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I usually consider myself the king of maintenance, grease my u joints every oil change, check all fluids every 10,000 miles or so, etc etc. I am revoking myself of that title after this... the troopy started stumbling over itself yesterday and I had no idea what was going on, it wouldn't even drive up a hill. Got my trusty zupup and a buddy of mine to tow it a mile home. I had no idea what it could have been, figured air got in the fuel system somehow and then I realized, I haven't changed my fuel water separator/fuel filter ever. Like I put it on when I was 18 years old, before I drove across all of America, and now I'm 21 with a whole different engine installed in it.

Well needless to say that was the issue as you will see in the pictures below. I am amazed it didn't fully stop the fuel flow sooner
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Put a new filter on and my issue has been solved, plus quite a bit more power I haven't had before. I'm assuming the multiple "worms" I pulled out of the filter element are algae if I had to guess. Or who knows maybe someone put worms in my gas tank 😆



robmobile73 said:
Can't say enough good about having a manual glow plug switch. Momentary toggle switch low left of your steering wheel on the dash which activates a ford/generic cheap starter solonoid sending 12V or 24V to the glow plugs. You'll figure out how long and when you need to hold the toggle switch on before starting. For the 3b in temps above 70F don't need to use it at all. Colder just hold it 5-10 seconds if the vehicle has sat for more than 6 hours without running. 24V to 12V plugs will probably work just start at 2 or 3 seconds on before cranking. You can also "split the batteries" for a non constant load like this on 1X vehicle start per day it will probably be just fine. Some direct injection engines do not need glow plugs at all for normal temperature operations.
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I ordered some 24v glow plugs last December, I have them installed to hold the compression in obviously but I am just not skilled when it comes to electronics. I'm sure I could do it, but when your dad is an electrical engineer... might as well wait for then next time I go home and have help with it, it'll be 10x better than I could ever do on my own. For now the block heater works great
 
is howes any good?
 
theglobb said:
I usually consider myself the king of maintenance, grease my u joints every oil change, check all fluids every 10,000 miles or so, etc etc. I am revoking myself of that title after this... the troopy started stumbling over itself yesterday and I had no idea what was going on, it wouldn't even drive up a hill. Got my trusty zupup and a buddy of mine to tow it a mile home. I had no idea what it could have been, figured air got in the fuel system somehow and then I realized, I haven't changed my fuel water separator/fuel filter ever. Like I put it on when I was 18 years old, before I drove across all of America, and now I'm 21 with a whole different engine installed in it.

Well needless to say that was the issue as you will see in the pictures below. I am amazed it didn't fully stop the fuel flow sooner
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Put a new filter on and my issue has been solved, plus quite a bit more power I haven't had before. I'm assuming the multiple "worms" I pulled out of the filter element are algae if I had to guess. Or who knows maybe someone put worms in my gas tank 😆




I ordered some 24v glow plugs last December, I have them installed to hold the compression in obviously but I am just not skilled when it comes to electronics. I'm sure I could do it, but when your dad is an electrical engineer... might as well wait for then next time I go home and have help with it, it'll be 10x better than I could ever do on my own. For now the block heater works great
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Algae. Once it starts it will grow and grow till it fills your tank. If your new filter doesn't give you the desired performance for long enough before it clogs again, you need to drop the tank and clean it out.

If your glow plugs can't wait: Sheet metal screw genaric starter solonoid(tractor supply or other parts store) to firewall. Small Negative ground wire to sheet metal screw. Small positive wire to momentary switch on dash back to large copper terminal where wire connects solonoid to 24V positive terminal on Battery. Second large wire terminal on solonoid connects to glow plug terminal/positive bridge connector. Pull toggle up sends 24V to solonoid which throws connecting 2X large terminals and sends power to your glow plugs. Solonoid will switch 24V no matter no problem. If you use 24V to operate the solonoid, some day it will eventually burn out.

Amazon product ASIN B0BLS6VTQ9
Or you could spend an extra $4 and get something like this: www.amazon.com/s?k=24V+starter+solenoid&crid=2P2XS6MPZRFW6&sprefix=24v+starter+solenoid%2Caps%2C87&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

Start with a 5 second hold on the momentary switch when you haven't started the troopy for 6 hours or more and it's less than 60 degrees out. Really cold might take longer or need to hold it while you're cranking as well.
 
I cant imagine a 4bd1t needing glow plugs at 50ish degrees. A direct injection diesel should start down to 0c without glowplugs.
Although it depends on the engine, it’s not a bad thing to help it start easier. My kubota tractor needs glowplugs even at 60+, however it starts just the same at negative temps and it has lower hours.
 
Well the troopy started reading some pretty low voltage, went to AutoZone and had them test my batteries. Lucky me they failed 13 days before my 3 year warranty expired! Figured that was my issue, NOPE. Well maybe it was one of them but I think my voltage regulator is tweaking out. Im reading an average of 24.5 on brand new batteries. Then randomly it'll spike up to 26 or even 27v for a while but eventually go back to 24ish. The temps here went from 60f two days ago and now its 22f... yikes. Whenever it warms up a bit I'll start to mess with the voltage regulator, I know there's ways to adjust it, guess I'll read through a manual to find out how to
 
I might have one that fits my 88 BJ74.
Let me know if you want to me check.

It is true that external regulators can be adjusted of old enough.
 
I converted my hj75 troopy from externally regulated to a higher output and better internally regulated. Not too bad of a job. Takes maybe 30 minutes.
 
It looks like it has contact points for On and Off.
If possible the points should be sanded or filed flat... take off the high spots and any carbonized crust.
 
not related to whats going on with my voltage regulator but spotted a Toyota Skidsteer on marketplace... thought I spotted a 3B up in there, asked him for a photo of the engine and it is!!
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2 oil fill caps?? Injection pump primer on the fuel filter housing? Sorry just thought this was very interesting lol


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coldtaco said:
Does it have an external regulator? I don’t think you can mess with an internal regulator (?). Did you use the alternator that was originally from the troopy or the one that came with the engine? What are the chances you are running both a external and internal regulator?
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Yes is external, Im using the stock toyota 3B 24v alternator on the Isuzu engine, I wonder what would happen if you did have an external and internal regulator at the same time?
jblueridge said:
I might have one that fits my 88 BJ74.
Let me know if you want to me check.

It is true that external regulators can be adjusted of old enough.
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Thank you! If I cant adjust it I'll let you know
jblueridge said:
It looks like it has contact points for On and Off.
If possible the points should be sanded or filed flat... take off the high spots and any carbonized crust.
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Sounds like it, I'll grab some Emory cloth before I dive into it.
 
Did they bring Toyota skid steers to USA? And did they come with 3b engines?
 
forklifts have 3b's too, everytime i go to the lumber wholesaler here i hear 70 series sounds coming from the lumber yard 😆
they are on propane tho
 
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