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After work was done getting in the way of wheeling, we got back to the trails. Our core group was the bronco, a Cherokee, jk(?) on 40’s, stock razor turbo and my 40. Kinda eclectic, but everyone. Was right minded and capable
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The Cherokee decided he needed 37’s and picked some up on marketplace. Big heavy ones at that.
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Before the tires went on, he assured us his Dana 35 axle came with chromoly shafts. And it wheeled pretty impressively. Until it didn’t
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Stock shafts and ujoints don’t like 37x14.50x17 tires. It grenaded the ball joints, U joint and both the inner &outer shaft ears. Truly impressive, At this point the Jeep was pulled to the side and a dash to the part store was planned. We had started up Triple 7’s but accidentally turned onto Joint Effort trail. 777 was challenging, but doable for everyone. Joint Effort was beyond my rear only locker and the Razor. The other three made it over the ledge , but only the JK did the next obstacle.

The next morning, we returned with the parts and commenced to fix the XJ. Couldn’t get a replacement axle, so we stuffed some towels in a latex glove and jammed that in the axle tube to keep the oil in. With the locker engaged at least the passenger side is working. The rig is drivable again. We got to watch two groups of buggies hit Joint Effort while we fixing the Cherokee. Super impressive. I think everyone in our group was doing the mental math of a build. I’d love to build one, but living so far away it’s hard to justify.
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From there we migrated to Double Sammy. This was more in line with the capability of my cruiser and everyone was enjoying ourselves. Slow and technical, but doable. I was backing off to reposition when I dropped the rear passenger wheel off a small ledge. Over I went on the passenger side now. Fortunately, I had removed the windshield after tweaking it earlier and the body damage is minimal. The apron is deformed a bit, but I think I can pop it out. Fender was far from perfect anyway.
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Funny enough some other people were there to observe the recovery. One of them videoed the event. He sent it to me, but the quality wasn’t that great. About an hour later, I said something about this to the 12yro and he said there was a clip of it on TikTok already. Sure enough my rig is now on TikTok.

Half hour later, XJ decided it didn’t like 3wd and grenaded the passenger side ujoint and the steering linkage(again). Additionally, it was breaking the upper control arm bracket and tweaked the track bar. Did I mention the 37’s were heavy? This rig is actually pretty good on 35’s, but those big tires showed all kinds of weaknesses.

Another trip to the parts store while the rest of us played in the sand and went to the Top of the World. Too windy for pictures, but pretty beautiful.

Armed with new parts, the XJ was made drivable again and dragged up to the Chute where it was able to limp out. Along the way the Razor lost a ujoint and limped out at 3mph. We all met up for dinner that night and laughed at ourselves. It was agreed to be a great day.

On the last day it was agreed that we should probably stick to lighter trails so we could safely make it out again. The wind had picked up, so no one wanted to go to upper trails and get sand blasted. We tried Wayne’s World, but the dune seemed to have shifted over the trail. While the full throttle attempts were fun, no one was really set up for it. Back to the Double Sammy, since we had skipped the beginning the day before. Nothing else broke and I stayed on the up and up. There were challenges and a good pucker factor dropping into the gully. I thought I was going to need a winch on the climb out, but the others had shown me the smooth and slow line.
I love the wheeling Sand Hollow. It’s different than Moab. Both are great and other worldly in their environments, but they wheel differently. Hard for a rookie like me to explain. Mostly, I love how close everything in Sand Hollow is to each other. In Moab I feel like half the day is spent getting to and from the trail.
 
Looks like it's time for some slightly wider axles and some links lol.

Looks like a good time!
 
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Looks like it's time for some slightly wider axles and some links lol.

Looks like a good time!
i pine for 20” more wheelbase and links, but I have to many things in line for that to happen. 36’s looked pretty sweet, but I’d need more lift and….
 
We are taught that when we make a mess, we need to clean it up. In an earlier post I alluded to this mess. Apparently, if your put an FJ40s weight on the corner of the windshield frame, it will not hold said weight. Some how the glass didn’t break though
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A normally square shape will turn into a parallelogram. See I did learn something in math class. Or was Spanish?
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Now science tell us that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you push on the right corner, it will turn a parallelogram into a rectangle.
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(I’m far from a photographer, but I love the light in this picture)
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Well sort of- I think I ended up with a trapezoid. Far from good, but good from a far? It’ll have to do, until I find another windshield frame ( @shmukster may have one for me) This corner is pretty boogered and my metalworking skill isn’t going to make it pretty again.
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There’s a few other wrinkled areas, but the rollcage hides some of it.
This experience has me debating on tube fenders as well. Once again they are good from a far, but far from good. If I can get access to a tube bender, I’m game to try it out. I prefer the oem fender, but function over form says tube is stronger.
 
In other news I believe the front air locker is working now. I tore the axle down again and replaced the internal air line washer(?). The old air line got sucked into the gears and as a result was a bit short. This I believe was due to the included bulkhead fitting snapping on initial installation and me thinking I could plug the hole and wait until I got a new fitting. Nope. Made the diff oil a pretty shade of copper though. Gears looked fine.
The bad/good news is I also found out the brand new axle seal behind the rotor/hub is toast. The spring portion was mangled. The rest of the seal looked ok, but I’ll order another. Not sure how this happened, but it’s on the list.
One more issue from the St George trip is an electrical demon that keeps cropping up. I think I have it narrowed down to a bad relay, but haven’t had time to fix it yet. Possible two minute fix and I can’t find the time- lane.
 
Still waiting on the right relay for the starter, but I got it running in the mean time.
Pulled the steering wheel to work on turn signals and horn. I assumed that the contacts were worn. Now, I’m not sure. Neither are showing signs of life after cleaning them up. Found out I didn’t have the LED flasher installed anymore, so that’ll have to wait.
The horn has me puzzled: I can’t seem to find the horn wiring on the 1974 wiring diagram. [for whatever reason my loom coloring seems to line up with 1974, but my vin plate says March 1973]. I have what I believe should be the connection for the relay (missing), but the wires are black (2) and red(1). This is in the right place for the relay that should contain the relay.
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While I know I need to find the relay, I should be able find continuity between the horn switch/fuse block and the pictured connector. I can’t seem to find and other connectors that would be in the right place. Am I on the right path?
 
Looks like your colors are way different at the plug. Either it's the wrong plug, or wrong place.
 
Looks like your colors are way different at the plug. Either it's the wrong plug, or wrong place.
That’s my thought as well, but I can’t seem to find any other likely plugs. The harness is more or less unmolested, so it must be there somewhere. Looks like I had the right type of connector though, so that’s nice…
I’ll check my old fender for the relay. A blind squirrel might just find a nut.
 
Not a lot of exciting stuff happening, but small improvements are happening.

First up is I pulled the cluster and redid the connection for the speedometer/odometer. It worked before the body was pulled for paint, but I didn’t get it inserted all the way. It had been nonfunctional for the last year or two, always just out of reach in the to do list. It’s still wrong (~5mph off), but it’s working.
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I have a weird obsession with the dash being stock, while the rest of the truck seems to be open to “upgrades”. To this end, I’ve bypassed my Amp meter and I’m toying with the idea of a Volt meter. The LS alternator is rated well over the stock amp meter rating. This wouldn’t be truly stock, but I thought there were some out of later LCs that fit in its place. As I have a voltmeter on my switch panel, this is low on the list…


The other work of note is I replaced the fuse/relay block. I had one of the “build your own” style blocks under the hood for the SBC/LS electronics and I had dove into it head first. Results were mainly good, but lately the contacts for the starter relay wouldn’t stay in place. While I monkeyed with it and got it working a couple times- it never stayed good for long. I bit the bullet and bought a new prewired block to solve this issue. Relays are nice and snug now. Hopefully it lasts.
While I was in there, I created a relay circuit for the LS pcm. I’ve had a parasitic drain ever since I swapped the engine in- it was fine with the SBC. I finally spent the time to narrow the draw to the engine controls and now it’s powered through a relay switched by the key power. So far battery seems to bit in good shape, so we’ll call this a win.
 
I really tried to find a cheaper option, but finally bit the bullet and got a new set of tires. Ouch. Unfortunately, the used market around here is mostly 20” sizes, so new it was… I had a small hope of getting some beadlocks, but no dice on any correct with the backspacing/lug pattern. I liked my BFG m/t, but these geolanders came in $60/tire cheaper.
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As expected, road noise is much improved over the worn out BFGs. Offroad review will have to wait until I have time.
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They are the exact same size as the old ones, but I’m just kissing the leaf spring bolt.
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A couple twists on the steering stop should correct this issue. However, it’ll have to wait for another day, as I’m taking the boy up to Kalispell, Mt got the weekend.
 
I really tried to find a cheaper option, but finally bit the bullet and got a new set of tires. Ouch. Unfortunately, the used market around here is mostly 20” sizes, so new it was… I had a small hope of getting some beadlocks, but no dice on any correct with the backspacing/lug pattern. I liked my BFG m/t, but these geolanders came in $60/tire cheaper.View attachment 3403453
As expected, road noise is much improved over the worn out BFGs. Offroad review will have to wait until I have time.
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They are the exact same size as the old ones, but I’m just kissing the leaf spring bolt.
View attachment 3403452A couple twists on the steering stop should correct this issue. However, it’ll have to wait for another day, as I’m taking the boy up to Kalispell, Mt got the weekend.
Shoot me a pm if you're passing through the Bitterroot this weekend.

Also be advised of potential fire related delays on 93 around the Flathead, I'd recommend taking the eastside of the lake up through Bigfork.


Unless you're driving up through Seeley-Swan, if so enjoy the views!
 
Shoot me a pm if you're passing through the Bitterroot this weekend.

Also be advised of potential fire related delays on 93 around the Flathead, I'd recommend taking the eastside of the lake up through Bigfork.


Unless you're driving up through Seeley-Swan, if so enjoy the views!
Sorry it was too hot to stop in Missoula-100 deg.I didn’t want to melt.
I saw your post too late for routing changes. Made it up to Legacy Bike Park just south of Lakeside with no drama. Traffic is about what I expected for the area.
 
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Small victories are what I’m all about. I only have one speed on the wipers, but I have wipers. Which is nice..
Additionally, the seater heaters are working. Only took five years, but I finally hooked them up. They aren’t the hottest heaters, but they are my only source of heat, so they’ll do.
Small things but I'll take ‘em.
 
A week from Tuesday we hit the Rubicon- seven guys, four rigs. None of us have ever been on that trail, so it should be an adventure.

Final checks and mods in progress.

I know I should have done this sooner, but it was always just down the list. Cutoff wheel finally shortened the unbolts.
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The truck had a skid plate when I bought it, but some were after the first tear down it disappeared.

In the past my occasional trips to the desert were sans protection. I was consoled in the knowledge that the transmission and transfer were cast iron. The sandstone had left light marks, but nothing I feared. (This may have been a false notion but it got me through.) with the Rubicon being more of the granite variety, I felt it was time.

I would prefer steel for the belly pan, but all we had in the scrap pile was aluminum.
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[Anyone spot my mistake in the pic above? ]

I did get to use the diy brake and plasma table at work. The bending of aluminum was about 50/50 success rate. The inner bends worked nicely, but both outer bends cracked. I was using heat to help, but apparently didn’t get it right. At any rate I got to try the aluminum wire in the mig. Lots of trial and error. While not pretty, they’ll do the job.
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I’m still perfecting the methods for the fabrication tools at my disposal. It’s all trial and error- with a heaping handful of Utube tutorials. Results are not the prettiest, but I do believe we’re making progress.

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There’s more to do, but life beckons. Hopefully this is a successful trip.
 
Rubicon was an adventure to say the least!! Had some drama just leaving home with a bad starter in the tundra and a dog with an upset tummy, but I made it to Truckee. After thrashing ourselves on Mtb trails (how has it been so long since I ride Downieville?!?!). We started the rubicon from the west end. One member of the party had to make a flight, so we decided an out and back on the trail was the wisest solution.
With a favorable weather forecast, I pulled the bikini top and dropped the windshield. In my last wheeling trip, the twisting kept pulling the hood/bib pads out of their place, so this time I left the hood latches “open”. I can’t remember where I read this, but sure enough I didn’t loose the pads this time. Other than that, I had 5 gallons of gas in reserve and a bevy of tools.

Reports of the trail being rough, but drivable held true. It’s rocky and will eventually rattle anything loose that isn’t secure- I have wear marks through the bedliner from where my gas can was secured. I won’t go into the creaks and clunks as I made my way to Cadillac hill…
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The crew is familiar to other trip reports. The early Bronco, a mudder style k5 and a jku. (The jku was a replacement for the Cherokee in St. George that was spitting out ujoints) All them fairly well built rigs, capable of failure.
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So we made our way around helicopter pad(?) and down Cadillac Hill. Creak, groan and clunk. There are moments I envy the more modern rigs and how quite they seem ride, but I do love the truck I built so I continue on at my pace. I had elected to go last- this is helpful since I tend to be a bit slower and just catch up when the others get to a tough section. As I turned out of Cadillac hill I caught up to the group…
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The Jeep had ripped apart its track bar mount. I have to admit, I was relieved I wasn’t the first one to break down. This took a while to get going and a few beverages were consumed by the peanut crowd. There are times to lend a hand and there are times to stay out of the way.
Eventually, we made it down to SMOG camp and broke the rigs down for the night. Here is where our packing lists failed us. No cooking oil or salt!!! As a recovering chef, I hung my head low. Fortunately, the cast iron pans were well seasoned and we made it through the night (&breakfast) albeit a bit bland.
(Oh and we also ran out of adult beverages…. The N/A drinkers had stuffed the coolers so full that the nonN/A drinkers thought we were covered. Crisis? No, but a guy does look forward to certain things at the end of the day.)
Next day, the confidence in the Jeep was high and the decision was made to head to Loon Lake and drive the highway back to the tow rigs. Screw it we were going to do the whole thing- albeit backwards. The Jeep led the way as we made our way past Rubicon Springs and I had a brief chat with Tony Twiddle(?). He wondered why I wasn’t with the rubithon the week before. I shrugged and said I’m not a fan of large crowds. He seemed to understand and wished me luck.

Next up was big sluice. We made it through the squeeze rocks- only an issue for the Jeep and K5. About a hundred feet later the Jeep was busted again. Same bracket. Pit crew took their positions and started in again. Fortunately, the first time it broke made it a faster repair the second time. After consulting with a couple other people headed in the other direction, we decided we better turn around and head back the way we came. Now the Jeep was mid-pack and taking the easiest lines.

Everyone had some moment on Cadillac hill where they struggled, but overall nothing a little spotting didn’t get you through. It’s always amazing the spot that’ll cause one vehicle to have trouble and the next just skates through. Then vise versa. The K5 took a couple attempts to make one spot, but I sales through it. The following obstacle I had the trouble.

The final drive out was slow and torturous-The jku was trying not to break anything else. I followed him out for insurance sake. We did have a bit of rain that kept dust down and cooled me off.

All in all everyone had a great time. The Jeep is looking into a beefier bracket and I’m going try and solve some rattles. Also, I just learned I have access to a hydraulic tube bender!! I have desires!!!

The scenery is beautiful and breathtaking. I wish I had the camera skills to do it justice.
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Just been enjoying the beautiful fall weather. Took the kids up to the church camp slide. It’s about three stories high and all metal. They do not make them like that anymore.


On the way out, spotted some likely heating fuel. Headed back with the ol’ ford trailer. I usually take the tundra, but I was inspired by the pics @Tank5 had posted last week. Not bad for a couple hours work.

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This was the first time I had left the property with the trailer. Wasn’t sure how it would do, but it’s got some advantages over the tundra. It’s so much easier to load- perfect height for my sore back. I might have to get it registered and figure out some tail lights. Oh and safety chains would be a good idea…
 
Safety first
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I know this is childish. I did it to keep it from rolling around on the drive home. And then saw what it looked like. I chuckled to myself and decided to share with you all.

Magchloride is coming, so cruiser days are numbered…
 
Quick wake up from the hibernation for some help unloading the trailer

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Once it was off the trailer I pulled the trailer sideways with the winch, so the tundra could easily make it out of the tight spot I had gotten it into

It was such a nice day, we decided to jump over to the next canyon to walk the dog. We definitely need more snow, but it was nice to take the cruiser for a spin on back roads.
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Well for xmas this year I got exposed to Covid. Work has a strict policy that says I can’t come in until I test negative. So more work on the Ferd with the cruiser. Hauled the rotten cab and bed to the dump after harvesting anything of value. Cruiser made light work of loading the bed onto the trailer.
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While I was at it, I finally threw away the old 3/4 tub cruiser tub. I have been holding onto it with the idea of turning it into a trailer. It hurt to throw it away, but it was so far gone, it would not have worked. So since I was in salvage mode anyway, I cut out the old 4wd symbol, gas opening and unbolted the remaining seatbelt.
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The seat belt is full of “patina”, but maybe it’ll work for someone’s patina restoration. The gas opening is in great shape and I have no real us for it. If someone pays the shipping, I’ll throw it/them in the mail.
 
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