In the meantime, throw your t-case lever into neutral.
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I got the kit from 12voltguy. I had a few misunderstandings about the kit (forgot about this thread) but he has been great to deal with and quick to respond to my email.
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Hey 12voltguy! Quick question: How long would the cable on your kill switch need to be in order to mount it inside of a Tuffy center console?
no idea, just measure up cable length you need and email me
Wow, talk about polishing a turd! I think I would have been more inclined to leave the doors unlocked . . . .
and the keys in the ignition . . .
engine running . . . .
and a nice little card from Hallmark saying "please steal me."
(Sorry - sometimes I just can't help myself)
Sorry for late reply
I just sold 2 of these kits so I took new pics
I usually use a bit thinner adhesive shrink tube but ran out so pic shows the triple heat shrink tube with built in adhesive, it melts out sealing the connection when heat shrunk
includes
8 foot of 4 ga cable
big switch with 2 keys
cable end boots
1 o-ring sealed on/off toggle switch, use to cut ignition or fuel pump relay power, I suggest you do more then just the theft kit cutting power to starter motor.
I like to use these big switches on the negative battery cable, this way it cuts all power, but to keep your computer happy and radio pre-sets + clock install a 5 amp fuse from battery negative to ground.
this keeps battery connected, and even if a thief has your keys, the small 5amp fuse will blow as soon as he trys to start the rig as the starter will draw 100-300amps...........theif will likely think this car/truck has problems, after all the dash had lights a second ago, or the door chime was just working
The idea is to at least do something to prevent thef, make the next guys car easier to steal then yours
The only problem with this kit is the size of the key. To be effective, one would have to carry the key around on their person whenever they're not in the truck, and it looks pretty big.
Now, if you started making a magnetically activated kit such as this one that was posted earlier, Browser Warning , then I think you would sell many more. I can tell you that I would definitely buy one!!
the best ever. love itSo the real answer is simple then... (10ish easy steps)
1) Install two solenoids on your starter.
2) Install a double throw switch in the line from your key that triggers the solenoid (the crank position)
3) install a 2nd battery (can be very small - motorcycle or something)
4) wire the 2nd solenoid to the 2nd battery
5) DONT charge the 2nd battery.
5a) Install a pushbutton switch on the dash that says "Battery Boost" which is really connected to a hidden camera aimed at the drivers position, as well as a camera mounted in the back of the truck aimed through the front window. These are connected to a DVR, so you can post the videos on YouTube later.
6) leave your transfer case shifter in neutral
7) Install electric locking hubs on your rear axle, powered through a normally open relay.
8) Install a normally closed fuel solenoid, or wire to the EDIC, or normally open relay for the oil pressure switch on a diesel
9)Install a greeting card (you know the ones that sing songs), with a pre-recorded message (with Nelson voice from the simpsons) "Haw Haw - you're not smart enough to steal this truck" this plays through a loudspeaker to the outside world.
Theif gets in (you left the switch in the "dead battery" position)
Theif bypasses the ignition, engine won't crank or cranks slowly and stops. Theif pushes the "battery boost" button but it doesn't work. This switch also plays the greeting card. (and you have a picture of them now) Theif grabs their jump pack but they are jumping a good battery so it won't do them any good, as they are still cranking off the dead battery.
Theif (A) gives up and goes on to an easier target. or (B) decides to bump start. Transfer case is in neutral so the wheel motion won't transfer to the flywheel. Theif figures out transfer case, attempts another bump start, but all hubs are unlocked so again it won't bump start. Greeting card plays again. Theif (C) gives up and goes on to an easier target because he has already been here for 10 minutes or (D) figures out your bypass switch and cranks the engine over, but the fuel solenoid or EDIC does not allow any fuel to get to the engine. Greeting card plays (or the oil pressure causes the engine to stall each time it starts) Greeting card plays(E) Theif gives up because it is taking too long and they are now afraid you will show up.
Theif comes back a while later with a pickup with a stinger on it - what can you do in 3 seconds?
10) wire plastic explosives to your U'bolts & steering linkage & Front tires. Rig the explosives to a pressure switch which is sensitive to the motion of the front shocks. When the stinger grabs the front wheels and lifts, the plastic explosives detonate, releasing the entire front axle to the stinger. The truck pulls away with only the front axle in the stinger. (slip joint on the driveshaft will seperate) Since the tires were blown as well, the front axle should fall out of the stinger just infront of the truck. Attach some bottle rockets and noisemaker fireworks to the leaf springs on your truck. When the plastic explosives go off it should light up the bottle rockets/noise makers (and the greeting card) Bottle rockets then fire off towards the vehicle attempting to get away from the scene of the crime. (attach greeting card to bottle rocket, inside greeting card write "HAW HAW FxxxER - I WIN!!).
Wouldn't that be worth the time it would take to replace a few U-bolts, steering links and tires? (you could probably sell the video!)
Alternatively, you could leave very simple instructions on how to start your vehicle (with none of the above installed). Don't lock your doors. Install a large inverter (3kW or so), switched on/off through a seperate hidden switch of your choice. The inverter takes your batteries 12V to 240VAC. Run some foil tape in two sections on the back side of your steering wheel. (left side and right side) Run one half of each side of the 240V output to each side of your steering wheel, and dont EVER, EVER, EVER forget about it yourslef. 240V from hand to hand will stop your heart, possibly explode it, and give you some NASTY burns.
no idea, just measure up cable length you need and email me
Did he ever give you length? I'm interested also, but with a switch that has a cover.
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The key is my big hesitation in getting this switch- I would prefer a switch that has multiple positions or is tied to another hidden switch. I just dont want to have to have a seperate key chain just for the red key.
Re: Diesel Options....
I'm no expert, but after burning a few starter relay fuses on my 3B, it seems like the starter relay is a good place to stick a kill switch. A dedicated thief might unbolt the relay to start the engine directly, but, c'mon man.
Also, 3B's have two extra security features built in: you can hear the thief starting them and you can run them down once they take off.
Cheers,
prat
I'm no expert, but after burning a few starter relay fuses on my 3B, it seems like the starter relay is a good place to stick a kill switch. A dedicated thief might unbolt the relay to start the engine directly, but, c'mon man.
Also, 3B's have two extra security features built in: you can hear the thief starting them and you can run them down once they take off.
Cheers,
prat
Bumping because curiosity reared up...is it possible to use the radio as a kill switch (in addition to a second one)? Radio has to be on and the other one has to be in the right position? Either OEM radio or aftermarket. Even better if the radio is in a lockable console too.
I have a way of using the radios power ant or amp lead as a trigger to a stand alone starter kill.
email me for free anti theft wire sheet & some info
info@12voltguy.com
I don't post in public for a thief to see
GPS Tracker, Pit Bull, 9mm. In that order.
there are three type of car thieves:
1) joy ride. Any deterrent works.
2) opportunity thief who see's a truck full of good 4x4 s***. Probably will not spend the time to figure out why it won't start right up or go into drive. Most deterrents will send them along.
3) Actual knowledgeable cruiser owner themselves thief, or someone who have a shopping list of trucks to steal. They are not deterred by anything. and may even bring a tow truck or flat bed.
#3 is not likely at all.
Pull some fuses, put the transfer case in neutral. Even dream up a good kill switch. Anything that is tough and takes time will get the thief moving on quicker and they will leave your truck behind.
No one is moving an edic arm, or bringing their own fuses, or bypassing a switch. If they want it, it will get dragged up on a flat bed and gone in 30 seconds.
1) joy ride. Any deterrent works.
2) opportunity thief who see's a truck full of good 4x4 s***. Probably will not spend the time to figure out why it won't start right up or go into drive. Most deterrents will send them along.
3) Actual knowledgeable cruiser owner themselves thief, or someone who have a shopping list of trucks to steal. They are not deterred by anything. and may even bring a tow truck or flat bed.
#3 is not likely at all.
Pull some fuses, put the transfer case in neutral. Even dream up a good kill switch. Anything that is tough and takes time will get the thief moving on quicker and they will leave your truck behind.
No one is moving an edic arm, or bringing their own fuses, or bypassing a switch. If they want it, it will get dragged up on a flat bed and gone in 30 seconds.
10 Easy steps to Theift proof your vehicle.
So the real answer is simple then... (10ish easy steps)
1) Install two solenoids on your starter.
2) Install a double throw switch in the line from your key that triggers the solenoid (the crank position)
3) install a 2nd battery (can be very small - motorcycle or something)
4) wire the 2nd solenoid to the 2nd battery
5) DONT charge the 2nd battery.
5a) Install a pushbutton switch on the dash that says "Battery Boost" which is really connected to a hidden camera aimed at the drivers position, as well as a camera mounted in the back of the truck aimed through the front window. These are connected to a DVR, so you can post the videos on YouTube later.
6) leave your transfer case shifter in neutral
7) Install electric locking hubs on your rear axle, powered through a normally open relay.
8) Install a normally closed fuel solenoid, or wire to the EDIC, or normally open relay for the oil pressure switch on a diesel
9)Install a greeting card (you know the ones that sing songs), with a pre-recorded message (with Nelson voice from the simpsons) "Haw Haw - you're not smart enough to steal this truck" this plays through a loudspeaker to the outside world.
Theif gets in (you left the switch in the "dead battery" position)
Theif bypasses the ignition, engine won't crank or cranks slowly and stops. Theif pushes the "battery boost" button but it doesn't work. This switch also plays the greeting card. (and you have a picture of them now) Theif grabs their jump pack but they are jumping a good battery so it won't do them any good, as they are still cranking off the dead battery.
Theif (A) gives up and goes on to an easier target. or (B) decides to bump start. Transfer case is in neutral so the wheel motion won't transfer to the flywheel. Theif figures out transfer case, attempts another bump start, but all hubs are unlocked so again it won't bump start. Greeting card plays again. Theif (C) gives up and goes on to an easier target because he has already been here for 10 minutes or (D) figures out your bypass switch and cranks the engine over, but the fuel solenoid or EDIC does not allow any fuel to get to the engine. Greeting card plays (or the oil pressure causes the engine to stall each time it starts) Greeting card plays
Theif comes back a while later with a pickup with a stinger on it - what can you do in 3 seconds?
10) wire plastic explosives to your U'bolts & steering linkage & Front tires. Rig the explosives to a pressure switch which is sensitive to the motion of the front shocks. When the stinger grabs the front wheels and lifts, the plastic explosives detonate, releasing the entire front axle to the stinger. The truck pulls away with only the front axle in the stinger. (slip joint on the driveshaft will seperate) Since the tires were blown as well, the front axle should fall out of the stinger just infront of the truck. Attach some bottle rockets and noisemaker fireworks to the leaf springs on your truck. When the plastic explosives go off it should light up the bottle rockets/noise makers (and the greeting card) Bottle rockets then fire off towards the vehicle attempting to get away from the scene of the crime. (attach greeting card to bottle rocket, inside greeting card write "HAW HAW FxxxER - I WIN!!).
Wouldn't that be worth the time it would take to replace a few U-bolts, steering links and tires? (you could probably sell the video!)
Alternatively, you could leave very simple instructions on how to start your vehicle (with none of the above installed). Don't lock your doors. Install a large inverter (3kW or so), switched on/off through a seperate hidden switch of your choice. The inverter takes your batteries 12V to 240VAC. Run some foil tape in two sections on the back side of your steering wheel. (left side and right side) Run one half of each side of the 240V output to each side of your steering wheel, and dont EVER, EVER, EVER forget about it yourslef. 240V from hand to hand will stop your heart, possibly explode it, and give you some NASTY burns.
one of the most hilarious posts I’ve ever read after previously reading through all the other ideas..epic
My thoughts exactly - neutral T case with a kill switch known to you and only you seems to be best ... Insure your cars....
quick question - I’ve heard people mentioning being able to lock their gears in place or lock in a gear? Can someone expand on how that works .. because my dear is just someone putting it neutral and rolling on a flatbed. Literally happens everyday in SF. Thx
For the tow away scenario you need a gps tracker. They are not too expensive and pretty easy to install. Honestly if any cruiser owner on here has a decent amount of mods one should really have a GPS tracker as one of those mods.
a cheap cell phone hidden in the car wired to a permanent power source works as a tracker too.
