If you had zero oil pressure then the light will come on, if you didn't have that then it wasnt completely dry yet. Did you hear any knocking sound during the drive home? I think you'll be okay.
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No. No noise, no lights on dash, no gauges reading funny. Just smoke from under hood and burnt oil smell. Should be noted I live and work just a few miles from the dealer, so not like I was a highway speed for 20 miles or anything. About 4 miles and never above 40mph.If you had zero oil pressure then the light will come on, if you didn't have that then it wasnt completely dry yet. Did you hear any knocking sound during the drive home? I think you'll be okay.
There's a great shop in Houston that I've been to before, Javier's Crawl Shop. Javier is fantastic. Only problem is Javier is the only guy at his shop. Take your car there be prepared to leave it for a week for work. Like most here I avoid dealer work but who'd a thunk an oil change and putting on new wipers would be so challenging. My pop taught me how to change oil when I was a little kid. It's not exactly splitting the atom.That sucks big time. The best outcome you can hope for (if the engine is damaged) is a replacement motor (rebuilt).
My favorite car of ALL time was my 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo. She was white with blue leather interior and the super rare targa top and Fujitsu10 audio system with 10 disc cd changer (very, VERY rare for the time). It was the car my parents got me for my high school graduation. I was meticulous maintaining it. In 1991, I took it to a Jiffy Lube to get the oil changed. They did everything right except put oil back in. Engine seized, turbo destroyed within a few miles. Went round and round until their insurance finally paid for a "new" (rebuilt) motor. She never drove the same after that. I sold it 6 months later after having to take it into the shop multiple times for ongoing issues with the rebuilt motor. I still miss that car more than anything.
I hope your engine is ok. At minimum, I'd demand a 1 year unlimited/no deductible warranty on the engine. File a claim with ToyotaUSA. The dealers are "independent" so there is nothing Toyota corporate can do except "lean" on the dealer. Ultimately, it's up to the dealer to decide what they want to do.
After my recent steering rack debacle (dealer failed to put coolant back in which led to a near catastrophic overheat scenario), I've decided to never, ever, ever again go to any Toyota dealer for any service whatsoever. I now have an 12-month unlimited mileage/no deductible warranty on my motor with the dealer paying for my Blackstone tests every oil change during that window. My costs were significantly more than yours for the original service ($2k+), so getting my money back has been a PITA....but, my fight continues.
In the end, I think it's safe to say that taking our rigs to Toyota dealers is an absolute crap shoot. The guys doing the "basic" services are not mechanics. They are just dudes who work for minimum wage for beer money and don't really care. Nothing is ever torqued correctly, crush washers are left off, short cuts are made everywhere in the interest of saving time. I trust the ham fisted guys at Discount Tire better....and they just ram on the lug nuts with an impact wrench without regard. For reference, I've never met a single Toyota dealer tech here in Austin who can explain what the AHC system is. Heck, several even asked why I was bringing an LX470 to them. They didn't know that it was a LandCruiser. Yeah, that's what we're dealing with. Learn to do most, if not ALL, of your own repairs/maintenance or find a trusted source (I'm lucky here in Austin to have both Land Cruiser Specialists and Bearden Automotive.....both KNOW Land Cruisers very very well).
I'm surprised the tech didn't catch it right away, when i first started at my shop i double gasketed the filter while working on a Acura TL. As soon as i started the engine oil was spraying everywhere, i saw it while backing out of the bay and immediately came back to clean up and replaced the filter. As soon as you start any car that oil pump is going and oil should be shooting out if there were 2 gaskets. Should be a trail of oil dripping down from the skid plate and would be spotted while moving your truck out of the service bay.
With Alita, well she is mine, the wife taking the 4Runner to Toyota is the whole "outta sight outta mind" thing for her. I would rather do it myself for the things that I can and that I have the tools for. Still debating on doing my own starter R&R as I don't have a top level creeper, don't want to buy one and the engine was cramped enough while I was doing the Heater T's!!
That sucks big time. The best outcome you can hope for (if the engine is damaged) is a replacement motor (rebuilt).
My favorite car of ALL time was my 1989 Toyota Supra Turbo. She was white with blue leather interior and the super rare targa top and Fujitsu10 audio system with 10 disc cd changer (very, VERY rare for the time). It was the car my parents got me for my high school graduation. I was meticulous maintaining it. In 1991, I took it to a Jiffy Lube to get the oil changed. They did everything right except put oil back in. Engine seized, turbo destroyed within a few miles. Went round and round until their insurance finally paid for a "new" (rebuilt) motor. She never drove the same after that. I sold it 6 months later after having to take it into the shop multiple times for ongoing issues with the rebuilt motor. I still miss that car more than anything.
I hope your engine is ok. At minimum, I'd demand a 1 year unlimited/no deductible warranty on the engine. File a claim with ToyotaUSA. The dealers are "independent" so there is nothing Toyota corporate can do except "lean" on the dealer. Ultimately, it's up to the dealer to decide what they want to do.
After my recent steering rack debacle (dealer failed to put coolant back in which led to a near catastrophic overheat scenario), I've decided to never, ever, ever again go to any Toyota dealer for any service whatsoever. I now have an 12-month unlimited mileage/no deductible warranty on my motor with the dealer paying for my Blackstone tests every oil change during that window. My costs were significantly more than yours for the original service ($2k+), so getting my money back has been a PITA....but, my fight continues.
In the end, I think it's safe to say that taking our rigs to Toyota dealers is an absolute crap shoot. The guys doing the "basic" services are not mechanics. They are just dudes who work for minimum wage for beer money and don't really care. Nothing is ever torqued correctly, crush washers are left off, short cuts are made everywhere in the interest of saving time. I trust the ham fisted guys at Discount Tire better....and they just ram on the lug nuts with an impact wrench without regard. For reference, I've never met a single Toyota dealer tech here in Austin who can explain what the AHC system is. Heck, several even asked why I was bringing an LX470 to them. They didn't know that it was a LandCruiser. Yeah, that's what we're dealing with. Learn to do most, if not ALL, of your own repairs/maintenance or find a trusted source (I'm lucky here in Austin to have both Land Cruiser Specialists and Bearden Automotive.....both KNOW Land Cruisers very very well).
Trust issues is what started my career in automotive repairs. Turned out to be the best decision of my life, not only is it lucrative, it allows me to buy expensive cars that a normal person with average income wouldn't touch due to the high maintenance and repair cost.
ie. R230 V12 Twinturbo benz, i have 2 of them
How did the oil s pray everywhere? If it was the drain plug it'd just simply drain out, if it was the oil cap they forgot to put on then it would eventually get everywhere. Might be a double gasket filter, that would spray oil like an aerosol can and is no fun.
Yeah I think I am going to have to grab one of those regardless to work on the truck. Used the household step stool to do the heater ts and while it helped, getting WAAAYYY back there was an interesting maneuver and good thing I am semi-fit and flexible. Still debating on whether I want to spend $700 for a shop to do it and have it back in a day, or do it myself and be down for about 2 days but save about $500.Looked up the top level creeper, that's pretty cool. I used one of these when I did the starter, not as versatile but worked.
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Update:
When changing filter the dealer didn't remove old gasket. Installed new filter w/ gasket on top of old gasket. One post above called it, double gasket. Once engine built pressure, it blew out the gasket. Dealer is stepping up to the plate. They acknowledged fault. They are cleaning engine and under carriage of LC now and will fill w/ new oil and filer, then run compression tests on engine. Per dealer (if I believe them) when they pulled the drain plug two quarts of oil drained out so while no reading on dip stick, maybe enough oil to keep engine from getting damaged. Worth noting, engine temp never went excessively high nor did oil pressure gauge drop when I was driving it.
FYI - this is a '04 TLC w/ 190K miles. OME suspension, ARB bumper, etc. I'm original owner.
This... get full documentation of everything, have it added to the Toyota Website for service records, etc.If they come back as say everything looks good (which they always do) insist on no less than 12 months warranty on that claim. Problems that are inherent in losing all your oil aren't readily discernable. Time will tell. Filling with oil and not hearing anything wrong, good compression numbers and the like are only the beginning. It is possible that irreparable damage could have been done that isn't going to rear it's head for another 400-1000 miles. DO NOT sign anything to the effect that they resolved the problem. There is no way for you or them to know without taking the engine down to find out. Keep that in mind. No matter how much they seem to step up, they do not have your best interest in mind. Act accordingly and protect yourself.
Like most here I avoid dealer work but who'd a thunk an oil change and putting on new wipers would be so challenging. My pop taught me how to change oil when I was a little kid. It's not exactly splitting the atom.
. I've been using the Fumoto valve on mine for years and it makes the change so easy it's ridiculous.
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How far do the threads extend up into the oil pan....does anyone know? Just wondering how much oil doesn't drain fully from the pan when using the valve? If it's minimal....I'm thinking about installing one.
Closing the loop on above. No excuse for being so careless in an oil change but the dealer stepped up. Service manager was great. Got the engine and underside of the car cleaned like if they were going to put in in the lot for sale. Compression tests were excellent. While he had things broken apart they replaced spark plugs and cleaned throttle body. They did an engine oil treatment then replaced with fresh clean oil. They replaced my front brakes & rotors (which I was planning on doing soon anyway), couple other odds and ends. Above someone said I should leave that dealer in a new 200LC. That didn't happen but I'm pleased with their response to the situation. I wasn't there to be an a-hole or take advantage. Just wanted them to make it right.