Front Brake Caliper Replacement - Napa Eclipse NLA? Options?
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NorCalFJ100
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That's a good price, but you'd think they would be less considering there is less material compared to the fronts!!! Haha.
And since, I believe, the rears are common to other Toyotas, while the fronts are fairly unique.
Jason
Appeared to be no stock at Norwalk on rear calipers, but Partsouq has them ($175 and change each). Also needed the mounts after both bolts broke off in the one I'm working on trying to remove the caliper. I assume the more puddly curb side will be the same or worse. Rotor measured good, so a small bit of sunshine. So long as DHL is kicking it, I may have it fixed soon...I am, after all, working on the rear axle, where stuff hidden under rust lies in wait for the unsuspecting. 
NorCalFJ100
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Let the games begin! Haha.
Does anyone recognize the markings on these calipers? Just curious if they match the previous generation (60060) markings.
Does anyone recognize the markings on these calipers? Just curious if they match the previous generation (60060) markings.
Can't help with your question, but that's a nice looking undercarriage. Very clean.
NorCalFJ100
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Thanks Flint! I'm all about clean surfaces! Haha.
All questions have been answered in the thread I posted previously, including pictures, part numbers, etc.
FWIW, I have 2 full sets of calipers (OEM of course). I keep 1 set that has been cleaned, painted, and rebuilt with OEM parts and fully loaded with new pads, vacuum sealed and sitting on a shelf in my garage. New banjo bolts and crush washers are in my swap kit.
When I do the swap, it forces me to bleed the brake fluid, which should be water clear and changed yearly. It is slightly more involved than simply changing pads, but my brakes can lock up my 35s and activate ABS on dry pavement, so there's that.
NorCalFJ100
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You do this for the front and rear? Link to that thread?
I am going to save my original calipers, clean them up and rebuild them eventually. These brand new OEMs should last a good while.
Yes. All 4 corners. OEM rebuild kits are inexpensive and the other parts like slide pins and anti squeal shims and pad holders for the rear are only a few dollars, so it makes sense to me to go all the way with new parts. Even the bleeder valves are cheap.
It gives me the chance to examine the pistons and bores. I replaced 2 pistons on the original calipers that came on my 97 due to corrosion. When I got this truck, I went through every system and brought it back to spec. I wheel it pretty hard and take extended road trips with my wife, so there's no compromising.
The link I posted earlier in this thread was titled "NAPA Eclipse Calipers", so it's pretty easy to reference.
NAPA Eclipse Calipers
With all the recent brake talk, I thought it would be a good idea to order a set of replacement calipers. The NAPA Eclipse seemed to be the caliper of choice around here and they were significantly less expensive than OEM. Turns out, it's pretty obvious why. One of the pistons looks like Chinese...
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NorCalFJ100
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Yes. All 4 corners. OEM rebuild kits are inexpensive and the other parts like slide pins and anti squeal shims and pad holders for the rear are only a few dollars, so it makes sense to me to go all the way with new parts. Even the bleeder valves are cheap.
It gives me the chance to examine the pistons and bores. I replaced 2 pistons on the original calipers that came on my 97 due to corrosion. When I got this truck, I went through every system and brought it back to spec. I wheel it pretty hard and take extended road trips with my wife, so there's no compromising.
The link I posted earlier in this thread was titled "NAPA Eclipse Calipers", so it's pretty easy to reference.
NAPA Eclipse Calipers
With all the recent brake talk, I thought it would be a good idea to order a set of replacement calipers. The NAPA Eclipse seemed to be the caliper of choice around here and they were significantly less expensive than OEM. Turns out, it's pretty obvious why. One of the pistons looks like Chinese...
Oh yes you did post that and I forgot I already bookmarked your thread with part numbers. Well it will be good to tear into these original calipers and get them all rebuilt and ready for reuse in the future!! Thank you!
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All done! New calipers, rotors, pads, hoses and shim kit!!
Now look at the bizarre wear on my old pads...keep in mind these are from the PO. No idea where they're from, etc...but I did inspect them probably 5,000 miles ago. Still lots of life as you can see, but perhaps they got too hot?? The second picture you can see the cracking. I poked a screwdriver at the corner and that whole piece fell off.
Now look at the bizarre wear on my old pads...keep in mind these are from the PO. No idea where they're from, etc...but I did inspect them probably 5,000 miles ago. Still lots of life as you can see, but perhaps they got too hot?? The second picture you can see the cracking. I poked a screwdriver at the corner and that whole piece fell off.
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Those look to be 100 Pads.
If your calipers are a pile of Rust and Pistons are Rusted the Zinc Plates Rebuilds are the better option.
The Calipers were Originally by AM Brake, if I recall Correctly.
My 2 Previous Avalons have Bosch OEM Brake System and it has about 300K on it, but that a US Made Car. That being said, I've never had Failure from Akebono, AM Brake, Sumitomo, Advics or other Toyota Family Companies. Steer Clear of Chinese as you have no idea (not saying some are not good).
Your Nearly 100% safe with OEM New, 98% Safe with OEM Toyota Rebuilds and 90% Safe with Aftermarket. Let your wallet decide accordingly.
I always head right to Rockauto.com to see what they offer and compare prices. Their shipping is surprisingly reasonable.
I was a Brake Engineer from 2005-2008 (Harley Davidson) and there is quite a few critical things about calipers than need to be considered when rebuilding calipers.
NorCalFJ100
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Everything is all brand new OEM as of today!! Thankfully.
Just so happens I am doing the big brake upgrade for 3fe 80s and ordered Eclipse calipers. Here are pics. First 2 are right, last 2 are left. Look a bit rough.
If OEM are backordered indefinitely, seems like there's no other choice, no?
If OEM are backordered indefinitely, seems like there's no other choice, no?
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OEM for the win, just finished all 4x corners with zero regrets. Just my opinion but all the once solid aftermarket sources are severely tainted when it comes to quality. I miss the old days where there were so many choices.
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Only OEM remanufactured is on national backorder. Brand new OEM is readily available. Just redid my entire front setup for about $500. That's brand new calipers, rotors, pads and hoses and other odds n ends.
I'm going with OEM on the rear since that's the project for this weekend. Nobody has remans locally anyway and I'll have to order as it is. I replaced these about 3 years ago with some from Advanced Auto and the pistons appear to be seized now.
