Builds 1st FJ40, '76 - SMOKEY - Puttin’ her Back Together (3 Viewers)

[Vae Victus]

On another note - bought the metal to build this:

Thanks to the good folks here who gave out the plans for free:

I know why a rotisserie cost $1500. The steel alone was $550, and I've not bought the casters or the nuts & bolts.

 

[sggoat]

It's a method of delivering any coating. From my limited research(3 kids under 7) it can be used to deliver primer or a finish coat of "paint". I have only briefly talked to him about it but he was saying it will outperform powder for corrosion and was another if not a better option because it reaches the blind areas of whatever is being dipped.

Another benefit I see would be for the tub. We have a company in Toledo that is doing large, non acidic rust removal dip. Pair that with the e-coat and I will be able to remove all rust (inside seams, body mounts etc.) and then with the ecoat protect where a spray gun can't reach. Then do my body work and paint.

The main reason that I have been leaning towards the powder is the cost savings. I do not have a place to sandblast my frame. Our powder coaters are within a few hundred of just having it sandblasted. They also include the zinc rinse for that price.

Pay me now or pay me later-usually twice as much--go with the galv/e-coat

 

[Weber Sarge]

No offense , but I see no way to rotate the body with that set of plans ??
Yeah , price of steel is just crazy right now ...
Sarge

 

[Rainman]

Sarge,

It's the (poorly drawn) tubes on the ends. You have to do some math and DaVinci brainwork to find the center of gravity with the tub mounted. When you find that it will rotate. I'm not sure how Vae will figure that out but I'm POSITIVE he will.

Here's a better view to show how it works and then an image of what I suggested he buy. Not sure he has the room for that one though.

 

[Vae Victus]

Yep, here's the detail. Too small in original view.

Rainey - nice pic. Where'd you find that? Yea, no way I can get the hoop version in my small space.

Here's the link to the plans BTW. They have plans for the hoop version too - also free.

http://redwingsteelworksplans.com/w...teel-Works-Auto-Rotisserie-Plans-10242012.pdf

 

[Weber Sarge]

I prefer another design that's out there somewhere - it uses two long engine hoist rams to lift and lower the body , would be stable if you're anywhere close to weight centerline . I just build or engineer things on the fly from pictures , seems to work ...
I'll have to load up the pics of the 12 ton benchtop press brake I just finished - works great on small parts .
Sarge

 

[Vae Victus]

This one has that, but he says it is optional. Shown as an afterthought.

 

[Rainman]

That does nothing in the "help department" for balancing the rig. You still have to balance it the same way. Man power.

 

[Weber Sarge]

Yep, that type is it . I agree , it still has to be weight centered as with any rotisserie .
Sarge

 

[Vae Victus]

Bought nuts and bolts for the rotisserie $175 for those, a good drill bit, and a chop saw blade.

Total cost now about $725 USD.

The 3/4" nuts and bolt combo are about $4 ea in grade 8.

 

[CreeperSleeper]

So... Can I borrow it?

 

[Vae Victus]

So... Can I borrow it?

Meh - sure when I'm done. You may be in a home by then!

 

[dancar]

Wow - that cost is prohibitive....

Even though it's great to fab your own, rotisseries here are around the $700AUD mark. I'm going to get one like the following:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4000LB-C...=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58bb5d8afc

When I'm done, I'll sell it.

Dan

 

[Vae Victus]

I found a couple on eBay US for around $950 + freight so still around 1100. Others are over $1500.

Wow with AUD to USD conversion $700 is about $570 US.

 

[tinnhound]

Here is a link to a company that makes them here in Alberta, if you watch the video and look at the pictures, you will see how it is built to find the center balance point of the body so it spins easily.
http://resto-revolver.ca/
I am also acquiring materials to build my own, got the rams and the castors

 

[Vae Victus]

Here is a link to a company that makes them here in Alberta, if you watch the video and look at the pictures, you will see how it is built to find the center balance point of the body so it spins easily.
http://resto-revolver.ca/
I am also acquiring materials to build my own, got the rams and the castors

Cool - going to check it out! The journey is half the joy!

 

[Vae Victus]

So I'm really not super crazy about the 14" Dewalt Chop Saw and abrasive wheels right now.

Straight cuts on 2" and 2 1/2" square tube x 3/16" take about 7-8 minutes. That's bearable, but a single 45* cut on the 2" tube is taking about 20-30 minutes. They are pure torture. It's also tripping my 20 amp breaker if I put just a little too much pressure on it. So about 3 times per cut I have to go and reset the breaker.

I've still got one more 45 to cut. It'll get done but man, I'm wishing for a slow rpm carbide blade and saw. Can't justify it but I can dream!

I also have about more 15 cuts on the 3" tube and four on some 2 1/2" and 3" Schedule 80 pipe. The pipe is a non starter - I'm paying someone to cut that stuff. It's too thick.

I've tried a thinner blade and a thicker blade. Both seem about the same speed wise.

Anyone with experience on which blade should be better on this thicker material?

 

[Vae Victus]

Here is a link to a company that makes them here in Alberta, if you watch the video and look at the pictures, you will see how it is built to find the center balance point of the body so it spins easily.
http://resto-revolver.ca/
I am also acquiring materials to build my own, got the rams and the castors

I'm liking the ability to raise and lower the balance points with the threaded rod. Need to add that.

 

[Weber Sarge]

You can add high speed 100 tooth carbide blades to those saws - there are ones made for it . Be aware , the chips are hot enough to start a fire and hurt like hell on your skin . On mitered cuts I just use either an angle grinder w/cutoff wheel or the sawzall , way faster and more accurate . If don't have one - get a LaSquare - https://lasquare.us/ .

For a lifting screw - at least 1" acme threaded rod , a few heavy nuts and some plate steel will make the lifting mechanism easy enough and support the weight easily .

Sarge

 

[76technician]

I second the Sawzall, at the proper speed you'll be surprised at how well it goes through mild steel and how accurately you can cut.