My thoughts too. I'm thinking despite the downward force, the Trail Tailor mounts are so stout the frame or fasteners would probably fail before the lollipop. Just speculation though.
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My thoughts too. I'm thinking despite the downward force, the Trail Tailor mounts are so stout the frame or fasteners would probably fail before the lollipop. Just speculation though.
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Agree. When the flatbed guys tie the truck down, the suspension doesn't even compress (or barely compresses), so it's not like they are really cranking downward on them. Also...when those points hit rocks, there's a heck of a lot more force on them and and all they "give" is a bit of paint.
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I agree with all that - in principle. However, I was focusing on the practical aspects of the problem at hand - how would a tow truck driver attach to my LC? Based on experience, and as shown in the extract of the Owner's Manual I posted above, I am assuming a hook of some sort would be the most likely means of attachment. A hook will NOT fit in the TT recovery point - there is too much "mass" around the 1.25" hole to allow a hook to fully seat in the hole. The Toyota tie down point on the other hand, has an oval opening, is much thinner, and therefore has much less "mass" around the opening. A typical hook will fit easily into the Toyota tie down where it would not fit in the TT recovery point.
In no way am I debating (or doubting) the strength of the TT recovery point. Also, I am in no way suggesting that the Toyota tie down is in any way as strong or stronger than the TT recovery point. What I decided was the Toyota tie down is more appropriate for use as a tie down point, and it is strong enough for that application.
It makes sense to me.
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The nice thing is...you get to do whatever pleases you. 
I'd just rather prepare for clearance than for tow trucks. heehee
Honestly though, ton of cars have neither tie-downs nor recovery points...so I'm pretty sure flat-bed guys do just fine regardless.
I'd just rather prepare for clearance than for tow trucks. heeheeHonestly though, ton of cars have neither tie-downs nor recovery points...so I'm pretty sure flat-bed guys do just fine regardless.
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The nice thing is...you get to do whatever pleases you.
Honestly though, ton of cars have neither tie-downs nor recovery points...so I'm pretty sure flat-bed guys do just fine regardless.
axle/frame straps is what I use....
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Detailing the rear today. Finished up the Hi-lift mount and pop pins with positive swing out stops.
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I would not use a soft shackle on a recovery point with corners like that. The MBR for that rope to maintain decent strength is 5X diameter.... just don' want to see you get hurt.
Or how about with my preferred Bubba Rope 7/16" Gator Jaw soft shackle:
These soft shackles continue to impress - 32,000 lb breaking strength, lightweight, won't ding stuff up - not good for connection to chains, but any kind of rope, webbing, etc. it works great. Amazon has them here: Amazon.com: Bubba Rope *Newest Version* Green & Black GatorJaw 7/16 Soft Shackle: Automotive
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It's hard to see in the photos, but the reason I had to re-paint the TT recovery points is that I had to chamfer the edges on the holes:
As they were delivered I agree, the edges were much too sharp. As they are now, and with the Cordura protective sleeve that I added to the soft shackle (originally made as a rock protector for synthetic tow ropes), I think I'm OK; but I do appreciate the concern and will keep an eye on it.
Anyone know if those ARB recovery points are squared or chamfered for use with soft shackles?It's hard to see in the photos, but the reason I had to re-paint the TT recovery points is that I had to chamfer the edges on the holes:
As they were delivered I agree, the edges were much too sharp. As they are now, and with the Cordura protective sleeve that I added to the soft shackle (originally made as a rock protector for synthetic tow ropes), I think I'm OK; but I do appreciate the concern and will keep an eye on it.
Edit: sorry for the highjack
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They are not. They'd need to be done post-purchase and repainted like gaijin did on his TT's.
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Long days and working at about 75%. Rear is on the "pretty up" bench as Andrea calls it.
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T, the rear is detailed out and I'll get it installed tomorrow, clip the mudflap for the front trim ends and get everything else loaded up and head your way on Monday.
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Build is done.. Taking it back to UT to Tony tomorrow morning and then back to the normal grind... I have another 200 rear to build for @codyaustin5 and that will be it for 200 bumpers for awhile. This week has been busy with international orders. I accepted a contract for a LARGE quantity order for one of my AU vendors. As of now, if everything goes as planned the next available bumper build slot would be late October/ early November.
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I pushed a little more today since I had Tony's rig to measure off of for the base bumper for @codyaustin5
Hard tacked and will finish it up in a few weeks.
See you in a few weeks!
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Hard tacked and will finish it up in a few weeks.
See you in a few weeks!
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Tony's 200 was dropped off, reviewed and we're back home.
It was a fun build and a very special thanks to Tony for letting me use his rig for R & D for the bumpers and a few other new items.
Coming soon:
Belly skids
Shock guards (able to accommodate larger bore shocks)
Locking tailgate storage lids
Bumpers will be on an occasional custom build, but not until Oct/Nov time frame to start.
Got the 200 back to Tony before driving through marble to golf ball sized hail. Just got finished tucking away all of our cruisers in the shop, warehouse and garage because the green cloud of doom has almost caught up to us again here at home.....
J
It was a fun build and a very special thanks to Tony for letting me use his rig for R & D for the bumpers and a few other new items.
Coming soon:
Belly skids
Shock guards (able to accommodate larger bore shocks)
Locking tailgate storage lids
Bumpers will be on an occasional custom build, but not until Oct/Nov time frame to start.
Got the 200 back to Tony before driving through marble to golf ball sized hail. Just got finished tucking away all of our cruisers in the shop, warehouse and garage because the green cloud of doom has almost caught up to us again here at home.....
J
