ARCHIVE 100 Series Cat-back Exhaust

[VidereStudios]

Are any of you guys getting these without the catalytic converters? Any thoughts or opinions on not replacing the catalytic converters (besides obvious emission testing) in the exhaust system?

 

[AATLAS1X]

I'm excited to install one of these systems in the next few weeks and compare to my 100 with what I had grafted in.

 

[Romer]

I have it and its a drone at ~2k, makes for tedious long trips. A blast around town.

Going to go back to a stock set up as soon as I get cash for a new OEM cat back.

why not add a resonator to quiet it down?

When I did a custom exhaust on my 80, it was too loud and I added a glass pac near the tail pipe to quiet it down

 

[PhrogsPhorever]

why not add a resonator to quiet it down?

Resonators are for pussies

I like the non resonator as everything is tucked up in between the frame rails, no smashing of the tailpipe. Works great with the 4x4 labs bumper.

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[Romer]

Resonators are for pussies

I like the non resonator as everything is tucked up in between the frame rails, no smashing of the tailpipe. Works great with the 4x4 labs bumper.

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well then a glass pak like I did to change the sound a bit

 

[PhrogsPhorever]

well then a glass pak like I did to change the sound a bit

Actually, since it is a bolt on, you could get one of each for the end pipe, that way you can add the resonator when you want to "church up" your 100

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[LCAdvocate]

I'm in on the exhaust and mid-pipes as long as matching headers are soon to follow, which I will also buy. Thanks for finally making a complete, properly sized system

 

[00N8]

I plan to get the mid pipes without the cats, I have a SC and don't have any emissions restrictions in my area. I do want to make sure that doing this doesn't trip any sensors, as I understand the flanges are setup to read the air from outside of the pipes so it doesn't trigger emission checklights.

Are any of you guys getting these without the catalytic converters? Any thoughts or opinions on not replacing the catalytic converters (besides obvious emission testing) in the exhaust system?

 

[2000UZJ]

I've been searching for a way to do a cat delete on the 100 after hearing Gunny's LC without them. Even with the OEM muffler, it sounded amazing.

 

[PoppaWheelie]

baktasht
Just curious if there is any plan to do a "mail order" turbo kit for us after you're done with the 80 kit? It seems like there should be a market if the price point is right. The kit for the 80 looks great, I can only imagine what you could do for our V8. Hope this drums up some interest and or motivation.
Oh and to stay on topic the exhaust looks awesome. Looks like a good bang for the buck.

 

[2000UZJ]

I've got a question. My OEM cats are going out right now. I have a CEL, and the things are throwing bits of the internals out the back. EMS offers a mid pipe without cats. Is this going to throw a CEL code? Does EMS know how to turn the CEL off with the catless mid pipe? FYI- If you have ever heard a 100 with no cats and stock muffler, it's one amazing sound. It's exactly the sound I want.

 

[VidereStudios]

3- we have our pipes 3d scanned and each section of pipe is mandrel bent as one piece by a highly accurate computerized CNC bending machine. After this batch is ready then all assemblies going forward are built using the custom bent sections.

baktasht, have you guys got to the point in your production process where all pipes are now scanned and mandrel bent as one piece?

 

[KlausVanWinkle]

Anyone have the full Cat-Bak and the DT Headers? I'd like to see the WHP numbers for that.

 

[PoppaWheelie]

Anyone have the full Cat-Bak and the DT Headers? I'd like to see the WHP numbers for that.

Last I heard RobRed was working on that.

https://forum.ih8mud.com/100-series-cruisers/649910-catback-exhaust-testing.html

I'd like to see the results as well.

 

[lesgarten]

Same "drone" on mine around 2K RPM. It is definitely a different type and less pleasant sound than at other engine speeds. The rest of the RPM range is as expected...audible for sure, but not overly loud or droning. At ~2K RPM, it is a different story.

Makes long drives a bit less comfortable, but isn't unbearable. Then again, family and other passengers have noticed and commented, so it may something to think about.

For the record, no resonator, spare is in original location, all OEM hangers used.

What type of tip do you guys have? The turn down or rear exit?

It looks like the OP has been out of pocket for a month or so.

I am in the market for a complete system as well.

Is there a more accurate date on the Headers now?

I think I'll do some calling on Monday for some more info.

It's been a while since the CATback was supplied for testing, has that gone off?

 

[NKP Garage]

Any update on the mid pipes for the later year 100's? I have my mid and tail pipes on order. Just checking.

Thanks

The newer 100 series mid-pipes should be ready to ship the week of Dec 17th.

I'm excited to install one of these systems in the next few weeks and compare to my 100 with what I had grafted in.

Looks like we have 2 coming your way. One for one of your customer's rigs and one for your truck

Actually, since it is a bolt on, you could get one of each for the end pipe, that way you can add the resonator when you want to "church up" your 100

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Yes, since it is a bolt-on, we do have customers that order the system with 2 tailpipes. One with a resonator and one without. That way they can switch them out as they wish.

I'm in on the exhaust and mid-pipes as long as matching headers are soon to follow, which I will also buy. Thanks for finally making a complete, properly sized system

We're happy to be able to offer performance parts to such a great community of owners. The donor vehicle is being dropped off around the new year for the header mockup and testing. I'll keep you guys updated on the progress as we get to the headers as it seems many people are excited to see how they turn out.

I've been searching for a way to do a cat delete on the 100 after hearing Gunny's LC without them. Even with the OEM muffler, it sounded amazing.

Our mid-pipes are available with no cats, single cat, or dual cats.

baktasht
Just curious if there is any plan to do a "mail order" turbo kit for us after you're done with the 80 kit? It seems like there should be a market if the price point is right. The kit for the 80 looks great, I can only imagine what you could do for our V8. Hope this drums up some interest and or motivation.
Oh and to stay on topic the exhaust looks awesome. Looks like a good bang for the buck.

We can build anything. As far as a turbo kit for the 100 series, if there is enough interest we can build a setup for you guys.

I've got a question. My OEM cats are going out right now. I have a CEL, and the things are throwing bits of the internals out the back. EMS offers a mid pipe without cats. Is this going to throw a CEL code? Does EMS know how to turn the CEL off with the catless mid pipe? FYI- If you have ever heard a 100 with no cats and stock muffler, it's one amazing sound. It's exactly the sound I want.

Our single and dual cat midpipes will never throw a CEL light. Our midpipes with no cats at all should keep the CEL off but there's no guarantee, we have seen about 10% of vehicles we do cat-delete pipes still throw a CEL light. On the 100 series, so far we have shipped 4 sets of cat-less mid-pipes and have heard of no CEL lights yet. If you want your CEL to stay off for sure, I would recommend at least 1 cat per mid-pipe

 

[lesgarten]

Our single and dual cat midpipes will never throw a CEL light. Our midpipes with no cats at all should keep the CEL off but there's no guarantee, we have seen about 10% of vehicles we do cat-delete pipes still throw a CEL light. On the 100 series, so far we have shipped 4 sets of cat-less mid-pipes and have heard of no CEL lights yet. If you want your CEL to stay off for sure, I would recommend at least 1 cat per mid-pipe

One question and one point of observation and information for the folks on the thread.

Question: If the Mid pipe throws a CEL code because of the CAT delete, does the LC/LX switch into a LIMP mode till it is corrected?

Observation/Information/Suggestions:

This page has some some issues to me.

MidPipe Page

The pic shows a Pipe with CATS. The price is $139. But if you click add to cart, you have to look at the fine print to see there are no CATs at that price.

Then you go back to the original page and have to page down through the Huge graph and all the nice photos you posted and there are the options for one and two cats and the additional charges.

At least to me this is confusing. The CATs make the cost go up considerably. But the Photo and the add to cart suggest you are getting what is in this picture for $139 and that is each, two reauired. I would make the two required up front and in Bold

My suggestion, your website developer should be able to fix this in 30 seconds, and if this design was his idea, he shouldn't charge you for it, because it was a screwup on his part. You shouldn't have the shopping cart in one place, and the add-on options 4 pages down.

This is a Top Gun kinda thing, you want to be the man, you got to beat the man. You need to do it cleaner and better than the other guy. You made some bold statements early on. You need to under promise and over deliver. That means honest webpage presentation, honest product presentation, good communication, and hit your timelines and promises.

If you tell someone their product is shipped and it wasn't, well frankly that smells of Ebay/Internet shenanigans.

I would fix the shopping cart on this page as well:
CATBack System

I am clueless why someone would set this up like this??

 

[NKP Garage]

One question and one point of observation and information for the folks on the thread.

Question: If the Mid pipe throws a CEL code because of the CAT delete, does the LC/LX switch into a LIMP mode till it is corrected?

Observation/Information/Suggestions:

This page has some some issues to me.

MidPipe Page

The pic shows a Pipe with CATS. The price is $139. But if you click add to cart, you have to look at the fine print to see there are no CATs at that price.

Then you go back to the original page and have to page down through the Huge graph and all the nice photos you posted and there are the options for one and two cats and the additional charges.

At least to me this is confusing. The CATs make the cost go up considerably. But the Photo and the add to cart suggest you are getting what is in this picture for $139 and that is each, two reauired. I would make the two required up front and in Bold

My suggestion, your website developer should be able to fix this in 30 seconds, and if this design was his idea, he shouldn't charge you for it, because it was a screwup on his part. You shouldn't have the shopping cart in one place, and the add-on options 4 pages down.

This is a Top Gun kinda thing, you want to be the man, you got to beat the man. You need to do it cleaner and better than the other guy. You made some bold statements early on. You need to under promise and over deliver. That means honest webpage presentation, honest product presentation, good communication, and hit your timelines and promises.

If you tell someone their product is shipped and it wasn't, well frankly that smells of Ebay/Internet shenanigans.

I would fix the shopping cart on this page as well:
CATBack System

I am clueless why someone would set this up like this??

Thank you for the suggestions. I am not a web developer. The website shopping cart software we have used for the last 8 year's is zencart and the particular template we are using places the add to cart button at the top but the options at the bottom. You make a valid point. I will see if we can figure out hoe to put the add to cart button at the bottom next to the options so that it is easimy to see the options before hiring the add to.cart button so that you know exactly what you're ordering.

 

[NKP Garage]

Question: If the Mid pipe throws a CEL code because of the CAT delete, does the LC/LX switch into a LIMP mode till it is corrected?

No, it will not go into limp mode.

 

[lesgarten]

No, it will not go into limp mode.

Thanx!