Saw that clip on KSBW last night...thought it may be a fellow mudder. Glad it all turned out OK in the end and no one was hurt...albeit a bit of a bruised ego, for sure.
Steve
Steve
Yes, this was me.
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Damn...was hoping no one watched the 11 o'clock news.Saw that clip on KSBW last night...thought it may be a fellow mudder. Glad it all turned out OK in the end and no one was hurt...albeit a bit of a bruised ego, for sure.
Steve
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For my use, the winch would be a bit excessive. My LC is my DD and I (usually) do nothing more than light-to-medium trailing...and even at that, it's not a very common occurrence.I say just put a winch on your LC
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These are probably the two best pics of the incident. The first one, my co-worker (first one on the scene/first person I called) took with his cell phone camera. The second one shows that I was probably a wee bit optimistic thinking I could make it across.
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Meh, if the water had been still, and the ground was a little more firm, you could have made it if you kept a bow wave.
You might do a little more off-roading if you had one
Maybe a few more river crossings too!
Or one of these!
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The current/water level wasn't even the issue...it was definitely the fact that the ground I was going across might as well have been quicksand...I MIGHT have made it through if I even just aired down...who knows.
ToyotaDon
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One of my friends from Creston took this picture of the Huer Huero on Sunday, it was way over normal capacity.
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Was this near 41? It was not nearly this wide where I got stuck.One of my friends from Creston took this picture of the Huer Huero on Sunday, it was way over normal capacity.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
Okay... I can understand that the bottom was soft and you got stuck... but I am a little puzzled why you needed assistance to exit the vehicle? we cross water wider, deeper and faster than that routinely. If someone gets stuck or stalled in shallow water like that moving at the speeds that appears to be... we wade out to it and hook up a strap. Just as easy to wade to shore from the rig.
What am I missing here?
Mark...
What am I missing here?
Mark...
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1. the water was 48 degrees, which means you enter the first stage of hypothermia in less than 2 minutes
2. I am a poor swimmer
3. my buddy's attempt to throw a surfboard on a rope failed
4. Although it was only about 3 feet of water, the current was moving reasonably fast enough and the fact that there was no solid ground to stand on means this could have gotten very bad for me in a hurry.
This water was not safe to navigate by trying to 'wade' through it, period. Why do you think CHP sent for a heli if they had guys in diving suits and full gear standing by?
I have a cousin that almost drowned in 3 feet of water fly fishing. Mind you, he was fishing in a river with solid ground. His waders filled with water when he fell over, and that was that. It's not how deep the water is, but rather how much force it is exerting upon you. This is why 3 foot high tsunamis can cause billions in damage.
This being said, 3 hours later, the water had subsided enough for the tow guy to wade out there and hook my truck up to a winch and pull me out. River currents/water levels are very unpredictable in these parts.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
I'm very aware of the power of water. Again... we cross deeper, faster and wider than that routinely.
I guess it must have been moving a lot faster than the effect of your rig sitting there seems to show.
Did it shift the rig downstream? Did it eat the bottom out from under it and casue it to settle deeper while you were there?
(You were not wearing waders I assume, so that really isn't a factor is it?)
The fact that the CHP chose not to take any risk at all when they were called out for a river emergency also has little to do with the actual difficulty of wading/swimming back to shore.
BTW... 48 degrees... that is far from cold in the places we travel. Not sure if I have seen water that warm in any river we cross.
Glad that they got you out okay. Are they going to bill you for the expenses are is the state picking up the tab?
Mark...
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I'm very aware of the power of water. Again... we cross deeper, faster and wider than that routinely.
I guess it must have been moving a lot faster than the effect of your rig sitting there seems to show.
Did it shift the rig downstream? Did it eat the bottom out from under it and casue it to settle deeper while you were there?
(You were not wearing waders I assume, so that really isn't a factor is it?)
The fact that the CHP chose not to take any risk at all when they were called out for a river emergency also has little to do with the actual difficulty of wading/swimming back to shore.
BTW... 48 degrees... that is far from cold in the places we travel. Not sure if I have seen water that warm in any river we cross.
Glad that they got you out okay. Are they going to bill you for the expenses are is the state picking up the tab?
Mark...
The weight of the truck did make it settle, and I could definitely feel it shifting when I was sitting on top, which was a little creepy...it didn't shift too far downstream, maybe a couple of feet, if that. I was about 35 feet from the shore on the other side, and I was not equipped at all...my friend and I were talking afterwards and he said he never thought about throwing me his wetsuit in the back of his car...I might have been able to get to shore that way. It's all speculation at this point...I don't know if I'm footing the bill or if my and the rest of california's tax dollars are, I was not/haven't been notified.
Mark W
Yep, I really don't really care that much I guess.
That will be a significant bill for all those man hours and a helicopter.
Take some swimming lessons.
Think ahead a bit more.
Good luck living it down.
Mark...
I know that creek.
This is something that I would totally do but not if I was a poor swimmer
Glad you are ok...... I wouldn't be suprised if the bill for the copter is sent your way.
Hammer down next time
This is something that I would totally do but not if I was a poor swimmer
Glad you are ok...... I wouldn't be suprised if the bill for the copter is sent your way.
Hammer down next time
I'm very aware of the power of water. Again... we cross deeper, faster and wider than that routinely.
I guess it must have been moving a lot faster than the effect of your rig sitting there seems to show.
Did it shift the rig downstream? Did it eat the bottom out from under it and casue it to settle deeper while you were there?
(You were not wearing waders I assume, so that really isn't a factor is it?)
The fact that the CHP chose not to take any risk at all when they were called out for a river emergency also has little to do with the actual difficulty of wading/swimming back to shore.
BTW... 48 degrees... that is far from cold in the places we travel. Not sure if I have seen water that warm in any river we cross.
Glad that they got you out okay. Are they going to bill you for the expenses are is the state picking up the tab?
Mark...
There's a big difference between crossing a 3'+ deep river/stream that's flowing at normal capacity and one that's 3' or so due to flooding/increased water volume.
When I went through water survival school, the water was 50*. They had us in wetsuits. 48* is plenty cold enough to send you into hypothermia if you spend enough time in it.
While I agree with you I would doubt there is anyone on this board more familiar with cold, fast moving, deep water crossings than Mark. If you read the Toyota Trails issue that has his avatar as the cover you'll see what I mean.
Wow this story sucks.. to be plastered all over the news, etc.
Now if you would have made it just think no one would ever know of your glorious victory
Instead you ended up with what happeend.
Dry that sucker out and just keep rolling
Now if you would have made it just think no one would ever know of your glorious victory
Instead you ended up with what happeend.
Dry that sucker out and just keep rolling
