Builds Project Snowball ❄️ 85 FJ60 Cummins 4BT/ HX-30 SUPER/ NV4500/ SOA (4 Viewers)
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Hojack
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Yesterday at work was about as great of work day as they come. A customer called who has a ski cabin on Cooper Spur which is on the NE shoulder on Mt. Hood. I arrived to meet Steve, one of the owners of the cabin. He was driving his 88’ 62 series.
Their water comes from a community well I put in several years ago down the road. This cabin is higher in elevation so the water fills a cistern tank and a has a pump that pumps the water 100’ higher up to the cabin.
After making repairs to the submersible pump. The original install had a flexible hose with hose clamps that broke causing a leak in the cistern tank.
Water flowing back up to the cabin.
This cabin is within walking distance to the Crooked Tree Tavern where they have excellent food.
The wife and I had dinner here last year after staying at the Mt Hood Bed and Breakfast. The owner said he’d work on getting some time staying there over the winter after the great job fixing his pump.
The beautiful drive back with a cloudcap forming over Mt. Hood.
Their water comes from a community well I put in several years ago down the road. This cabin is higher in elevation so the water fills a cistern tank and a has a pump that pumps the water 100’ higher up to the cabin.
After making repairs to the submersible pump. The original install had a flexible hose with hose clamps that broke causing a leak in the cistern tank.
Water flowing back up to the cabin.
This cabin is within walking distance to the Crooked Tree Tavern where they have excellent food.
The wife and I had dinner here last year after staying at the Mt Hood Bed and Breakfast. The owner said he’d work on getting some time staying there over the winter after the great job fixing his pump.
The beautiful drive back with a cloudcap forming over Mt. Hood.
Hojack
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Last Monday was our first low 20F morning and the 60 had a slow crank when starting. It started but when driving to work I noticed volts we’re slowly dropping and by the time I got to work they were at 11.8 volts. After work took out the alternator and called Napa. The gal said they’ve had issues with that alternator and it’s be covered under warranty. They had one but in Spokane, Washington
The Hungry Diesel had their low pressure lift pump on sale so I jumped on the deal. It was almost $100 off. It arrived Friday afternoon as did a new S&B air filter.
Unfortunately when seeing how to plumb it in I saw they sent me the 6BT fuel line which is opposite of the 4BT.
Picked up and got the new Napa alternator in. Started the 60 to see it was only running at 12.5volts. After some searching I found that it was the parking brake causing the issue.
Decided to remove the 90 elbow and intake pipe on the turbo and mount the air filter right on the suction of the turbo.
Driving afterwards felt more turbo response.
Upcoming upgrades will be the Hungry Diesel lift pump once they get me the correct fuel line and the Holset HX30 Super turbo install.
The Hungry Diesel had their low pressure lift pump on sale so I jumped on the deal. It was almost $100 off. It arrived Friday afternoon as did a new S&B air filter.
Unfortunately when seeing how to plumb it in I saw they sent me the 6BT fuel line which is opposite of the 4BT.
Picked up and got the new Napa alternator in. Started the 60 to see it was only running at 12.5volts. After some searching I found that it was the parking brake causing the issue.
Decided to remove the 90 elbow and intake pipe on the turbo and mount the air filter right on the suction of the turbo.
Driving afterwards felt more turbo response.
Upcoming upgrades will be the Hungry Diesel lift pump once they get me the correct fuel line and the Holset HX30 Super turbo install.
Hojack
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Filled up and decided to try Diesel Kleen fuel additive after reading great reviews.
They’ve got this grey bottle that’s a cleaner and for temps above 32F and white for winter to help prevent fuel from gelling when it gets really cold.
Mount Hood with some fresh snow up top.
Beautiful Halloween drive back home
I love the way she sits with that flag on her tail.
Beautiful family and 60. We bought our 60 when my wife was pregnant but we didn't yet know it. We raised our daughter in it, camping and daily driving. Now she's 28. Enjoy your time!
Hojack
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So I’m really wanting to head to the property this winter for camping and snow wheeling. Having one X2 930CCA battery with grid heater has me nervous about getting the 4BT started after temps that could be at or below 0F. I was thinking about adding a second X2 930CCA battery but my original battery will be closing in on 3 years in February. My buddy Travis turned me on to adding a super capacitor in place of a second battery. This seems like the perfect ticket but find little to nothing online. It hooks up in parallel with the battery, that’s it. They are good for one million cycles. This would give the starter the added boost to spin the crank fast enough to start in fridgid temps. I thought I’d throw this out there for feed back.
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I don't know much about the new capacitor trend. I run dual batteries to gain the additional amp hours for running stuff while camping and to not pull down my starting battery. If I need additional umph to start I can combine to two batteries to give me more. From my limited understanding can you do that with a capacitor type device, meaning a fridge etc off of it out camping?
Is the advantage the fact that it’s only 11lb? Otherwise I’m not getting why you’d do this in lieu of a second battery?
Hojack
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Batteries weaken and need to be replaced. With a super capacitor I’ll have the cranking amps in cold weather without draining the battery, the lifespan and duty cycles would outlast any battery. I’d also only have one battery to replace. This seems to be a new area for many.
Hojack
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I was looking at doing a dual setup with a battery isolator. Biggest reason for going with the super capacitor would be the added boost during fridgid weather. I could put a block and oil pan heater on but would need to run the generator as my property doesn’t have grid power yet. Both of those items are on the horizon but these super capacitor banks have me very interested.
Heavy current draws, deep discharge and extreme temperatures reduce battery life. I am running one Interstate AGM and have had zero issues with cold weather starts and no grid heater. I doubt I have been in single digit weather but know I have been in the teens and it started without issue.
The capacitor start is a great idea and would seem advantageous for better starting and startups of accessories or a powerful sound system that has surges in its power consumption. I am curious as to how much of a surge in demand recharging the capacitor creates. A starter is almost a dead short initially and the amps drop quickly. I would assume the Capacitor would function much like a pressure tank in a water supply system...maybe that's too simple of a comparison..
The capacitor start is a great idea and would seem advantageous for better starting and startups of accessories or a powerful sound system that has surges in its power consumption. I am curious as to how much of a surge in demand recharging the capacitor creates. A starter is almost a dead short initially and the amps drop quickly. I would assume the Capacitor would function much like a pressure tank in a water supply system...maybe that's too simple of a comparison..
I have a cable that plugs in to keep the oil warm. I run that for cold nights so it starts easily in the morning.So I’m really wanting to head to the property this winter for camping and snow wheeling. Having one X2 930CCA battery with grid heater has me nervous about getting the 4BT started after temps that could be at or below 0F. I was thinking about adding a second X2 930CCA battery but my original battery will be closing in on 3 years in February. My buddy Travis turned me on to adding a super capacitor in place of a second battery. This seems like the perfect ticket but find little to nothing online. It hooks up in parallel with the battery, that’s it. They are good for one million cycles. This would give the starter the added boost to spin the crank fast enough to start in fridgid temps. I thought I’d throw this out there for feed back.
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Hojack
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That must be this style that goes through the plug on the side of the pan.
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That's the one.
That description was helpful. It's only for quick, high demand draws, not lower constant stuff like a fridge.
This is just my opinion but I think a standard two battery set up has greater functionality. They can be combined depending what isolator/combiner is used to provide more cranking time and umph. When I've started at really low temps I've noticed I need more time at turning the engine over to get it to start (that compression engine heat thing). Combining batteries would achieve that. I don't have a grid heater but having two batteries would provide for grid heater and starting needs. Then during regular weather camping I can keep the batteries separate and use one to provide power for camp and keep my starting battery charged up for spinning the engine over.
If all you are concerned about is just being able to start up the engine in really cold temps then the capacitor style seems like it'd do great, it's definitely lighter just more expensive at the front end. If you also wanted to use power at camp from the truck I think the dual battery set up would be better. Again, just my opinion.
This is just my opinion but I think a standard two battery set up has greater functionality. They can be combined depending what isolator/combiner is used to provide more cranking time and umph. When I've started at really low temps I've noticed I need more time at turning the engine over to get it to start (that compression engine heat thing). Combining batteries would achieve that. I don't have a grid heater but having two batteries would provide for grid heater and starting needs. Then during regular weather camping I can keep the batteries separate and use one to provide power for camp and keep my starting battery charged up for spinning the engine over.
If all you are concerned about is just being able to start up the engine in really cold temps then the capacitor style seems like it'd do great, it's definitely lighter just more expensive at the front end. If you also wanted to use power at camp from the truck I think the dual battery set up would be better. Again, just my opinion.
Hojack
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I’m ready to start planning a snow wheeling trip to the Crater Lake Property. Now that I’ve had time to explore the area I’d like to take people out to see all this area has to offer. I’ve got some massive slash/burn piles I need to start anyhow, thought a campout would be a lot of fun.
If it’s too cold then the Whispering Pines Motel is a quick 15 minute drive down the highway.
The Pinnacles inside Crater Lake National Park would be a great back country trip. They are on the eastern boarder but accessible free without driving into the park itself. Backroads lead into them which Travis and I found out last year exploring.
Seeing these Pinnacles in winter would be awesome. They are not accessible in Crater Lake National Park in winter.
Hojack
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Changed my oil after work. Love the relocated oil pan drain and not getting oil leaking on the front driveline with the stock drain plug.
I’m loving the diesel kleen. I’ve noticed the 4BT run smoother and more peppy with the higher octane. Last fillup, 19.4mpg.
I’m loving the diesel kleen. I’ve noticed the 4BT run smoother and more peppy with the higher octane. Last fillup, 19.4mpg.
