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In that pic you'll notice I have $50 craigslist Yakima load bar mounts with actual plumbers pipes. And for carrying my cayak 2 miles to the put in it's fine.

Likewise my front labs bumper has great clearance and is excellent for crashing into things.

The swing out impacts your quality of life every time you open the back, so if it's a PITA you're going to constantly regret it. There's a reason why so many people have given up on swingouts altogether and just live with the spare tire inside.

@Delta VS has absolutely nailed the latch system as of gen 1, no doubt get 2 is perfection. I'm tight but I think that's worth paying for.

Edit to add- if I didn't need the space inside (or have a super sniffer wife) the bellfab carrier plus labs rear bumper (no swingouts) would be a really nice setup too.
 
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Love every option mentioned in this thread. I went with dobinsons for price and availability and I wouldn’t change a thing.
 
In that pic you'll notice I have $50 craigslist Yakima load bar mounts with actual plumbers pipes. And for carrying my cayak 2 miles to the put in it's fine.

Likewise my front labs bumper has great clearance and is excellent for crashing into things.

The swing out impacts your quality of life every time you open the back, so if it's a PITA you're going to constantly regret it. There's a reason why so many people have given up on swingouts altogether and just live with the spare tire inside.

@Delta VS has absolutely nailed the latch system as of gen 1, no doubt get 2 is perfection. I'm tight but I think that's worth paying for.

Edit to add- if I didn't need the space inside (or have a super sniffer wife) the bellfab carrier plus labs rear bumper (no swingouts) would be a really nice setup too.
That’s what I wanna do. But wife doesn’t like the tire so close to whoever is in the second third row seat.
 
That's a ridiculous config with redundant options.
Ain't nobody optioning rotopax on their Jerry can holster on their ladder cover on their flip out grill on their tow strap pocket . . . With Baja lights 😂

I had a $5,000 armor budget. I got a single swing out Delta bumper, White knuckle sliders and a DIY Labs front bumper for my 8274. Still need trail Taylor skids.

I'm an OCD psycho about rattles and my wife doesn't do well with levers and gadgets so spending a little more on the back side was worth it for me but you don't have to be cocaine rich to buy the Delta stuff if you option it reasonably.

I also sliced a big hole in mine for the slee receiver so it's pretty sweet that the Gen. 2 makes that easier.

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how long ago was that. You're not getting a delta rear bumper and sliders for 5k, let alone adding in a front bumper of any sort.

a DVS rear bumper raw, and raw white knuckle sliders are 4700 without taxes and shipping.
 
Early 2022 with mud group buys. Labs was diy.
Checked receipts- I spent $5800 with freight.

My armor would be about 25-30% more these days, kinda like my groceries or my house.

If you're on a budget the labs stuff is killer.
 
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For further reference, DeltaVS front (full grill guard) AND rear bumper with dual swing outs, and a tire mount for $5,612 shipped in early 2021.

Today, that same combination would be close to $8,400. Inflation is a bitch.
 
we all know you get what you pay for. I've supported Slee for years and he makes some great products. But the torch has been passed and now I think the DeltaVS stuff is the top dog. I just swapped my front bumper for a Delta and I'm very impressed. So when the rear bumper upgrade comes, it will be Delta.

as for that quote that people say is ridiculous, so are some of the options you can get on a Lexus or Mercedes, but to have the ability to add what you and your budget allows I think is perfect. In other words, don't knock it just because you can't afford it.
 
The swing out impacts your quality of life every time you open the back, so if it's a PITA you're going to constantly regret it. There's a reason why so many people have given up on swingouts altogether and just live with the spare tire inside.
Or we're just too cheap to buy a full rear bumper :). Every time I thought about buying a rear bumper for my 80, I ended up putting the 3k or so toward another cruiser! I'll probably end up building something evenutally, or maybe get a DIY labs kit.
 
So in Feb 2021, I paid approx. $1.9k +shipping for this particular (fully assembled) 4x4Lab setup... today, its about $3k +shipping. Why there's a 50% markup over (exactly) 4 years I'm not sure but comparatively speaking, its still somewhat affordable if you're still in the market. Pro's of this is its solid and well designed... the notches for the Hi-Lyft are a nice touch. The one Con (as others mentioned,) is the latch is a bear to open/close... my wife can't do it. A longer handle would easily correct it but I guess that's something I'm going to have to customize myself one day. I open/close it nearly every day so its no biggie for me and I'd still highly recommend it for the price but the Slee latch looks like a better design (albeit for $1K more but I believe it comes with the ladder where mine was an option).

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Folks like @Outsane are proving they can make it down any trail

It would be interesting to see one in action on trails like the Rubicon or Pritchard canyon.
I know that my good friend with a similar built 80 ditch his swing outs on his 4xlabs rear bumper as he was getting hung up on obstacles and having to winch where I was driving right up with my minimalist high clearance home made bumper.

To be fair my rig is built to tackle the hardest trails.
I didn't see a response from @Outsane to this but since you asked about the Rubicon, I'm sure Lee can give some real world response since he's now done the Rubicon with the Delta bumper since this post of yours. Seems like it handled it fine but he'd have to speak up as to how much (or little) it got hung up.
 
I didn't see a response from @Outsane to this but since you asked about the Rubicon, I'm sure Lee can give some real world response since he's now done the Rubicon with the Delta bumper since this post of yours. Seems like it handled it fine but he'd have to speak up as to how much (or little) it got hung up.
Years back when you were trail leader at CM On gold Bar Rim both my friend and I were on the run he did not make it up the water fall as he was hung up on the spare tire and can holder both swing outs. He couldn't back up or go forward and had to winch.
I was able to one shot it right up, it's be a lot of years but if I recall correctly my rig was the only one to make it up with out winching.
It took a long time to get everyone up.
 
I have taken the @Deltavs bumpers through the Rubicon 3 times now, slick rock a couple, Johnson valley a little and rolled through Cruise Moab a bit too. Fordyce is on the lets get crazy list. So far i haven't been past the first river crossing before we limped back a rig with summer teeth in the rear diff. The delta bumpers have handled it all fantastic.

Moab is the only place I have found that a super high clearance bumper helps. The angles and grip are ridiculous. The high clearance is good for the super steep approach. You can probably find this kind of stuff at SanHollow too, I haven't explored much there yet.

This kind of rock climbing doesn't compare to anything else for me. Angles are crazy steep, that I just don't find on other trail areas.

The delta bumpers have never stopped me from being able to make it up an obstacle.

I winched up waterfall on the trifecta run. We had a rig with a broken leaf pack stuck in the hole far right just up the waterfall and we had a long night of repairs ahead to make it home at 3am. I opted for easy way up in that situation. I think this was 3 years ago...

@Broski is one hell of a driver in a great rig, I don't compare in any way.
 
I have taken the @Deltavs bumpers through the Rubicon 3 times now, slick rock a couple, Johnson valley a little and rolled through Cruise Moab a bit too. Fordyce is on the lets get crazy list. So far i haven't been past the first river crossing before we limped back a rig with summer teeth in the rear diff. The delta bumpers have handled it all fantastic.

Moab is the only place I have found that a super high clearance bumper helps. The angles and grip are ridiculous. The high clearance is good for the super steep approach. You can probably find this kind of stuff at SanHollow too, I haven't explored much there yet.

This kind of rock climbing doesn't compare to anything else for me. Angles are crazy steep, that I just don't find on other trail areas.

The delta bumpers have never stopped me from being able to make it up an obstacle.

I winched up waterfall on the trifecta run. We had a rig with a broken leaf pack stuck in the hole far right just up the waterfall and we had a long night of repairs ahead to make it home at 3am. I opted for easy way up in that situation. I think this was 3 years ago...

@Broski is one hell of a driver in a great rig, I don't compare in any way.
Not to get off topic but how have the Delta sliders held up on all those trails? Any issues?
 
Years back when you were trail leader at CM On gold Bar Rim both my friend and I were on the run he did not make it up the water fall as he was hung up on the spare tire and can holder both swing outs. He couldn't back up or go forward and had to winch.
I was able to one shot it right up, it's be a lot of years but if I recall correctly my rig was the only one to make it up with out winching.
It took a long time to get everyone up.
Yeah, you and I were the only ones to drive it that day. After I drove up I winched 17 rigs (I think), everyone in the group except for you.
 

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