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and the last
amazing what can be done with rusted junk
Good work you are a rust kicking SOB!!! Is all the rust normal for where you live and what the heck is it caused from??? De-icer used for winter maintenance on the highways maybe??? Do you live in a snow zone??? Anyways glad you are back on the 40! I did read a post where someone said that brakefluid didnt eat their POR/RB i dont remember which. Just think it could be worse i spent the last week working on that little 4 wheeler you see in some of my posts.... And my XJ (jeep cherokee) BEES BEES BEES from not driving it for a few months just so i can think about fixing it!!!
Great work so far! Thought I might throw out a suggestion....I am rebuilding a 79 that came from the northeast and looking at your frame gave me flashbacks. Have you thought about using line-x, rhino, etc. to protect your frame? Those products will help hide the pitting and much easier to repair should damage occur. I am boxing sections of my frame to make sure the strength is there.
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yea rust is pretty common up here.. esp on older vehicles - no idea what causes it though - i'm sure not having a garage plays into it somewhat - i think where i am they use salt here when they plow which definitely speeds up the rust process, either that or sand which has somewhat the same effect
haha yea i guess it can always be worse
I'm not sure if I made it clear earlier but the frame I am going to use now doesn't have bad pitting like the frame i was originally going to use so that is a really good idea and i would probably do it if i was using that other frame - this frame I am powdercoating and I finally drilled out all of the bolts and stuff and will be bringing it by the powder coater tomorrow.
Urea...(ammonium nitrate)..... from what I've been told...... bad s*** on metal....
Other wise known in the liquid form as magnesium chloride! I have possibly put some down on the roads in my day and it is claimed to be hardly corrosive but sure that is why the back of the 5 yarder looks like your old frame and all the other 5 yarders looked brand new!!
BUT LOOK ON THE BRIGHT SIDE IT'S FISH FRIENDLY 
Keep moving ahead it all looks great and we had a (I think 125 lincoln 110v welder) at work and it rocked for what it was..... Glad you like yours
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well got the frame to the powder coater 
finally on my way somewhere...
got the rear axle disassembled and got the drum backing plates off - if anyone wants them the drums/wheel cylinders/shoes and everything look really good - come with lines too.
what was sweet was that i needed to grind the head of two of the bolts for the lower rearmost rivet holes on my rear crossmember because they are so close to the shackle mount.. you might know what i'm talking about - anyways i used the backing plate bolts which sit flush against the mount.. it worked realllly well.
also spent two hours searching parts.. had to go to ACE for some 3/8th hardware for the frame.. i needed a diff cover gasket, diff cover studs, and front/rear pinion seals - of course napa didn't have the diff cover gasket or the rear pinion seal so i headed to toyota - turns out the after market pinion seals are crap compared to toyota. i'll put up pictures later to show the difference. i'm going to put those in tomorrow and start to wirewheel the axles and get them ready for paint.
any suggestions on getting studs in? i read somewhere you can use a small grinder to put a notch in the stud and screw it in with a flat head screwdriver but I'd rather not cut the studs..
finally on my way somewhere...got the rear axle disassembled and got the drum backing plates off - if anyone wants them the drums/wheel cylinders/shoes and everything look really good - come with lines too.
what was sweet was that i needed to grind the head of two of the bolts for the lower rearmost rivet holes on my rear crossmember because they are so close to the shackle mount.. you might know what i'm talking about - anyways i used the backing plate bolts which sit flush against the mount.. it worked realllly well.
also spent two hours searching parts.. had to go to ACE for some 3/8th hardware for the frame.. i needed a diff cover gasket, diff cover studs, and front/rear pinion seals - of course napa didn't have the diff cover gasket or the rear pinion seal so i headed to toyota - turns out the after market pinion seals are crap compared to toyota. i'll put up pictures later to show the difference. i'm going to put those in tomorrow and start to wirewheel the axles and get them ready for paint.
any suggestions on getting studs in? i read somewhere you can use a small grinder to put a notch in the stud and screw it in with a flat head screwdriver but I'd rather not cut the studs..
Take two nuts and put them both on and use two wrenches to tighten them together as tight as you can!! Not tighten them down ofcourse but tighten them together!! Then use the wrench on the bottom nut to try and unscrew them. Or visa versa to put them in??
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well.. got some work done today... had to use my sister's camera since i left mine at my apartment - she has a fancy one that i couldn't figure out how to focus...
here is the difference between OEM (left) and NAPA (right) pinion seals... yea.
then here is the seal installed... wasn't as bad as i thought. to get the nut off i put a C-clamp on the flange and used that to get some leverage. afterwards i just tightened the nut back to where it was and indented it again so it wouldn't move.
here is the difference between OEM (left) and NAPA (right) pinion seals... yea.
then here is the seal installed... wasn't as bad as i thought. to get the nut off i put a C-clamp on the flange and used that to get some leverage. afterwards i just tightened the nut back to where it was and indented it again so it wouldn't move.
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then for an un-numbered amount of hours i grinded the axle clean - paint tomorrow 
however first i need to weld on brake line hold down tabs.. the original ones were spot welded on so i drilled a hole in the tabs i made and tried to weld them on that way... but no matter what power setting i used I couldn't get the welds to 'stick' i would weld the in the whole on the tab and the tab would get red hot and then just fall off - i realize this is because the axle housing is so thick but how do you fix this? my dad recommended heating up the axle with a torch and then weld it together.. he used to build ships/subs at the groton sub base but he isn't a welder (he is usually right but i never know what to believe.. lol) ideas?
however first i need to weld on brake line hold down tabs.. the original ones were spot welded on so i drilled a hole in the tabs i made and tried to weld them on that way... but no matter what power setting i used I couldn't get the welds to 'stick' i would weld the in the whole on the tab and the tab would get red hot and then just fall off - i realize this is because the axle housing is so thick but how do you fix this? my dad recommended heating up the axle with a torch and then weld it together.. he used to build ships/subs at the groton sub base but he isn't a welder (he is usually right but i never know what to believe.. lol) ideas?
Looking good!!! Soon you'll be 
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Think I'll teach my daughter to weld 
less the = Think I'll teach my daughter to weld 
nice job.... you are well on your way!!
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so i got more work done today... work on the rear axle is almost done - the paint came out awesome except i F'd up a little bit.. apparently it takes forever for this stuff to dry (unlike the primer) and I didn't really wait long enough for it to dry so it turned all scaly - I'll let it dry overnight and give it one more coat tomorrow... - should smooth it out a little bit - but it's an axle so I don't really care that much.
got the front springs (just found out they were the front)** wire wheeled and painted - they came out much better since I actually waited for the paint to dry before i gave them another coat.
**side note: I ground away some paint and underneath is said ROUGH COUNTRY - well now I know what kind of springs they are! so I called up rough country to find out which springs were which (front vs rear) and from what I've gathered I might have a 4'' lift and the rears will have a greater arch (distance from the spring pin to the imaginary line drawn between the two eyes) than the front springs.. for two of the springs i got 7.5'' and for the other two i got about 9'' so I'm guessing the 9'' arch springs are the rear... is this true?
and finished putting the new pinion seal in the front axle and welded on new soft brake line brackets for the front axle - I'm going to try to grind down the front axle and get some primer on it tomorrow.
got the front springs (just found out they were the front)** wire wheeled and painted - they came out much better since I actually waited for the paint to dry before i gave them another coat.
**side note: I ground away some paint and underneath is said ROUGH COUNTRY - well now I know what kind of springs they are! so I called up rough country to find out which springs were which (front vs rear) and from what I've gathered I might have a 4'' lift and the rears will have a greater arch (distance from the spring pin to the imaginary line drawn between the two eyes) than the front springs.. for two of the springs i got 7.5'' and for the other two i got about 9'' so I'm guessing the 9'' arch springs are the rear... is this true?
and finished putting the new pinion seal in the front axle and welded on new soft brake line brackets for the front axle - I'm going to try to grind down the front axle and get some primer on it tomorrow.
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and the springs.. I ran out of wire wheels so I'll need to get some more tomorrow..
greater arch does go in the rear... I have the same springs in mine
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well it is pouring outside so I'm waiting for the storm to pass before I get some primer on my axle.. I might have to cover stuff and spray it in the tent.
thought I'd show some of my mess... it'll get cleaned someday...
rear axle reassembled.. and the front axle ready for paint.
black top coat comes tomorrow and then my frame should be back from the powder coater later this week... the only crappy part is school starts on thursday - but I might come back on the weekend to reassemble everything.
thought I'd show some of my mess... it'll get cleaned someday...
rear axle reassembled.. and the front axle ready for paint.
black top coat comes tomorrow and then my frame should be back from the powder coater later this week... the only crappy part is school starts on thursday - but I might come back on the weekend to reassemble everything.
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alright so another update along the same lines.. got the front axle and rear springs done.. then came out pretty good - actually waited for the paint to dry this time.
picking up my frame on Friday from the powder coater...
o and 4x4 thanks for the tip.. the studs went in really easily
picking up my frame on Friday from the powder coater...
o and 4x4 thanks for the tip.. the studs went in really easily
