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Just checked the Summit page for the Vintiques wheels, (12-670604) and they are showing that you can't order them and they don't know if they will be available. Still showing up at JEGS and at the Ventiques page.
 
And here is why I’m eventually moving up to 16’s or 17’s. The other day 5 of us ran a trail in Panamint Springs. Was not an event, just the 5 of us, but when they do have an event, this trail requirement are one locker & 35 in tires. I am running 33’s & when aired down to the mid teens I really have to watch my ground clearance.

Here are some before & after pics of my 15 in wheels after this trail. 33x15 BFG Muds are actually barely 32 inches. Once I get some 16 or 17 in wheels I can get some BFG Muds with a true 34 in size. With the lift I now have I don’t believe I can run 35’s.

Here are a couple of pics of my wheels after the beating they took and then after I hammered them back into usable shape. After the hammer repair, the wheel is not pretty…but the inside bead is useable. For now I grabbed a spare wheel I had in the garage.

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After a few hammer blows. The inside bead is good.
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Here is a 3/30/23 update. Now have 16’s on my 60. I removed these 16’s from my 40 & put them on my 60. I now wheel harder with my 60 than I do with my 40 so the cleaned up 15’s will be fine on the 40. These black 15’s are Jackman Wheels if anyone remembers them. At the time they were the bomb diggity.

Installed a new set of BFG Muds 255-85-16’s. I had these 16’s made by Stockton Wheels over 20 years ago. Cleaned them up a bit, made sure they would fit the front disk and all is good.

Glad to have 16’s on the 60🙏🙏🙏



I live in a small town, after a bunch of phone calls the tire shop could not get these BFG’s
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The next day I called Tire Rack, drove to their Reno, Nv. Warehouse & picked them up myself
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Those look fantastic. I really like how the 255's drive. It took about 25k for the tires to get loud enough to be annoying.

You made a good choice.
 
I just received my Dexstar 16" conventional wheels. My plan was to make a pilot so I could cut the centers out with a hole saw. I bought the Milwaukee 4.25" 'hole dozer' hole saw last week, but when I unboxed my wheels and started figuring out my jig I set the hole saw onto the raised center lip of the Dexstar and it fit tightly, but just a press fit by hand. I picked up the wheel and shook it upside down and the hole saw stayed put. I thought to myself, " that's my pilot". Next was how to hold the wheel stationary while I attack it with my gear drive right angle hole hawg driving this hole saw. I grabbed a 33 x 9.50 x 15 on a mini truck wheel and bolted the 16 on top of this with two long 1/2" bolts. Very stable platform. Keep in mind I will be 70 in May and I'm 5-6 and 150 lb, but I'm a tough old man with a good grip and a low center of gravity. (And I live on an island with no machine shop) The tooling followed the lip like it was made for this. The cut was very smooth and nicely centered. Took about 2 minutes to drill. I had to brace my knee against the long pipe handle on the drill and hold on, but no drama. The vehicle pictured is my '79 FJ55, fully intact under the 47 ford sheet metal. I have 33 9.50 15s on the front and 255 85 16s on the rear, both sets are same OD but at least 20 years old and I just got another flat on one of my splits. As usual I'm rambling. Still have to load today's wheel pics.....

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Update... This little orange brush thing did a miraculous job of prepping the powder coat for paint. I bought a set of 3 different grits at napa a few years back. Since I am most often dealing with with rusty metal, they never impressed me. I have prepped literally hundreds of wheels for paint in the past 50 years, but never seen anything else that gets into the complex shapes so 'nice and deeplike' as this does in less than 5 minutes a wheel. I decided to test this 'classic gray' from krylon. I'm not trying to match factory color, as there's no such thing as factory anything on this old mutt. Edit:
Since this steel wheel tech thread will most likely be looked at for years to come, I'd like to add that I decided to measure the thickness of the steel used in the center of this dexstar as compared to a riveted FJ40 wheel I had nearby. The area between the lug hole and the stiffening web has a slightly domed surface so I set my caliper in only 1/4" for my measurement in both wheels. The Dexstar measured .187" and the Toyota measured .159". The difference in thickness is quite apparent to the naked eye. The other 2 wheels should arrive tomorrow and 255 85 16s on Wednesday.

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Looking at getting some 16 x 7” rims from BCI in Australia, wanted to run 255/85/16 but they only seem to be mud tyres and prefer an AT. Anyone run a 285/75/16 on a 7” rim?
Recommended minimum rim size is 7.5”
Here’s a pic of the rims.
Can get the Hilux steel wheels here in 17x 7.5” but think they will rub on the steering.
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The other option was to run steel 80 series rims so l could swap wheels between vehicles but they also rub on the steering and need a 5mm spacer. Like these wheels thou 16x8”

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I see that I have yet to post some pics with the tires mounted. I am very happy with this combination. I'm sure most tool rental joints have a big right angle drill you could get for a couple of hours. E-Trailer stocks these wheels and really, this was a very easy way get high quality, factory made 16" wheels.

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I’ve been posting this in my build thread but thought I would also post here if it will help someone else looking for wheel options.

I’ve been wanting to go to steel wheels and tall skinny tires since I built my pig but unfortunately something else kept getting in the way and I’ve had to wait until recently to make the switch.

I had originally planned to go to a 16” wheel but all of the 35”X10” tires I was finding where 17” and 17” wheel options are limited to just a few. Not sure how any of this was going to look I pick up a set of US wheel Rat Rod in 17”X7” with a 3.5” back space and planned to add some type of clip for the Toyota hubcaps once I got the wheels here. After ordering several types of clips and none of them working out I just chucked up my wheels in my rotary table on my mill and drilled them so I could attach the caps with screws. The screws are less than ideal but it was quick and easy got me on the road.
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To order these wheels I had to call Summit Racing and give them the specs I wanted, the part number was 69-8712-spec. These wheels can be ordered in 15"-16"-17" in various width and back spacing.

Called Summit and US Wheel today to order and follow @J Mack 's lead on these alternate size steelies with the hub caps. Found out US wheel won't drill the 16" 69 series steelies to 6 x 5.5 lug pattern. Was planning on doing 255 85s, but thats now out. So it's either 15" or 17" apparently. I'm thinking 17s on a 40 will look like too little sidewall on a 33" tire, but @wngrog 's 80 with 285 75 R17s looked pretty nice! Sidewall height is almost identical. Also wanted to share, discount tire offered to order the custom US wheels for me and quoted $115 each for 15" x 6.5".

 
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Trying to avoid the icon rubber band look going with 17s on a 40, but, as others have mentioned, I feel like tire availability/options is much better on 17s vs 15s

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I've read this whole thread and now more confused than ever...If someone would be so kind to advice, this is what I am after:

I have a 1995 80 Series with a 3" lift. Would like to go for a tall and narrow look with steelies. Toyota 17s with maybe 235/85s. BUT, I am not a friend of spacers...So is there any steel wheel (16 or 17") that I can use that would keep the factory offset without the need of spacers?

Alternatively, if I use Tacoma/FJ Cruiser 17" wheels without spacers and I took the fender flares off would it look strange? I believe some have done this.

Finally, a good source for the right steel wheel for an 80?? I see a lot of steelies on the internet, it's tricky with the offset, hub size, etc.

Thanks for any help!! Chris

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BTW, these are being offered close to me. Tacoma 16" for $75 each. Or better to get 17s?

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Those look awesome. Might look funny with fender flares.
You said you wanted tall and narrow. Thats the best you will find

They are fine with flares.
 

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