@Delta VS is easily the nicest and best engineered. I’ve seen them in person now, and as I said in a previous thread, they are 100% my first choice and recommendation. You can’t go wrong with a 4x4Labs or Dissent either, and of course Slee is the OG, though you’re right, they seem to not be focusing too much on the 80s anymore. That’s another discussion.
Hey thanks for your feedback @Somebodyelse5 but if you look at my post, I was clearly referring to Slee. I also said RIGHT THERE IN THE POST that Dissent was a fine choice.
I was just about to paste in the link to Higgy’s when I saw your post. I like the clean, minimalist look and doubtless functionality. Higgy’s are probably bumpers that few people know about.
That said, I’m shopping only for front bumper because I run, and have run for ten years, a 4x4Labs rear, dual swing out bumper with tire carrier and triple can carrier. Mine was a weld it up yourself kit. I’ve beaten the tar out of it on rocks these past ten years and it never complained. It probably offers the best clearance of them all.
Mine came with the smaller LRA (27 gal IIRC), and the swing out tire and can carriers on a Kaymar bumper. While I liked the look and functionality, it started driving me nuts that they were pretty much always "in the way" for my non-daily, but regular use. I was lucky enough to try the Slee bumper pivot caps and have them fit...now I have the Bellfab interior mount so I always have a spare handy, and the ability to easily pop into the rear anytime. If I really need the extra space inside, one (or two) nuts and the arms are back on (and 50+ gallons of fuel on board in the tanks/cans!).
The replacement LRA tank for the 80/LX 450 is 37 gallons, about a 50% increase in capacity vs stock. The 42 gallons rear auxiliary tank would give you a total of 79 gallons, very tempting for some of those long trails. But then you need a rear tire carrier.
The back of my truck has a sleeper/drawer conversion so an inside spare takes away too much space if you need to sleep two. However, it is also tall enough so that so long as the hatch comes open, that provides most of the day-to-day functionality I need with the swingouts removed.
The replacement LRA tank for the 80/LX 450 is 37 gallons, about a 50% increase in capacity vs stock. The 42 gallons rear auxiliary tank would give you a total of 79 gallons, very tempting for some of those long trails.
Ouch, filling that "tanker" up at $4/gal is over $300! Bring that credit card for sure. And watch it off road - poke a hole in either tank and Exxon will be showing up to drill baby, drill. My 24 gal LRA that has doubled my range is bad enough. However with my Kaymar rear bumper, no modification was necessary to install it. Not so with a 4x4 Labs - modification is necessary to install a LRA aux tank.
Ouch, filling that "tanker" up at $4/gal is over $300! Bring that credit card for sure. And watch it off road - poke a hole in either tank and Exxon will be showing up to drill baby, drill. snip
Another way to look at this. A LRA tank is a little north of $2000. Almost anyone's rear bumper with options is going to run $3000 or more. If you can afford that combination, you can afford the fuel to fill it when needed.
I ran a 50 gallon replacement tank on my FJ55 back in the day. It had a decent skid plate, but what was sorta reassuring is that relatively early in ownership, some idiot missed the fact I was stopped at a red light and totaled his AMC-poopbox on my rear. The Toyota wagon design with that being backed up by the rear x-member - just as it still is in the 80 series - held up well giving me confidence |I wasn't toting a bomb around when upgraded to the 50 gallon unit. My neck has never been the same.
Your caution about choosing well if you need a new bumper to accommodate an auxiliary tank is well taken.
Delta vs is a huge initial buy in but completely worth it. I have well over a thousand miles on corrugated road with a 37" tire attached and it still operates as new. I also have a set of their rock sliders.
DeltaVS rear bumper doesn't interfere with an Aux Tank located where the factory put the spare.
Old photo with 42 Gallon Aux Tank installed. Aux tanks use a much thicker gauge steel compared to Toyota stock tanks. They are their own skid plate. You can still puncture anything...
I had a 90 litre main tank, and 90 litre sub tank in my 105series. (47 gallons)
In 2010, fuel was at record high prices.
Putting 180litres in at once stung at $2/litre.
I Australia, you fuel up, then walk inside to pay.
The guy in front of me said " pump 2". ( my pump)
I said to him, " I'll buy you a beer if you pay for pump 2"
I explained that while he was putting $40-50 into some little hatch back. My bill was $320.
He was horrified!
I have a ton of parts from all three and they're all phenomenal and stay by their products. It's hard to choose a favorite. We are blessed to have such reliable vendors here.
As others have said, understand the swingout hastle before you start welding and cutting. I love my 4x4 labs, but while i like my dual swing outs, my wife find them a big PITA--however she understands the need for carrying the spare and the peace of mine of 10gallons of gas. I cant imagine a single arm swing out, but im sure it has its advantages. PO installed the bumper and im certain it was ENTIRELY for the look, becasue the install job was done very poorly.
Here's a thought on whether you should run a spare swingout or not. If your rig is mostly used as a DD or transportation on highways, paved roads and city streets, probably not a good idea since rear access is a priority. Also those that have purposed their rig for gnarly terrain and use an interior mount for best departure angle because they have the interior room. But for those packing heavy and use their rig mainly for weekend excursions or overlanding - there's where it pays off to not take up valuable interior room, plus you're not into the hatch and tailgate as much. Same logic for a 2nd swing out for a ladder or whatever. Lastly, I would strongly recommend not storing your spare or extra full fuel cans on the roof rack for safety and COG issues, not to mention the exposure to back injuries hoisting heavy objects to and from the roof. Roof storage should be for lighter bulky gear that takes up a lot of room.
The replacement LRA tank for the 80/LX 450 is 37 gallons, about a 50% increase in capacity vs stock. The 42 gallons rear auxiliary tank would give you a total of 79 gallons, very tempting for some of those long trails. But then you need a rear tire carrier.
The back of my truck has a sleeper/drawer conversion so an inside spare takes away too much space if you need to sleep two. However, it is also tall enough so that so long as the hatch comes open, that provides most of the day-to-day functionality I need with the swingouts removed.
Yeah, should have mentioned that my LRA is where the spare usually hangs...2 sizes available, and mine is the smaller of the 2 that still gives great ground clearance but hauls a lot of fuel if you need it in total with the OEM tank. Drove her home cross country and the fills were painful at about $200, but on the flip side, I got over 500 miles on a fill, so I had to stop to pee before stopping for gas...usually the other way around on an 80!
I love all of the bumpers mentioned by others, and you really need to select based on your needs (and actual availability)...I do really like having the option to pull my swing outs off and safely cap the spindles with the Slee covers. Best of both worlds, but honestly, I haven't put them back on since removal and I've done a few multi-day weekend trips and still have enough space with no rear seats (2 seater only) for all of my gear and tent even with the 35" tire inside. That said, I have the trailer now that was in my last post, so inside space for the long weekend trips is a non-issue if I'm dragging that behind now (but I'll need the extra fuel on board for sure!).