Dirtgypsy goes SOA

[doug720]

Clint,

Somehow I've been missing your posts. Your swap is looking great! The way your doing wiring is going to be clean and tidy.

You have a lot more room to the drivers side frame than I did, I don't remember, did you make or mod the rear trans mount? Looks good.

It's nice to get to the point of wiring and plumbing, and to be done with the fitment and mounts!

Can't wait to see her finished.

Also you mentioned single track? PM what you ride, I'm going to be Ashland next month and may race the Funky Chicken too!

Looks great!

Doug

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Yeah, I just found out about Waytek the other day too. I paid way too much for my relays. I wish I found them 6 months ago . I was surprised how cheap their prices for the Carling stuff are.

What was the sound deadening stuff you used?

Don

Hi Don,

Sorry about that. It's just the stuff from lowes. My brother-in-law has it in his 60 with great results. I am not sure why people complain about this stuff but mine has absolutely no odd smell to it even when the cab was close to 90 degrees. In his 60 he has been in 110 plus weather with no breakdown or smell either. It just plain works and is cheap. I have maybe $60 into what you see and still have 1 roll left to do the doors and side panels.

I am also picking up this stuff: Acoustical Foam with Black Perforated Vinyl Facing | Sound Technology

It's a local company and the lady I talked with seemed pretty knowlegable and recomended this. They also have some aluminized stuff that I am going to get a sample of to compare to Mikes for my hood liner.

Clint

 

[longbow]

Cool! I am planning on doing the same setup for mine and was hoping that was what you used. I actually hadn't heard anything negative about the stuff from Lowes, but I guess I didn't search that hard.

I was going to use the accoustic foam from Mcmaster-Carr, but your company's prices are better. Let me know how it works out when you get it.

Thanks,

Don

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Clint,

Somehow I've been missing your posts. Your swap is looking great! The way your doing wiring is going to be clean and tidy.

You have a lot more room to the drivers side frame than I did, I don't remember, did you make or mod the rear trans mount? Looks good.

It's nice to get to the point of wiring and plumbing, and to be done with the fitment and mounts!

Can't wait to see her finished.

Also you mentioned single track? PM what you ride, I'm going to be Ashland next month and may race the Funky Chicken too!

Looks great!

Doug

Hi Doug,

Glad you found my thread. Between you, Longbow, and dohcdelsol I wouldn't have even tackled it. I must say that I also wouldn't be this far along without the help of Mike!

I ride what ever, when ever I can on a Turner 5 spot. Love the bike but Oregon sucks right now for riding except in Bend. If you make it to Ashland hit me up I would love to run the super D!

I basically centered the whole motor by just taking the tranny mount and flattening it out. The 85-87 trucks have a clocked bell housing and I made a flat crossmember that also sucked the trans/ transfer up about 2 inches into the body. If you need pics let me know!

I got a few updates you all might like to see:

First up is the I/V bag. This is the stock Isuzu unit that is the electronic control for start/ stop. I really like the idea of being able to start and stop the truck without pulling cables manually. My wife likes the idea even more. Through some trial and error (read burnt wire harness) I was able to build a 5 pin relay that controls the unit off of the coil wire. (thank you ASTR you rock!)

This sits nicely under the passenger side battery tray.

Next up is Mikes handy work on the pyrometer. An absolute must on turbo'd diesel engines when tweaking for boost and peformance. My unit was a hand me down from my brother-in-laws truck that was origially held on by a hose clamp. Not the most ideal set up. Mike took a look at it and figured out that we could drill out a 1/4 compression fitting with pipe thread on exhaust side and make it work:

threading wires:

complete unit:

After Mike left I went to town on the exhaust. I new I had to remount the turbo to get it to clear the brake booster and other items. I made a few 15 degree cuts and ended up with this:

We decided to run with it and it turned out pretty good. I really have to thank Mike as he took my vision and made it a reality and it really looks sweet. I have to say that between the motor mounts, cross member fab and this I am just very pleased with the way things are turning out:

This is how the turbo is going to be mounted:

I worked through a mirad of electrical items and finally had everything wired. Dual ARB's, dual batteries, glow relay, starting system, oil pressure, charge indicator, dummy charge light, fuel cut solenoid etc etc etc... I really thought that diesel's had less wiring:

The engine bay is once again a complete mess but it's funcional with exception of the alt doesn't seem to be charging:

It was a mad dash to get everything to this point. I really wanted it started this week and,










wait for it












wait for it











wait for it










It's alive, it's alive!!!!!!

4bd1t fj60 swap

Home stretch here we come......

we also did some basic fitting of the intercooler and the radiator. What we really did was have some water and admire what 3k $$ and a months worth of work gets ya

Interior and more to come.

 

[boots4]

....next important feature is that it shut down when the key was turned off.

It's great to see that thing running. It was a successful day! Now it will be fun to get that turbo hooked up and hear it spool.

 

[doug720]

Clint,

Outstanding! Sounds great.

I found these engines like a little higher idle rpm's than stock. Raise it a little and smooth down a lot.

If you run into issues with the "IV" bag let me know, I have 2 of them I'm not using. One 2 cable and a 1 cable(4BD1).

Again looks and sounds good!

Doug

 

[longbow]

Clint,

That sounds AWESOME! Glad to see you finally lit the fires! It looks to be running perfectly.

I second what Doug said. I couldn't stand the vibrations at 650 rpm, I thought it was going to shake my mirrors off! I am running mine at about 825 rpm at idle and it is really smooth.

The turbo mount looks great as well. Way more clearance on the booster than mine is. Great job, you and Mike are doing some fine work there!

Keep it up, I want to see a video of the first drive here soon!

Enjoy,

Don

 

[MANUCHAO]

Gotta love the sound of a diesel......
Makes me want to do a conversion all over again...!!!

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Clint,

Outstanding! Sounds great.

I found these engines like a little higher idle rpm's than stock. Raise it a little and smooth down a lot.

If you run into issues with the "IV" bag let me know, I have 2 of them I'm not using. One 2 cable and a 1 cable(4BD1).

Again looks and sounds good!

Doug

Thanks for the compliment. Mike showed me how to adjust the idle and pedal throw. We adjusted by ear for now and it smoothed out quite a bit. I also need to go back and tighten the motor mounts as they were still loose.

Clint,

That sounds AWESOME! Glad to see you finally lit the fires! It looks to be running perfectly.

I second what Doug said. I couldn't stand the vibrations at 650 rpm, I thought it was going to shake my mirrors off! I am running mine at about 825 rpm at idle and it is really smooth.

The turbo mount looks great as well. Way more clearance on the booster than mine is. Great job, you and Mike are doing some fine work there!

Keep it up, I want to see a video of the first drive here soon!

Enjoy,

Don

Thanks Don I really appreciate it. The weather is horrible right now. Yesterday 70 and sunny, today 50 and rainy. I may get out and work on the interior some. I hope that by memorial day it will be on the road!

Gotta love the sound of a diesel......
Makes me want to do a conversion all over again...!!!

It's just money right? We all have plenty of it flowing like water.

Thanks all!

Clint

 

[Tapage]

what a happy and proud moment Clint .. congrats !

 

[klinetime574]

Awesome! Can't wait to hear that turbo!

 

[cruiser guy]

awe! dude your gonna have your motor stolen by this guy! ////> <////

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Hope your Memorial day weekend is going well! I always seem to have a theme going. "Tear my truck down to where it's no where near driveable, then hastily put it back together before a major run." 2 years ago it was SOA, lockers etc in May just before Rubithon! This year is a 5 day trek in the Oregon back country as a trail leader! Yeah I know...

Anyways I have been totally sick this week. Major head cold, sinus infection blah blah blah. The weather has not been kind at all.

Anyways enough about me. I made some really good progress today with El Tractor. Margaret has a new name. After first fire up my wife says: "it's loud and sounds like a tractor".

Sweet. Got to the interior today and a few other tid bits. This is the material I picked up from Barrier Corp here in Oregon. Comes in a nice big roll and weighed about 20 plus pounds for 11 feet by 54" wide. Its 1/2" thick.

Close up of perforated vinyl coating. Very tough! I could pull, push and tug on it without it tearing. It worked best to cut with heavy duty scissors:

Very cool product! I also added a heat/ sound layer of thermotec to the tranny hump. It's fiber with foil on both sides for protection. It's actually designed for under the hood but I am trying something different there:

I had some left over and did the kick panels:

This is what the sound barriar looks like prior to carpet. I used a light spray adhesive to coat the floor and some duct tape to hold the sides in place to put the carpet in:

I also did some routing of the cooloing lines but ran out of hose. I will pick some up tomorrow and take some more pics.




BTW, It's caturday and Cruiser Kitty is hiding in your tents. Have a great Memorial Day Weekend and thank you to all of you who are serving or have served!!

Clint

 

[cruiser guy]

I guess I didnt catch it. are you using the stock tranny?

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Nope I am running an H55F. One of the best mods I have done.

Clint

 

[Heckraiser]

Sorry if this isn't the right place, but it seems the right people are paying attention:

How tall is the 4bd from oil pan to valve cover? Is it tall enough to require SOA (as seems to be the case for a 4bt)? Or could you get away with a standard 2.5" OME setup?

Great work on the 60, glad to see it's running!

 

[Dirtgypsy]

Sorry if this isn't the right place, but it seems the right people are paying attention:

How tall is the 4bd from oil pan to valve cover? Is it tall enough to require SOA (as seems to be the case for a 4bt)? Or could you get away with a standard 2.5" OME setup?

Great work on the 60, glad to see it's running!

I can get a measurment for you but don't know off the top of my head. I do know it is shorter than the 4BT. I also do know that it can be done with a 4BD1 oil pan without much lift. The 4BD2 pan wont clear. Also you have to run a remote oil filter on these without SOA as the front driveline hits the oil filters.

If you want measurements let me know I can try to get some this weekend.

Thanks,

Clint

 

[doug720]

Small Hi-Jack...Sorry Clint.

Here is a shot of my 60 with a 4BD2 and 2.5 - 3" OME. I'm loolking for the overall height, but it does work without a springover. The oil pan is stepped directly over the front diff., which helps alot.

Doug

 

[longbow]

Hi Clint,

Here is a factory drawing showing the measurements of the 4BD1. It is in milimeters but the 751mm top to bottom is 29.56"

I think this is without the turbo piping though so I would add about 4 to 5 inches for that on top.

Hope this helps,

Don

 

[twoturtlesracing]

WOW!

I came across this thread looking at SOA threads and now, 2+ hours later have found myself at the end of current progress. WOW! OH WOW! Amazing work you have done and great fab skills! I especially like the turbo plumbing! I will now be getting over here from the 40 section to watch the rest of this build on a regular basis! If a guy were going to have a 60, this is what it should be built like!

Edit: Answered my own question. The NPR is the model of Isuzu trucks that had 4bd's in them Here's a good link to a thread that I got my info from. isuzu 4BD1T swap?!

Also, really like the color scheme on the motor. Looks very 'yota-ish. (22RE- at least an LC Engineering one)