes by myself.... easy... 1 way valve on a hose

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I'll chime in! I did all 8 cylinders on my cruiser with a Mity-Vac with brake bleeder gizmo by myself in about 30 minutes. No speed record for sure but it does work very well.

Sometimes, like in my case, there is not a second person available to help you.
 
i prefer speed bleeders myself.its so much less hassle and less brake fluid.and if your on the trail thats when they really shine:D .hell its only 12 bucks or so
 
I bled all of my brakes in 10 minutes with my 8 year old son and half of the time was getting my son ready to help. The only cost was the brake fluid and I didn't have to do it again. No gizmos, no muss, no fuss. Bleeding brakes really is just childs play.
 
Pin_Head said:
I bled all of my brakes in 10 minutes with my 8 year old son and half of the time was getting my son ready to help.

so essentially, like me, you did it by yourself :)
 
Hey, I've got this thing and I'll give you all the low down on it after I bleed the 4 rear cylinders, the clutch and the front calipers. I'll try and time it!!
 
Hey, I've got this thing and I'll give you all the low down on it after I bleed the 4 rear cylinders, the clutch and the front calipers. I'll try and time it!!



so what did you figure out?
 
It is not only a waste of money, it is a waste of time. You can have the brakes bled using the tried and true two person method before you can get the speed bleeder out of the box and set up. The two person method always gets all the air out as long as the MC is kept topped up.

Agreed, and proven!

Out of the other gizmos and methods the two person bleed works the best!!
 
The unit works ok. works very well on my motorcycles. I think speedbleeders are the way to go. If I knew excactly how to gravity bleed, I'd try it some time
 
The unit works ok. works very well on my motorcycles. I think speedbleeders are the way to go. If I knew excactly how to gravity bleed, I'd try it some time

You guys are too high tech for me!!!;)

Take the lid off the MC and crack open the bleeder and let drip.
Be sure that resivour(sp) doesn't go dry. Let drip till fluid runs clear then move on. Start w/the bleeder furthest from the MC by way of plumbing. It does take time. I do it like this all the time.
Some times if the lines are dry you may have to do light pumping of the pedal to get the fluid moving, but only depress pedal 1/4" or so.

You can also put a hose on an open bleeder and the other end in a bottle w/some brake fluid in it, make sure the end of the hose is in the fluid and then depress the pedal. Air is pushed out and when the pedal is pressed and when it is released no air can enter the hose.
 
Just to get a little counterpoint in with all the negative replies, I've used the Motive pressure bleeder for a couple of years now and it's been great for me. No doubt Pin_Head's absolutely right about the 2-person method being best, but if you've got six cars and no friends, brake bleeding can be a real challenge. I just line them all up and bleed'em one after the other and never have to crawl out from underneath to check the resevoir. Yeah, maybe I end up wasting a dollar or two's worth of fluid over six cars, but I'm ok with that. By the way, I've never had trouble with the universal cap not holding a seal on the resevoir. Also, vacuum bleeders suck.

Bill
 
but if you've got six cars and no friends, brake bleeding can be a real challenge.
Bill

No friends? :frown:

That is something that a couple of cans of beer can fix. :D

If you are alone, you can just crack the bleeder and let it drip as described in the post above yours. It works, but it just takes a little longer.
 
No friends? :frown:

That is something that a couple of cans of beer can fix. :D

OK, so I exaggerated a little, I think my daughter likes me. She's helped me bleed the Ghia a couple of times before I got the pressure bleeder and I didn't even have to ply her with beer. :)

Honestly, though, I can line all six up in the yard on a saturday mroning and have'em all done in an hour. (Well, except for the alfa because it need the wheels bled in pairs.)

Bill
 
Agreed, and proven!

Out of the other gizmos and methods the two person bleed works the best!!

I'll stick with the speedbleeders at the corners and the slave cylinder. I don't need to arrange my schedule around someone else helping.
 
Bill,
A ghia and an Alfa? you've got good taste in machines my friend.
 
I'll chime in! I did all 8 cylinders on my cruiser with a Mity-Vac with brake bleeder gizmo by myself in about 30 minutes. No speed record for sure but it does work very well.

Sometimes, like in my case, there is not a second person available to help you.


X2 on the MityVac, but that's before I knew anything about the speed bleeders.

I believe the pressure systems are used primarily by shops that change out the fluid on the entire system (and get $$ for doing so), and for that it would make sense.

As to sequence, I thought you started at the farthest from the MC first. In my case that would be the left rear, then right rear, left front then right front last.

Ed
 
Bill,
A ghia and an Alfa? you've got good taste in machines my friend.

Thanks, man. They're all gerat fun in their own ways, despite all of them needing a good ground up restoration. Someone else on the list has an GTV, is it you? Nothing like the song of the twin cam once you break 90.

Bill
 
Not me,
I'm at several bikes truck and cars.
78 FJ-40, 87 4unner (DD), 94 ford probe gt(DD), 73 super beetle "sport bug" (very limited production only made one year) and currentlt under resto but on back burner since the 40 project.
1971 H-1 Kawaski Mach III (needs new rings now, but in good shape)
2003 Triumph Thunderbird Sport pretty much stock etc engine is fairly modded
2006 Ducati Paul Smart L.E. (only 2000 made) Cool bike, very fun!

So now you can see my MVS
 

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