Anyone go from a 200 back to a 100? (1 Viewer)

[LCT]

Over the last decade, I’ve owned four 100 series and one 200 series. Agree with all the comments above. 200 series is definitely better than the 100 in every way possible but there’s something about the 100 series that makes me keep coming back to it.
I currently own a 100 series.

 

[shane431]

I have a 99 LX470 and a 2020 Sequoia 4x4. I want a 200 series but it's very hard to justify as I feel like I currently have the best of both worlds. I'd love to upgrade the LX470 to a 200 mainly for the motor and in my opinion less overall maintenance. I'd consider getting rid of the Sequoia but it's so nice having all of the room inside.

I think what I'm going to do as a compromise is to trade in my wife's Rav4 for a LC250!

 

[w4lks0ftly]

Sienna awd

Seriously. We use a Sienna AWD as a fleet vehicle for carrying students around during the winter here in Leadville, including lots of gravel roads, steep snow, and trailhead access. With winter tires the thing is damn near unstoppable. Appreciably better than my 100 with AVS on washboard/gravel potholes at speed. It won't go up Mosquito or Hagerman Pass, but unless your roads feature serious clearance obstacles, it's the absolute best, *least attractive* adventure vehicle ever. I dearly hope I never own one.

 

[NE Snowman]

Early 100 series vs any of the 200's is significant. A dog is faster uphill than a pre VVTi 2UZ

I don’t think it’s a slouch by any means, I’ve had slower. Yeah vs a 5.7 it’s lousy, my 6.0 Chevy savanna feels like a rocket ship too. We shall see how it holds up though, 86k nothing crazy yet.

The 2UZ is way smother and has over twice the miles and 4 times the years.

Seriously. We use a Sienna AWD as a fleet vehicle for carrying students around during the winter here in Leadville, including lots of gravel roads, steep snow, and trailhead access. With winter tires the thing is damn near unstoppable. Appreciably better than my 100 with AVS on washboard/gravel potholes at speed. It won't go up Mosquito or Hagerman Pass, but unless your roads feature serious clearance obstacles, it's the absolute best, *least attractive* adventure vehicle ever. I dearly hope I never own one.

I was in NH during a NorEaster and saw one out in a grocery store parking lot, was very impressed.

 

[jLB]

I dearly hope I never own one.

Afraid of having to pick out a luxury purse?

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Seriously. We use a Sienna AWD as a fleet vehicle for carrying students around during the winter here in Leadville, including lots of gravel roads, steep snow, and trailhead access. With winter tires the thing is damn near unstoppable. Appreciably better than my 100 with AVS on washboard/gravel potholes at speed. It won't go up Mosquito or Hagerman Pass, but unless your roads feature serious clearance obstacles, it's the absolute best, *least attractive* adventure vehicle ever. I dearly hope I never own one.

This says more about the 100 series than it does about the sienna...

 

[Somebodyelse5]

Afraid of having to pick out a luxury purse?

No he's afraid he'll have to get a ride on lawn mower and make lawn maintenance his personality like @Cactusman

 

[FxFormat]

I bought my 200 for not much more that what i sold my 06 LX for. There are pros and cons to both but at the end of the day they're both nice vehicle and can't go wrong with either one.

100 looks better and drives better as in it's smaller and more nimble. Steering feel more direct and attached, silky smooth 4.7.

200 is faster and quieter and gets better gas mileage, but drives like a boat, floaty and big, steering feels numb and over assisted.

Both are reliable, but the 200 is easier to service, mainly front pads and rotors and bearings are much easier to do than the 100 series. Timing chain doesn't need to be replaced every 90K miles.

The 200 doesn't have the driveline clunk that the 100 have, i don't care what you do to your 100, you're gonna have a clunk, it's just a matter of how bad. just how the front axle and hub flange is designed in the 100.

I don't think i'll sell my 200 just to get back to a 100 but i'm actively looking for a clean 06-07 rust free that i want to keep and pass on to my kids and have them feel the pain of paying for gas

 

[MongooseGA]

I think what I'm going to do as a compromise is to trade in my wife's Rav4 for a LC250!

So a lateral move?

 

[jLB]

No he's afraid he'll have to get a ride on lawn mower and make lawn maintenance his personality like @Cactusman
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Does a tractor with a “mowing deck”= “a ride on lawn mower”?

 

[shane431]

So a lateral move?

You really hate the LC 250!

 

[MongooseGA]

You really hate the LC 250!

Low hanging fruit. 250 owners are gonna get it worse than GX owners.

 

[William839]

Besides comfort and small things , what about in terms of reliability, will a 2000-2007 100 series be a better choice vs a 2008-2012 200 , for wheeling, road trips etc.. how much harder is the 200 to work on? My only experience with the 5.7 is a tundra that had ENDLESS electrical issue that still haven’t been figured out to this day .. too many sensors and electronics it seems like ..

 

[BnvS]

I've been eyeing 200s, but only because the lack of power in the 100 is getting pretty old, and since there isn't a new Cruiser worth having coming out here. Imo the interior materials are better in the 100 with a lot less hard plastic.

My suspicion is that it'll be very difficult to be OK driving a 4.7 again after spending much time with the 5.7. I'm pretty sure I would hate it.

So although its not an apple to apple comparison. I have a 4.7 LC and a 5.7 Tundra. IMHO each has their own pros and cons. I would pick the 5.7 but dang its a gas guzzler...very thirsty engine.. but the power is beautiful drug...

 

[BnvS]

Besides comfort and small things , what about in terms of reliability, will a 2000-2007 100 series be a better choice vs a 2008-2012 200 , for wheeling, road trips etc.. how much harder is the 200 to work on? My only experience with the 5.7 is a tundra that had ENDLESS electrical issue that still haven’t been figured out to this day .. too many sensors and electronics it seems like ..

aah I dont know what major electronics issues you are talking about on the 5.7? It may have more ECU's for each component eg. fuel ecu, that runs it but I am not sure they are major issues that have not already been solved.

 

[BnvS]

You need a van. I have 80, 100, 200 and a Sienna van. And If I need room and also easier access ( auto sliding door and low ground clearance ) for kids, I will take the Sienna over my LCs all day. The room in the Sienna is incredible! 100 and 200 3rd row about the same.

I totally agree...in terms of comfort and travel nothing beats a mini van. Similarly to hauling equipment...then nothing beats a Truck...

 

[aedgington]

The 200 doesn't have the driveline clunk that the 100 have, i don't care what you do to your 100, you're gonna have a clunk, it's just a matter of how bad. just how the front axle and hub flange is designed in the 100.

Not true. I still had a mild clunk after doing the flanges and CVs but it disappeared entirely after doing the mounts and shocks as well.

+1 for really missing the crotch AC and window vents.

That being said, I wouldn't go back. It's the seats of the 200 LX. 100x more comfortable, especially with the thigh extension. The extra power is nice, but the terrible seats in the 100 was something I learned to live with... and wouldn't want to learn again. I know it's fashionable to consider the LC 200 better than the LX, but, damn, the interior of the LX is 1000x better and makes it a whole different vehicle.

I also have a little parts availability anxiety with the 100s that would keep me from going back.

 

[GTV]

5.7 swap?

 

[William839]

aah I dont know what major electronics issues you are talking about on the 5.7? It may have more ECU's for each component eg. fuel ecu, that runs it but I am not sure they are major issues that have not already been solved.

not sure either … multiple people have looked at it including Toyota and no one knew the issue .. luckily it wasn’t mine . However everything “computer related “ has been replaced, the issue began as the truck randomly sputtering/bucking for 1-2 seconds with zero codes or CEL , then it began to die in reverse and N .. just small random issues that no one could figure out and still haven’t … the 4.7 seems more user friendly for field fixes and reliability. Does everyone else agree or are there different opinions ?

 

[shane431]

not sure either … multiple people have looked at it including Toyota and no one knew the issue .. luckily it wasn’t mine . However everything “computer related “ has been replaced, the issue began as the truck randomly sputtering/bucking for 1-2 seconds with zero codes or CEL , then it began to die in reverse and N .. just small random issues that no one could figure out and still haven’t … the 4.7 seems more user friendly for field fixes and reliability. Does everyone else agree or are there different opinions ?

I'm on my 2nd 5.7. My first was a 2014 Tundra that I put 185,000 not one issue other than regular maintenance. I'm on my 2nd 5.7, 2020 Sequoia with 60K still no issues. My 4.7 has 287K and I didn't get it until it had 260K. In that time I've had about 6K in maintenance (timing belt, water pump, fan motor bracket, belt tensioner pulley, A/C leak, CV boot replacement, etc.....). Now some of that is the nature of the beast and are just maintenance related items but overall I fell like the 5.7 has been more maintenance friendly as they've needed less maintenance. It's not apples to apples but I'm in the opinion that the 5.7 is a better platform.