Rear Bumpers Nowadays....

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I've had my 97 80 series for 20 years and have always wanted to put a rear bumper with a tire carrier on it and never got around to doing it. I'm getting ready to put new tires on so I thought this would be a great time to get that bumper with a new tire hanging from it. Well.... turns out, I can't find anywhere near the selections for the bumpers that could be found the last time I looked. I can still get an ARB, but the Slee bumpers seems to always be out of stock. If I recall, Iron Pig Offroad made one that I really liked but it appears they are not making them anymore. I would prefer a tire carrier and a ladder on it.

Since I'm not finding very many, does anyone know of some that are available and I'm just not seeing them in my search? Thanks!

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@Delta VS pretty much covered the suppliers out there. I opted for a 4x4Labs for a number of reasons but I have always disliked the latching mechanism. I recently just bought a second one so the latching mechanism isn't a deal breaker by any stretch. Also I would encourage you to understand the downsides of a swing out before you commit. Access to the rear of the vehicle becomes a real pain if you daily drive to the stores etc. But if these things are not an issue then pick your favorite design and have at it.
 
Also I would encourage you to understand the downsides of a swing out before you commit. Access to the rear of the vehicle becomes a real pain if you daily drive to the stores etc. But if these things are not an issue then pick your favorite design and have at it.

Agreed.
They are a necessary (sometimes) evil.
Particularly if your better half has to deal with opening and closing them.
 
Agreed.
They are a necessary (sometimes) evil.
Particularly if your better half has to deal with opening and closing them.
This is one of the areas our bumper is a step above. Our secure latch mechanism is good for a better half to open, but will stay shut until someone actually intends for it to open. The new one has a built in ejector as well as improved geometry.

As far as constantly opening swingarms for access, if you know you don't have any trips coming up, it's a trivial task to remove ladder or tire carrier, then the arms themselves clear the upper hatch. Easy access for grocery getting.
 
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As far as constantly opening swingarms for access, if you know you don't have any trips coming up, it's a trivial task to remove ladder or tire carrier, then the arms themselves clear the upper hatch. Easy access for grocery getting.
Now that's an interesting perspective, I never considered that. I've always run capable tires on my trucks and have never had to use a spare. Around home, I think you're right, the risk is minimal.

That 42-gallon rear-mounted auxiliary tank from LRA just got more tempting just got more tempting.
 
This is one of the areas our bumper is a step above. Our secure latch mechanism is good for a better half to open, but will stay shut until someone actually intends for it to open. The new one has a built in ejector as well as improved geometry.

I built a rear bumper for a previous cruisers.
I set the pivot stub axle up so it was canted 5⁰ out toward the side of the vehicle.
This helped the swing out swing open, and the weight of the wheel meant it stayed resting in the open position at 90⁰ from the vehicle.
I'd seen so many people wrestling with swing outs if the were parked with a minor side slope in the wrong direction. Trying to hold swing outs open, and get tail gates opened, and stuff out of the back. Or, shuffle the car around so the slope of the car/ ground let the swing out rest open.

5⁰ angle on the stub axle worked brilliantly, except, it meant you were pushing the wheel up slightly to close it. Sometimes this was a disadvantage.
I'd do the same again, but maybe settle for 3⁰ angle
 
Now that's an interesting perspective, I never considered that. I've always run capable tires on my trucks and have never had to use a spare. Around home, I think you're right, the risk is minimal.

That 42-gallon rear-mounted auxiliary tank from LRA just got more tempting just got more tempting.
Mine came with the smaller LRA (27 gal IIRC), and the swing out tire and can carriers on a Kaymar bumper. While I liked the look and functionality, it started driving me nuts that they were pretty much always "in the way" for my non-daily, but regular use. I was lucky enough to try the Slee bumper pivot caps and have them fit...now I have the Bellfab interior mount so I always have a spare handy, and the ability to easily pop into the rear anytime. If I really need the extra space inside, one (or two) nuts and the arms are back on (and 50+ gallons of fuel on board in the tanks/cans!).

BTW, nice truck OP!

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I am a big fan of DeltaVS rear (and front) bumper. The swing arm latching takes almost no physical effort, even with a tire (assuming level ground).

There is also a latching mechanism to keep the swing arms locked open.

Lately, I have been in and out of the rear of my LX450 multiple times/day while I work on the interior and it is never an issue opening and closing the swing arms.
 
I built a rear bumper for a previous cruisers.
I set the pivot stub axle up so it was canted 5⁰ out toward the side of the vehicle.
This helped the swing out swing open, and the weight of the wheel meant it stayed resting in the open position at 90⁰ from the vehicle.
I'd seen so many people wrestling with swing outs if the were parked with a minor side slope in the wrong direction. Trying to hold swing outs open, and get tail gates opened, and stuff out of the back. Or, shuffle the car around so the slope of the car/ ground let the swing out rest open.

5⁰ angle on the stub axle worked brilliantly, except, it meant you were pushing the wheel up slightly to close it. Sometimes this was a disadvantage.
I'd do the same again, but maybe settle for 3⁰ angle

Our new bumper has optional gas struts to open the swingarm for you, similar to your implementation (if I’m understanding you correctly)

 
Our new bumper has optional gas struts to open the swingarm for you, similar to your implementation (if I’m understanding you correctly)



Excuse the rough sketch. 5⁰ tilt axis

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Latch on your looks good

I intended to set mine up with 2 stage burst proof bear claw type latch. (Same acton as car door latch) didn't happen before that car was gone
I hated the typical over center type latch most swing outs use
 

the 4x4labs bumper is amazing but pricey. I put one on a truck two years ago. really impressed with the quality. good powder coat, great departure angle improvement, love the integrated hitch, swingouts are nice. The only caveat, which may follow others, is if you crank down on the latches, they can be difficult to open and close.

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dissent has modular swingouts... you can bolt on what you need. change later. add later. and they look great.
 
@Delta VS is easily the nicest and best engineered. I’ve seen them in person now, and as I said in a previous thread, they are 100% my first choice and recommendation. You can’t go wrong with a 4x4Labs or Dissent either, and of course Slee is the OG, though you’re right, they (SLEE, since apparently this needed clarification) seem to not be focusing too much on the 80s anymore. That’s another discussion.
 
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@Delta VS is easily the nicest and best engineered. I’ve seen them in person now, and as I said in a previous thread, they are 100% my first choice and recommendation. You can’t go wrong with a 4x4Labs or Dissent either, and of course Slee is the OG, though you’re right, they seem to not be focusing too much on the 80s anymore. That’s another discussion.
Dissent released a high clearance rear bumper for the 80 with the year? How is that not focusing on the 80.

They don’t beed to redesign the wheel every few years as long as they did it right the first time
 

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