Not all of our 60s are stock. Mine is in the 5800 range too.
Tow vehicle/trailer/camper for transporting a 60? (1 Viewer)
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Not all of our 60s are stock. Mine is in the 5800 range too.
Obviously my truck isn't stock, but I weigh 6000# without me in it.
Take a 4300# FJ60, add larger tires, larger rims, bumpers, skidplates, sliders, full size spare and gear for a wheeling trip, then you're in the mid 5k# range easily.
Take a 4300# FJ60, add larger tires, larger rims, bumpers, skidplates, sliders, full size spare and gear for a wheeling trip, then you're in the mid 5k# range easily.
I guess you're right, none of that stuff is light and it adds up pretty quickly. Still, adding almost a ton of stuff to a 60 seems like a lot of extra strain, but then again, they're built to handle it. One of my old 60's had a 4bt mated to an H55F via a ranger torque splitter... 4 inch lift with 33's... I never had it weighed but I reckon it was in the 5k range as well, and it did not have bumpers or a winch on it. If I were to do it all over again I'd put Volvo portals under it.
my understanding was the published curb weight was dry. no fuel or lube.
Add 150-170 lbs for fuel/lube, but even if the weight includes those items:
+100-200lbs tires, 20/per tire in most cases.
+2-400, and maybe more for custom front/rear bumpers and winch, rock rails.
+50ish for a roof rack
+70-200 for extra fuel (in jerry cans or long range tank), water can (5 gallon can of gas and 5 gallons of water = over 70lbs)
+50-several hundred for a jack, shovel, food, ice chest, camping gear, chains, recovery straps/other recovery gear, saw, sledgehammer, air compressor, climbing gear (40lbs for a few ropes and a good rack), etc, etc
So a 4300# stock truck with the commonly seen mods goes to
4400 bigger, lt tires
4600 bumpers & winch
4650 roof rack
4720 5 gallons of gas and 5 water
4800+ some recovery gear, chains, sleeping bag, extra clothes, ice chest full of ice, drinks and food, and some toys- climbing gear, rifle, horseshoes, etc.
Add 150-170 lbs for fuel/lube, but even if the weight includes those items:
+100-200lbs tires, 20/per tire in most cases.
+2-400, and maybe more for custom front/rear bumpers and winch, rock rails.
+50ish for a roof rack
+70-200 for extra fuel (in jerry cans or long range tank), water can (5 gallon can of gas and 5 gallons of water = over 70lbs)
+50-several hundred for a jack, shovel, food, ice chest, camping gear, chains, recovery straps/other recovery gear, saw, sledgehammer, air compressor, climbing gear (40lbs for a few ropes and a good rack), etc, etc
So a 4300# stock truck with the commonly seen mods goes to
4400 bigger, lt tires
4600 bumpers & winch
4650 roof rack
4720 5 gallons of gas and 5 water
4800+ some recovery gear, chains, sleeping bag, extra clothes, ice chest full of ice, drinks and food, and some toys- climbing gear, rifle, horseshoes, etc.
Its real easy...for one my truck is not stock.. given the changes and tires and then you weigh the truck...and it equals X weight...there is no estimation invovled. What do 35 inch mud tires weigh, a winch two aftermarket bumpers a 35 inch spare tire....etc...etc.
the triailer I have weighs 3k...HOW DO i know that .... I weighed the trailer. 3 plus 5800 equals approx 9k
Go check the weight rating of your tow vehicle plus the weight rating of the trailer hitch ball and your receiver combination.....then you can see what you can pull / tow based on mfg. many stock 1/2 tons of various brands....can't tow what they are towing per the mfg notes... read the published data on your truck and the labels on the hitches and recivers...etc for most average 1/2 ton stuff
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I'm seeing specs for the K2500 Suburban that say towing capacity is between 7400 and 7800 depending on model... this seems to be right at the expected weight of a 10k trailer and built FJ60... is this a problem or is there enough of a buffer built into these specs to be safe?
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Ok, I'm gravitating towards a Suburban, Tenth gen (2000–2006) or Ninth gen (1992–1999) in the 3/4 ton flavor. The wife actually likes the idea of a big SUV vs a pick up... for family functionality purposes!
So... any thoughts on the 2 flavors? Seems they have either the 7.4 L (454 cu in) big block for the earlier or the 6.0 L (364 cu in) for the later ones.
So... any thoughts on the 2 flavors? Seems they have either the 7.4 L (454 cu in) big block for the earlier or the 6.0 L (364 cu in) for the later ones.
I have a 2012 1500 with a heavy duty tow package and it is rated to just over 9k if I remember correctly. Stock is just over 5k so that seems about right for the 3/4 tons. If you are not pulling everyday and added air bags and 10 ply tires, I am sure the 6.0 is capable. It would be worth the research to see if their is a hd tow package in those models.
We had a few different SUVs between the suburban/yukon and we will never go back to anything else.
If you can find it a 7.3L or v10 excursion will probably be about the same price range, get the same fuel mileage but have better towing capability. I am not sure if they have an IFS so sacrifice would be ride.
We had a few different SUVs between the suburban/yukon and we will never go back to anything else.
If you can find it a 7.3L or v10 excursion will probably be about the same price range, get the same fuel mileage but have better towing capability. I am not sure if they have an IFS so sacrifice would be ride.
I don't have experience with the GMC versions, but my ford 460/7.5L tended to get better gas mileage than other peoples 6.xL if I kept it at 70-75mph and didn't mash the accel when accelerating. ~15mpg on the 460. The 460 would run out of power about 2k rpm, which sometimes was an issue pulling into the wind or on a steep hill. But it would start a load rolling or pull it over uneven ground very nicely.
I don't know if that translates to GM motors.
I don't know if that translates to GM motors.
Yeah. I shift at 1k often. EFI and it has a 3.55 rear end. It turns about 2100rpm at 75mph. Towing it drops down to 11-12 on the flat.
in suburban land you have in 3/4 ton flavor (for the most part) 99 and older 454 and 350, newer up to around 2007 or so...6.0 and 8.1, then after then with newer until they quit making the 3/4 ton suburban you have the 6.0 engine.
Get a 3/4 ton suburban or pickup, you can find tow guides on google... its been a while since my 02 2500 suburban was sold but I was thinking it could tow around that 7500. A 10K trailer is going to weigh around 2.5 to 3K if its a metal deck...so you add the weight of the loaded up FJ60 (you should with yours) 3K plus the weight of the loaded 60 = total weight towed, but you have to account for the weight in the tow vehicle too.
if your truck weights around 5K and the trailer weighs 2.5 k...?
Get a 3/4 ton suburban or pickup, you can find tow guides on google... its been a while since my 02 2500 suburban was sold but I was thinking it could tow around that 7500. A 10K trailer is going to weigh around 2.5 to 3K if its a metal deck...so you add the weight of the loaded up FJ60 (you should with yours) 3K plus the weight of the loaded 60 = total weight towed, but you have to account for the weight in the tow vehicle too.
if your truck weights around 5K and the trailer weighs 2.5 k...?
I'd go at least '96 to get the Vortec stuff. The earlier TBI stuff is kinda weak (the old cube van I towed with had a TBI 350 - was usually going 45-50 on I-80 on the hills).
Nick
I have an '03 Yukon XL 3/4 ton with the 8.1, 4x4, tow package, 4.10 gears, etc... I believe its rated to pull 12,000 lbs and payload is over 2800lbs (2WD's have a payload of over 3100lbs). Mine has about 145K on the ticker and still runs strroooonnnng. I pull a 6500lbs trailer with it and it's no problem. After towing the same trailer with a 1/2 ton truck, and then upgrading to a 3/4 ton truck, I will never tow anything with out a 3/4 ton ever again. The Yuk feels stronger than the '14 2500 Ram (CTD) I downgraded from. I know thats probably not the case, but thats how strong the Vortec 8100 feels. And if you need more power, I hear the Black Bear performance tuners do a great job and have fantastic customer service. If you need more power, contact Raylar Engineering, they have some bat**** crazy mods for it. 
The 3/4 ton 'Burb's and Yuk's are cheap, cheap to insure, cheap to fix, reliable as an anvil and seem to run forever. Just check craigslist, see if you can find one with under 200k miles. I might be biased.
Some day I want to do the Duraburb (er, Durayuk) conversion... If you are not familiar, do a google search, turn that 'Burb into a 12 second rig.
Oh, one more thing, they are kind of a unicorn, but they also came with Quadrasteer for several years, you can tell by the clearance lights on the cab and rear fender flares (or by the jacked up price from the owner.) Good luck with your search.
The 3/4 ton 'Burb's and Yuk's are cheap, cheap to insure, cheap to fix, reliable as an anvil and seem to run forever. Just check craigslist, see if you can find one with under 200k miles. I might be biased. Some day I want to do the Duraburb (er, Durayuk) conversion... If you are not familiar, do a google search, turn that 'Burb into a 12 second rig.
Oh, one more thing, they are kind of a unicorn, but they also came with Quadrasteer for several years, you can tell by the clearance lights on the cab and rear fender flares (or by the jacked up price from the owner.) Good luck with your search.
Here's what I tow and haul with, 5500 Dodge. It's the 6.7 diesel with the six speed stick. A little over rated for you, but it doesn't ride bad at all and gets @ 15 mpg with the 4.44 gears. You could put a camper on the back and pull all your toys.
