Builds Project Fauxverlander 200 Series Land Cruiser Build Thread (1 Viewer)

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So things haven't been completely peaches and cream. After a 5k mile trip down and up the Baja Peninsula she started to protest. I suppose I should be thankful they all happened within a few hours of home rather than the bottom of Baja? First up was a dead battery in the Swell during the Outlaws Run in early December. Normally not worthy of even mentioning but this was different. It was a newer battery but nothing exotic, I've been holding off on finishing my dual battery system until the ARB Linx system comes out and as such I had a standard AutoZone lead acid battery installed. I went to start it on our final day of camp and the dash cluster lit up for just a brief second as I pressed the start button and then nothing. Like nothing nothing. Zero response to the ignition switch, no lights or headlights, door locks were inop, etc. It was dead in the water. We tried Jackson's battery jump pack and it didn't respond to that at all. We started trouble shooting and found out that my battery wasn't just dead, it was causing a short so it wouldn't jump from a jump pack or even Treeroot's FZJ80 with his dual batteries paired. Remember that electric solenoid rear hatch all 200's come equipped with? Well without power and I couldn't open my hatch, which mean I couldn't open my tailgate, which means I couldn't open my drawers, which means no access to my tools... great. Thankfully I was with some prepared guys and tools weren't scarce.

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At least it was parked in a shady spot

To confirm our analysis we took a battery out of Treeroot's 80 and temporarily mounted it in mine, we now had power such as dash lights, functioning ACC mode, headlights and thankfully the ability to open my rear hatch but zero crank and my start switch light wasn't illuminating. Did both my vehicle battery and FOB battery die simultaneously? Very unlikely. Jackson (also a 200 owner) and I ran through some random fixes, swapping relays, checking fuses and testing the voltage on my FOB battery, everything was in check. On a whim we pulled out the factory owners manual (who does that right?) and found that there is a reset procedure for the immobilizer system. Sure enough we followed the steps and after some time it reset and fired to life with the donor battery under the hood.

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Remember these steps

So I needed a new battery. Jason ran me into Castle Dale, an hour away. The NAPA had battery in stock and I was happy to pay them for it :D Jason wouldn't take any gas money but let me buy him a burger in town before we rolled back down to camp. We quickly installed the battery and she fired right to life, no additional reset required. On the road again...

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Next up was this this lit up dash disaster

Fast forward a few months and I'm driving over to the machine shop on a rainy afternoon, rushing to snag some parts. Just as I roll around a slight left sweeper at ~40 mph my brakes go bonkers. The dash is lit up with error lights and the ABS is modulating all over the place, much like the feeling of Crawl Control in use. I'm able to get off the road and pop the hood, thinking I'm going to see my brake master/booster purging fluid or melting, nothing. I quickly look over all of the brake hard lines and hoses and everything is tight and in tact, weird. I restart and it drives fine outside of the lights and lack of ABS (which also prevents use of Low Range by the way), so I get it home and park it. It's a few days before I have a chance to troubleshoot but my code reader indicates a few ABS errors. I reset them and all of them stay away with the exception of a LH Rear ABS Speed Sensor code, it would come back on within a few seconds of movement or just stayed on with each attempted reset. I crossed my fingers it was just a bad ABS sensor and got a pair of rear sensors ordered. They arrived and I pulled out the LH rear and found it a tad dirty on the end but nothing crazy odd. They should be running in a sealed part of the axle assembly with a sealed bearing on the outside and a seal on the axle housing side. The grease I encountered was a bit odd but I chalked it up to a bit of weeping at the rear seal and gunk accumulating in the end of the tube, think dirty gear lube.

With the new sensor installed and the wiring inspected, I reset the computer once again and crossed my fingers. Sadly I didn't even make it out of the shop before my dash was lit back up and the LH sensor code was back on. Boo! I happened to be with my buddy Brian who is a mastertech at one of the local Toyota dealerships and he offered to take a look at it on their computer and see if they were getting any signal out of the sensors, new or old. That would at least verify it was bad sensors (new one too), a wiring failure between the sensor and the ECU or something in the axle itself. He confirmed my fears after a short inspection and it was in the axle. Knowing that, he ran his bore scope into the housing via the sensors hole, something wasn't right, there were what appeared to be debris chunks in the housing. More boo! I ciompiled all the parts I would need and snagged the SST we build for separating the rear shaft and bearing assembly, not super easy task. We built the tool for the regular rear bearings swaps we do on Monica (the Canguro Racing 200) and it's since seen a bunch of use, mine was just the latest axle needing bearings.

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So, that isn't right...

We made quick work of the tear down, modified the backing plates so we didn't have to crack open the rear brake fluid and slide out the LH shaft. The axle bearing was hosed, fully failing. The design incorporates a magnetic ring as the inner face of the inner bearing, that magnet had broken into pieces and the ball bearings were rolling loosely in the void. Fortunately they can't migrate further inward towards the diff as there is a seal and baffle that would prevent it. OK, so I could get by with a single bearing assembly and a few seals on that side but what did the other side look like? And even if it looked good from the outside, what would it look like inside the bearing? I opted to just replace them both and ended up ordering both brake backing plates at the same time. Both of mine had some corrosion/rust forming between the tin brake dust cover and the caliper bracket it's spot welded too. The LH side was much worse and after a bit of poking I had a full rust hole through the plate.

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Decent RH bearing top left, the bad bearing and it's parts are on the right.

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The rusty backing plate. The vehicle is overall really clean underneath but that laminated design is rust prone

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A bucket of fun, ARB equipped diff with new carrier bearings.

While I was waiting for the backing plates to arrive I got a core rear stock diff and ARB in the hands of my diff guru, I figured it was a great time to add an Air Locker to the rear axle. With all the parts in hand it went together in a few hours, plumbed the ARB, assembled the rear shafts and filled it with fluid. The ultimate test... any lights? Zero :cool:

Thanks for taking the time to type all of this up! Looking back, would you say there was any warning signs the rear axle bearing and backing plates were failing? I wonder if there's a way to inspect or verify the condition of the components short of a pretty thorough tear down. Should the bearings and backing plates be considered a routine maintenance item above a certain mileage? Glad to see at least you're getting an ARB out of the ordeal! :)
 
@cruiseroutfit - is there an available upgraded axle front or rear that you considered when you had to replace your wheel bearings?
 
Thanks for taking the time to type all of this up! Looking back, would you say there was any warning signs the rear axle bearing and backing plates were failing? I wonder if there's a way to inspect or verify the condition of the components short of a pretty thorough tear down. Should the bearings and backing plates be considered a routine maintenance item above a certain mileage? Glad to see at least you're getting an ARB out of the ordeal! :)

Good question, it did have play when grabbing the wheel and 12 & 6 but that was only realized after I knew it was coming apart. Oddly, there was no noise or other indication it was dying back there. I'll start checking again regularly after 50-60k

Given the play we see in the Canguro 200 rear bearings after a race or two, extrapolate that to 100k miles with oversized tires and hard use... I'd comfortably put it on the 100k mile PM to-do list for trucks seeing severe use.
 
@cruiseroutfit - is there an available upgraded axle front or rear that you considered when you had to replace your wheel bearings?

Not really, the bearings are no slouches, they are quite massive and similar in design to the 100 Series. Oddly I've seen more 200's and similar generation Tundras with sloppy rears than I've seen 100's. My 2000 100 has ~230k and is still nice and tight back there, it's been used every bit as hard for a much longer duration. Odd.
 
Any concerns about front bearings? I had planned on doing my rears after Baja but the fronts are far easier, figured I'd get two (four?) birds stoned at once

They are next on my list. Fortunately they are much, much easier to do and with the right parts and tools you can order pre-assembled hub units which makes the install super efficient. We'll be offering pre-assembled units in the near future.

Fwiw again using the race car as an example, we replace those nearly every race whereas the rears may feel tight for a couple. As such we have often have a bunch of spares I may be fencing to the Mud community. I just found a shelf full of used but usable tie rod ends, fan clutches and drvielines... all things we replace semi-annually or annually. We are actually snagging the race car from the LCHM tonight after the Wasatch Cruisers event in order to kick off our post-race inspection and start tear down, more spares coming :D
 
Remember that electric solenoid rear hatch all 200's come equipped with? Well without power and I couldn't open my hatch, which mean I couldn't open my tailgate, which means I couldn't open my drawers, which means no access to my tools... great. Thankfully I was with some prepared guys and tools weren't scarce.

Doh :bang:
 
We are actually snagging the race car from the LCHM tonight after the Wasatch Cruisers event in order to kick off our post-race inspection and start tear down, more spares coming :D


Dibs on the hood! :flipoff2:
 
They really aren't something we'll retail, our business model is high volume with deep inventory items. We have them around for shop builds and local customers... of course we'll ship them too! :D

If Kurt runs out, ping me. I have one new in bag. In my rush, I failed to notice the LX(2013) already has a similar cubby box....that and the above is LC only, as it doesn't fit in the LX.

$45 shipped. PayPal or whatever works for you.

Land Cruiser "No Smokers Box" Part # 08171-60060
 
Not really, the bearings are no slouches, they are quite massive and similar in design to the 100 Series. Oddly I've seen more 200's and similar generation Tundras with sloppy rears than I've seen 100's. My 2000 100 has ~230k and is still nice and tight back there, it's been used every bit as hard for a much longer duration. Odd.
Kurt, what brand and viscosity gear oil are both your 200, and the Canguro 200 using?
 
Not my 200 (which makes it funner to push hard right?) but @sleeoffroad, Ben from Slee and I joined ARB and a handful of their tech/sales staff for a new product training and demo day. Ironically I think Christo and I have the first two BP-51's setups in the US (I installed mine in Oct 2015). It was good to see a closer look at some of the new internal mods, discuss rebuilds and tuning, etc. Plus doing this over and over is always fun :D


 
Kurt, what were the changes between the newer iterations and older ones? What goes into a rebuild, and how difficult are they to tune?
 
Kurt, what were the changes between the newer iterations and older ones? What goes into a rebuild, and how difficult are they to tune?

Changes included the rock guard setup, valve flap setup and oil. Rebuild is going to be just like any traditional shock overhaul .the logistics being the parts. They plan to setup select dealers to rebuild so we'll do them in house for our customers. With quick adjustable rebound and compression, tuning is simple, at least physically making the adjustment.
 
Glad to hear they're continuing to improve the product. When it came to tuning, I was thinking that perhaps there was tuning that could be done like with the King's and Icon's. Changing the valving and such. Thanks for sharing!
 

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