Builds What the Foo is this??? (6 Viewers)

[2fpower]

2x Brake Disc Bosch 0 986 478 698 for Toyota | eBay

 

[jcardona1]

Any idea how your numbers for your rear suspension compare to a stock 80? Just curious.

Here's my numbers on the stock rear suspension with 5"+ of lift. It's pretty awful with 15 degrees of oversteer.

@2fpower are you going to try and triangulate the lowers? Would probably improve your numbers a bit.

 

[2fpower]

@cjmoon stop by last night and helped me understand a lot of this.

 

[2fpower]

Here's my numbers on the stock rear suspension with 5"+ of lift. It's pretty awful with 15 degrees of oversteer.

@2fpower are you going to try and triangulate the lowers? Would probably improve your numbers a bit.

I am not the brains behind these calculations. plan is to use the stock lower control arm frame side mount; therefore also use the stock rubber end, so not sure we can triangulate much. Here is the details.

 

[White Stripe]

So with those anti squat numbers does the rear lift when you are trying to climb a rock slab or hill? Or does it seem pretty neutral?

Here's my numbers on the stock rear suspension with 5"+ of lift. It's pretty awful with 15 degrees of oversteer.

@2fpower are you going to try and triangulate the lowers? Would probably improve your numbers a bit.

 

[jcardona1]

So with those anti squat numbers does the rear lift when you are trying to climb a rock slab or hill? Or does it seem pretty neutral?

I haven't noticed any issues in that regard. From what I've read, antisquat numbers in the 50~100% range seem to be the norm for a crawler.

 

[2fpower]

@cjmoon Here is what I was trying to describe last night, and pics I found that I can't tell if they have welded on those angled spacers.

These seem to have much more metal they are going through. Not sure how they got that.

 

[2fpower]

bouncing to the front, but I just saw this pic of the front upper mounting point.

 

[HoJo 61]

awesome info. so looking at a:
04/1996-11/2008 TOYOTA LAND CRUISER KZJ9*,LJ9*,RZJ9*,VZJ9* 43-03: FRONT AXLE HUB
toyotal part number 43512-60120

In those threads they mentioned they had to use in finland the same brake caliper to meet their rules, so I will plan to move to a 80 series caliper. I am interested in the e brake caliper they found that would work. Have not seen part number for that yet.

Correct.

Looks like the most common parking brake has been driveshaft mounted disk and hydraulic caliper, like Wilwood or VW Transporter.

@cjmoon Here is what I was trying to describe last night, and pics I found that I can't tell if they have welded on those angled spacers.

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These seem to have much more metal they are going through. Not sure how they got that.

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Do you mean these parts?

These are just torqued down with wheel studs + bearing adhesive between parts to prevent rusting.
They also machined axle hubs to match the cone tightly.

Here's is something to spend time on.

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[2fpower]

I love the ih8mud community. I have thanked @woody several times for starting this place.

So @RDC76 shot me a pm about those actuators, and immediately researched and found how to make them. If you have seen his bumpers, you know the quality and attention to detail he does.

Just awesome that people are willing to help each other.

Cheers,

 

[2fpower]

@HoJo 61 Yes, those are the pieces that I was talking about, as from looking at the part, there is not enough material there to machine out the hub flat.

 

[2fpower]

@HoJo 61 looky there.... that is what I needed to see hydro assist. Already have hydro assist on foo, so good to see how someone else did it.

 

[2fpower]

@HoJo 61

You do understand that with those threads you posted, I am not going to get any work done at the office today!

Look, Foo's finnish cousin. Love the paint scheme.

 

[2fpower]

@HoJo 61

I can't thank you enough. I tried to register on that site yesterday, waiting for the Mod to approve me.

Hope to reach out to the community and find a source to do the machine work and get the pieces needed on the hubs.

Given that I am from the US, I assume that I will get the EXTREME VETTING process.

 

[HoJo 61]

@HoJo 61 Yes, those are the pieces that I was talking about, as from looking at the part, there is not enough material there to machine out the hub flat.

He said, he only took very minimal amount of material off, barely scratched the metal surface under paint. Just enough to make it flat-ish.

@HoJo 61

I can't thank you enough. I tried to register on that site yesterday, waiting for the Mod to approve me.

Hope to reach out to the community and find a source to do the machine work and get the pieces needed on the hubs.

Given that I am from the US, I assume that I will get the EXTREME VETTING process.

No problem, glad to be able to help.
Feel free to ask for help as needed.

I believe they will approve you in 1-2 days.

 

[2fpower]

bouncing to the front, but I just saw this pic of the front upper mounting point.

So I posted a pic or @Apounder rig to document the front upper control arm mount and it disappeared today. I hate when pictures disappear.

 

[2fpower]

found a tiny copy of it.

 

[2fpower]

Comparison of the mount from ruffstuff, and a cardboard mocked up version to get the mounting point back some, per the specs. The cardboard version would push the point back about 2 inches, giving us longer upper arms Y link. The center of the axle is where the cardboard piece is shown.

 

[SammyT96LX450]

@2fpower I have to change the name of my build.....

 

[cjmoon]

@jcardona1 is that your front or did you 3 link that rear? that's an interesting way to get around the gas tank for sure. 2fpower and i's goals after discussing options was to try and keep the frame side as stock as possible as future plan's may include different cruiser to get a full cab again for creature comforts. So I played with the stock frame mounts and moving the axle side around to hit a reasonable number. The stock numbers are attached, for 35's and 2.5" lift. bigger lift and tires only make the numbers worst which is what most people deal with and don't have much complaint.

so with my proposed set-up slightly higher anti-squat but roll center and over steer greatly improved the longer upper link helps get there. there's never a perfect set up but believe this one will be right for 2fpower and what he is trying to achieve. with 40's and portal axles the wheel base will be stretched 2" with the mounting points moved back on the axle as far as we can to lengthen the upper link to achieve it.