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Getting those 44 balls back in will be a pain, but there’s plenty of write ups on how to do it, especially in the land cruise sections on ‘Mud thankfully. I wasn’t planning on doing the input shaft but it looked like it was leaking from there, so I’d rather do it now than have to pull the box again.

Most of the box rebuilds I’ve seen show that lock ring and nut but not the one my steering box has. I also looked through the FSMs I have and it doesn’t say anything other than to replace the worm drive if there’s too much play.
 
i think there's a thread on pirate with this box
I’ve been reading all through pirate looking for one. I’ll keep looking, I’ve seen a few mentions about it being a “non serviceable” part on the box.
 
I’ve been reading all through pirate looking for one. I’ll keep looking, I’ve seen a few mentions about it being a “non serviceable” part on the box.
i think it was ErikB
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went and dug. it was inked to offroad.com🤣
 
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New radio bezel installed. Had to replace the cig lighter socket and throw the push button away. Every time I plugged it in, it would pop the 15 amp fuse. The biggest size fuse it wouldn’t pop was an 25 amp fuse. Eventually I may change it to a blue sea dual USB charger as it’s more practical for my uses.
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I think I’ve decided to not screw around with the steering box and just rebuild what I can and if it keeps leaking I’ll send it off. I don’t have the tools to set the preload. If it was the other style of nut and lock ring I’d be more inclined to mess with it.
 
Circling back around to the suspension on this truck. I know 2 of my 4 shocks are toast, looking at shock options it seems to be limited when it comes to 84-85 trucks for good brands. A full set of Dobinsons is around $600, and OME's are around $508 and the last set of OME's didn't last very many miles, so I'm hesitant to spend the money on them again. I normally run Bilstein's and am happy with them but they only offer standard height shocks for the 84-85's. When looking at Bilstein's website, it doesn't look like the front IFS shocks are any different than the SFA shocks, but photos are deceiving. Which brings me around to my question,

Will IFS shocks fit on SFA trucks or is there a known difference? My googling is only showing the stupid IFS vs SFA threads. Is it that the front shock towers are taller on one compared to the other? Or is a better option to rip out the stock SFA shock towers and weld in some shock hoops and run longer shocks?

I'm trying to avoid having to grind off the paint I put on the frame but if it's better in the long run I will. Overall, new hops, paint and shocks won't be cheaper than a set of Dobinsons. I'm also thinking of asking Alcan if they can make me a new main spring for my rear leaf spring pack that is an inch longer for better shackles angles. Yeah, I know Chevy 63's are cheaper But I'm happy with my current lift and overall stance of the truck and I don't want to mess with it too much. It sits level currently with no lift blocks and I love that.
 
Circling back around to the suspension on this truck. I know 2 of my 4 shocks are toast, looking at shock options it seems to be limited when it comes to 84-85 trucks for good brands. A full set of Dobinsons is around $600, and OME's are around $508 and the last set of OME's didn't last very many miles, so I'm hesitant to spend the money on them again. I normally run Bilstein's and am happy with them but they only offer standard height shocks for the 84-85's. When looking at Bilstein's website, it doesn't look like the front IFS shocks are any different than the SFA shocks, but photos are deceiving. Which brings me around to my question,

Will IFS shocks fit on SFA trucks or is there a known difference? My googling is only showing the stupid IFS vs SFA threads. Is it that the front shock towers are taller on one compared to the other? Or is a better option to rip out the stock SFA shock towers and weld in some shock hoops and run longer shocks?

I'm trying to avoid having to grind off the paint I put on the frame but if it's better in the long run I will. Overall, new hops, paint and shocks won't be cheaper than a set of Dobinsons. I'm also thinking of asking Alcan if they can make me a new main spring for my rear leaf spring pack that is an inch longer for better shackles angles. Yeah, I know Chevy 63's are cheaper But I'm happy with my current lift and overall stance of the truck and I don't want to mess with it too much. It sits level currently with no lift blocks and I love that.
i would just go bils vs the other two.
did you search using just dims vs application?
that is where i normally end up
 
i would just go bils vs the other two.
did you search using just dims vs application?
that is where i normally end up
Not yet. I think that’s what I’m going to have to do though, I’ll probably pull one of my OME shocks and get its compressed and extended lengths to help narrow it down quickly. For how popular these trucks are, it sure is hard to find shocks for a medium lift the application way.

If I was going to do more than use this truck as a daily in the winter and for mountain runs with snow and mud I’d be more concerned about articulation but hell, most of the roads I can take in my F-350, it just sucks to turn around and I don’t like beating it up that way.

Edit: the ARB website had the shock lengths on it already so that makes life easier.
 
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I found all the lengths and other key data on the shocks surplus website. Good for reference, whether you buy there or not.
 
I finally want to update the 3rz head saga. I've finally pulled off the 3rz head to inspect the cylinder walls, I wanted to do this to see if there was any damage or signs of low oil pressure that would've caused issues. The cylinder walls still look like the day I bought it and even the rust marks are still there from the block rusting during storage at Toyota's warehouse.

This cylinder has was purchased from APRAUTO on eBay, aka. Toyota Truck Engines on the internet, and their email is toyotacarparts.com (all of this is a red flag to me now), it was a brand new cylinder head with no core charge, interestingly enough, I got a return label for my old core when I received the new one. I was also very unimpressed with the quality. There was what I think is a lot of flashing left in the ports, scratching on the cylinder head surface and the exhaust camshaft doesn't come tensioned per the FSM. The spark plug guide tubes came in a generic zip lock bag like what you buy at Walmart, and the icing on the cake for me, is that the camshaft buckets are shimless. Meaning you have to get a whole new bucket if the valve clearance isn't right and a few of mine were on the tighter side. My solution was to just install new buckets when I did my first valve adjustment at 20k miles.

I ported and polish the head due to the left over cast that was present, I should've also cleaned up the inside of the head to avoid all that extra cast too. I started the truck and broke the camshaft in, I used Sta-Lube over all surfaces prior to assembly as well. I've used this in the past with no issues on a BBF that I have driven from north to south with and when I rebuilt my old 22re. I ran Maxima 10w-30 break in oil and verified I had oil pressure by a mechanical gauge during engine break in to avoid this issue.

When the head broke I was sitting at idle in my garage trying to get my tach to start working, the front of the intake camshaft sheared off at about the middle, where the oil port is drilled. There were no warning signs, the engine just stopped. Now when I contacted the company they asked for photos of the camshaft, bearing caps, and oil pump cover and gears. At first I only send the camshaft and cap photos and talked on the phone with them, they told me that the Toyota FSM is incorrect on how to install the oil pump and that they used to have a 50% failure rate on their engine due to it being installed wrong and that they don't ship their fully rebuilt engines with the oil pump anymore due to it. I did have wear on the oil pump cover, it was a fresh one from Toyota but none of the wear can be felt with a finger nail, however my timing cover is the old one from the 3rz that spun a rod bearing, I had stripped it and cleaned it prior to using is, even pulling the bypass out. The Camshafts seem to have odd wear to me, some of the bearings and wonderful and some are worn pretty good for maybe 2 hours of run time.

Maybe I screwed up, Maybe the camshaft broke. I'll photo dump everything and let people decide for themselves. One frustration I had with them was all the different names and that once I sent the photos of the oil pump there was no follow up, no "It's your fault", just radio silence.

Links:

Condition of 3rz head when received (post 125) and post 132 contains pictures of the shimless buckets Builds - 1984 Pickup Rebuild - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1984-pickup-rebuild.1310275/page-7

Pictures of the broken camshaft and oil pump cover (Post #257) Builds - 1984 Pickup Rebuild - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1984-pickup-rebuild.1310275/page-13

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This is number 4 bearing on the exhaust camshaft. The most wear out of all of them. Number 5 was in way better condition.
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Been making some small progress. Steering box is back together, I ended up just leaving the input shaft seal and if it is leaking I’ll get it professionally rebuilt. I’m not setup to deal with that nut and I’d rather not have a paper weight. I pulled the tires off and threw them in the bed for now to keep the weight off to avoid flat spots.

Also got new speakers ordered, a set of 4” for the dash and 6.5” for the doors.

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I also ordered a new float for inside the fuel tank. My previous fix had worked but with dropping the tank to drain all the fuel out I figured I’d just replace it. Ordered it from Cruiser Yard (@arcteryx) and had it within 3 days.
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I’ve also been on the lookout for a replacement harness for my 22re as I’m thinking of just dropping it back in while I save up funds to fix this 3RZ. I plan on going with a head from LC Engineering due to quality concerns with aftermarket crap and it’ll give good peace of mind. I also plan on installing a real oil pressure gauge from AEM to monitor oil pressure next time.
 
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Been making some small progress. Steering box is back together, I ended up just leaving the input shaft seal and if it is leaking I’ll get it professionally rebuilt. I’m not setup to deal with that nut and I’d rather not have a paper weight. I pulled the tires off and threw them in the bed for now to keep the weight off to avoid flat spots.

Also got new speakers ordered, a set of 4” for the dash and 6.5” for the doors.

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I also ordered a new float for inside the fuel tank. My previous fix had worked but with dropping the tank to drain all the fuel out I figured I’d just replace it. Ordered it from Cruiser Yard (@arcteryx) and had it within 3 days.
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I’ve also been on the lookout for a replacement harness for my 22re as I’m thinking of just dropping it back in while I save up funds to fix this 3RZ. I plan on going with a head from LC Engineering due to quality concerns with aftermarket crap and it’ll give good peace of mind. I also plan on installing a real oil pressure gauge from AEM to monitor oil pressure next time.
LC engineering for a 3RZ head or the 22RE? Have you ordered from them before?
 
LC engineering for a 3RZ head or the 22RE? Have you ordered from them before?
A few years ago I need to replace the head on my 22re. I went with LCE. No complaints, except it took weeks to get it.
 
LC engineering for a 3RZ head or the 22RE? Have you ordered from them before?
LC Engineering for the head for the 3rz as well as stage 1 camshafts. I'll figure out what I'm doing bucket wise at some point.

I've used them a decent amount. I used them back when I rebuild my old 22re, I got the entire bottom end from them and fuel injectors. I've used them for this 3rz as well, I got the head bolts, timing chain and a few other items from them. Their quality is good and they use OEM castings
 
Thanks for the responses above. I have a new short block, but I got rid of all my worn out heads when I moved. Just started more serious searching this week.
 
Finished up with the 9.5TI rebuild. It got a new motor, new solenoids, new remote, and eventually I’ll put synthetic line on it. I ended up using Aeroshell 64 as no one had a NGLI #1 grease locally, so with shipping it was a wash and Amazon had it to me in two days. I have more photos of the assembly if anyone needs them or wants me to post them. Below is mainly just highlights of information I found important.

I do have one question, am I supposed to be able to move the winch in and out with the clutch disengaged for free spooling? The remote will still turn the drum both directions. I feel like the 8274 doesn’t do that but it has been many years since I’ve used a winch.

How the clutch gear goes into the end housing
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Order of gears on the clutch side, the drum support does need to be installed first, this was just for reference.
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Overview of the wiring. I do have a wiring diagram as well, it uses different colors for the wires as they updated the remote pig tail on later models.

Do not lose that buds at that goes from the first to the last solenoid. I could not find a replacement and reused mine after panicking since I couldn’t find it.
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Winch assembled and working for the first time in 8 years. I still need a new power cable but I need to get crimpers and make my own.
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