OEM no problems 31 years .ARB no problems 12 years.
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OEM no problems 31 years .ARB no problems 12 years.
ARB works….OEM no problems 31 years .
I have seen more then My share of ARB locker issues, maybe some of you have had better luck with them then others.ARB works….
I wheel with the 4runner all the time and there both very capable Rigs. One rig or the other has not been able to clearly out do the other.Comparing your 80 to the 4Runner, besides weight difference, what would you say advantages and disadvantages be? Like leaf vs coil - just curious. Excellent pics!
Fair enough question. and I think you know the answer NO, but the 80 has a very stout attached hard top. Still I would like to have some kind of a role bar.@Broski, do you have a roll bar in your truck ?
Sorry Broski, not my thread, but I thought I would chime in I used to wheel an '84 mini-truck long bed (same as 4runner, just a few inches longer wheelbase). I think the mini truck is the overall more competent package, mainly due to smaller size. You can pick your line more carefully, whereas with the 80 you're often forced to take the only line where the truck will fit, regardless of whether there might be a boulder or stump in the way. With the mini truck, you might be able to drive around that stump. Coils certainly ride better than leafs, are a little more predictable and link suspension generally doesn't hang down in harm's way as much as leafs. However leafs can be selected/tuned to give balanced flex front and rear. All 80's with the stock radius arm suspension flex more in the rear and less in the front. The mini-truck also gives you the option to run dual transfer cases and/or 4.7 low range gears (potentially in both cases, although that would be nuts). 80 can't come remotely close to that kind of crawl ratio, but I personally never needed gearing that deep. Big advantage of the 80 is that it can wheel and eat up miles on the highway. The mini trucks have no power and just can't keep up on a modern highway. Also if you have a carbed version, they will stall out if you point them up a very steep climb. Challenging and a bit dangerous, lol.Comparing your 80 to the 4Runner, besides weight difference, what would you say advantages and disadvantages be? Like leaf vs coil - just curious. Excellent pics!
All true.Sorry Broski, not my thread, but I thought I would chime in I used to wheel an '84 mini-truck long bed (same as 4runner, just a few inches longer wheelbase). I think the mini truck is the overall more competent package, mainly due to smaller size. You can pick your line more carefully, whereas with the 80 you're often forced to take the only line where the truck will fit, regardless of whether there might be a boulder or stump in the way. With the mini truck, you might be able to drive around that stump. Coils certainly ride better than leafs, are a little more predictable and link suspension generally doesn't hang down in harm's way as much as leafs. However leafs can be selected/tuned to give balanced flex front and rear. All 80's with the stock radius arm suspension flex more in the rear and less in the front. The mini-truck also gives you the option to run dual transfer cases and/or 4.7 low range gears (potentially in both cases, although that would be nuts). 80 can't come remotely close to that kind of crawl ratio, but I personally never needed gearing that deep. Big advantage of the 80 is that it can wheel and eat up miles on the highway. The mini trucks have no power and just can't keep up on a modern highway. Also if you have a carbed version, they will stall out if you point them up a very steep climb. Challenging and a bit dangerous, lol.
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I noticed it was just the 2 rigs on this run. I wheeled an ‘81 mini for a few yrs (with my 80) and know 1st hand how capable and durable they are. But figured you 2 would have run sections where you chose different lines and it would make for awesome conversations about it around the campfire...lol. I’ve had my ‘94 for 24 yrs now and it’s like I can feel every bump, step up and twist that it makes on trails and obstacles. I preferred the mini for its agility, but there’s just something awesome with how a moderately built “fat A$$ed” 80 series can handle itself through knarly terrain. Maybe it’s just my age or full time 4wd or the auto tranny...I wheel with the 4runner all the time and there both very capable Rigs. One rig or the other has not been able to clearly out do the other.
Disadvantages of the 80 are its fat A$$ it's hard to fit in tight places. It's longer wheel base seem to be a advantage, and the coil suspension eliminate the wheel hop that leaf springs get.
I have got the weight of the 80 way down and it does not seem to be a factor. The auto trans also seen to work well rock crawling.
In the end a lot of it just comes down to personal preference
I would also add that I put a lot into making my 80 work well as a rock crawler and a moderately built 4runner would walk all over a moderately built 80 JMHO
It's really just the camera angle I'm really on a rock behind the treeLooks like a blast!!!!
I thought it was called rock crawling not tree crawling. That video is going to make some environmentalist nut job so mad lmao
Having just been through that obstacle, no you're not. But everyone else drives on it tooIt's really just the camera angle I'm really on a rock behind the tree
Maybe just aHaving just been through that obstacle, no you're not. But everyone else drives on it too