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[1MOA]

So true. As long as we're channeling SunnyT, which I happen to have on my nightstand right now, "All warfare is based on deception" might also be a good one to think on DK

 

[TTViper]

Super thankful for this great February weather. Got the new SPC uppers in, rebooted CV is back in place, new rotors while I’m at it, and of course the Aisin hubs are finally in place.

 

[Diff Kraken]

Super thankful for this great February weather. Got the new SPC uppers in, rebooted CV is back in place, new rotors while I’m at it, and of course the Aisin hubs are finally in place.
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Nice work

 

[1MOA]

Finished up the rear tailgate instal by drilling and mounting the 4 plus tail light protectors.
Only things left are running wires for the tag light and a LED reverse light I am mounting under the basket.

 

[Diff Kraken]

A kind of a disappointing 225 HP. There are a lot of variables though.

- The tech told me flat out that the dynamometer he used was a bit finicky, and that the second dyno right next to the one we used that night consistently gave readings that are 10% higher.

- There is the driveline loss of course. I don't know what it is in a Land Cruiser, but if you throw a transfer case into the mix I would think it has to be higher than average.

- The airflow to the engine is restricted because the intake was necked down to use the factory air filter housing. The tech said that was the limiting factor in tuning it.

- However, if more air had been available, more fuel would not have been available. According to the tech, the fuel supplied by the factory Toyota pump was not maxed out in the tune he achieved but it was at the edge.

So, air and fuel would give more horsepower (don't they always?). A better way of putting it is that the engine still has use for more of both. That said though, it has plenty of power in my opinion. If the dyno is off 10%, that would make it 250 at the wheels.

It cruises and sounds great. If the new owner wants to eek out another 30-50? horsepower, it could be done. But as it currently sits, it runs extremely well and noticeably better after the tune.

FYI... @Von Hayek just spotted this dyno run for a 200 and thought you might find it interesting:

Run 1: 252hp/272ft-lbs
Run 2: 258hp/282ft-lbs
Run 3: 249hp/284ft-lbs

35"+ Tire Roll-call... (200's only)

So much better! Hammered the metal just like you said. It’s like I have my truck back. So nice. Are you at all concerned with what appears to be awesome crevices for dirt/rocks to accumulate that can facilitate the development of rust in extremely undesirable areas? Pinch welds, rocker...

forum.ih8mud.com

 

[Von Hayek]

FYI... @Von Hayek just spotted this dyno run for a 200 and thought you might find it interesting:

Run 1: 252hp/272ft-lbs
Run 2: 258hp/282ft-lbs
Run 3: 249hp/284ft-lbs

35"+ Tire Roll-call... (200's only)

So much better! Hammered the metal just like you said. It’s like I have my truck back. So nice. Are you at all concerned with what appears to be awesome crevices for dirt/rocks to accumulate that can facilitate the development of rust in extremely undesirable areas? Pinch welds, rocker...

forum.ih8mud.com

That comes out about right then. 200 lost about 130hp between the crank and the wheels.

 

[Diff Kraken]

OK- Here's my latest analysis for keep my 4R Vs. buy the 2014 LX570 I was looking at Vs. get an older 200LC. This analysis reveals that, with what I value, I should not get the LX570 but I should definitely try to pick up an older 200 Land Cruiser. Does anyone else do these insane spreadsheets to make truck decisions?

Also, let me know any Pros/Cons you think I may have missed?

Yes, my plan is to bust out a spreadsheet at lunch with my mom and wife tomorrow. Yes- that's dumb. No Sun Tsu doesn't recommend logic for battle, but here I am.

 

[Svensk120]

OK- Here's my latest analysis for keep my 4R Vs. buy the 2014 LX570 I was looking at Vs. get an older 200LC. This analysis reveals that, with what I value, I should not get the LX570 but I should definitely try to pick up an older 200 Land Cruiser. Does anyone else do these insane spreadsheets to make truck decisions?

Also, let me know any Pros/Cons you think I may have missed?

Yes, my plan is to bust out a spreadsheet at lunch with my mom and wife tomorrow. Yes- that's dumb. No Sun Tsu doesn't recommend logic for battle, but here I am.

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maybe its just me but i would have to clean up the chart by putting like things on the same lines... like engines on the same line not sprinkling it all about the chart

 

[Diff Kraken]

maybe its just me but i would have to clean up the chart by putting like things on the same lines... like engines on the same line not sprinkling it all about the chart

It's not meant to be read across, but rather column by column.

 

[iptman]

Not that I'm one to talk, I bought 2 2500 Suburbans within weeks of each other (granted both together are well south of what you paid for your 4R), but I'd chill out on all this and keep the 4Runner until you move out of DC. It sure doesn't seem like your wife is enjoying this very much unless you're embellishing a little for entertainment's sake. When you move out of the city assumedly you'll have room for vehicles and you can buy a beater for cheap then take your time to sell the 4Runner, probably for more than you paid, and then take your time and open up your search radius to include Texas, Arizona, New Mexico. If this next Land Cruiser will be your "forever" vehicle that you eventually pass down to your kids, do them and yourself a favor and find one with no rust whatsoever.

 

[afgman786]

Does anyone else do these insane spreadsheets to make truck decisions?

No. It's a lot better just going with your gut and buying then figuring out if it was smart or dumb later. Or finding ways to fund that decision.

 

[Diff Kraken]

Not that I'm one to talk, I bought 2 2500 Suburbans within weeks of each other (granted both together are well south of what you paid for your 4R), but I'd chill out on all this and keep the 4Runner until you move out of DC. It sure doesn't seem like your wife is enjoying this very much unless you're embellishing a little for entertainment's sake. When you move out of the city assumedly you'll have room for vehicles and you can buy a beater for cheap then take your time to sell the 4Runner, probably for more than you paid, and then take your time and open up your search radius to include Texas, Arizona, New Mexico. If this next Land Cruiser will be your "forever" vehicle that you eventually pass down to your kids, do them and yourself a favor and find one with no rust whatsoever.

I hear you- but- she says she's ok with a truck swap at this point. Also, if you think it's hard to talk to her about truck stuff- try talking to her about selling our DC place and moving back to Virginia. That's an even tougher sell! Not sure why- women's logic I guess.

But- yeah- a wider search is my thought as well. I'm thinking sell the 4runner first and buy an LC200 online and have it shipped here. I've had decent luck in the past doing that.

As far as a car to hand down for my kid/s, that'll need to be a FJ40 in Mustard Yellow : )

 

[dbug]

I agree with @iptman , keep the 4runner, it’s a good truck! A couple weeks ago, I installed an Ironman4x4America lift on my friend’s 5th gen and it made me want to get one (far future).

 

[Diff Kraken]

I agree with @iptman , keep the 4runner, it’s a good truck! A couple weeks ago, I installed an Ironman4x4America lift on my friend’s 5th gen and it made me want to get one (far future).

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I agree that the 4R is a good truck but I’ll need a third row soonish. I’m just annoyed they wont sell you a rear locker with a third row. I got hypnotized by the rear locker when I bought it and ignored the third row. Also- I have an unhealthy obsession with the LC200 at this point after seeing how beefy they’re built.

 

[kevin in okinawa]

OK- Here's my latest analysis for keep my 4R Vs. buy the 2014 LX570 I was looking at Vs. get an older 200LC. This analysis reveals that, with what I value, I should not get the LX570 but I should definitely try to pick up an older 200 Land Cruiser. Does anyone else do these insane spreadsheets to make truck decisions?

Also, let me know any Pros/Cons you think I may have missed?

Yes, my plan is to bust out a spreadsheet at lunch with my mom and wife tomorrow. Yes- that's dumb. No Sun Tsu doesn't recommend logic for battle, but here I am.

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You are assigning all the data equal weight, which is a mistake.

 

[dbug]

I also installed an Ironman4x4America lift on my Hzj73. I bought this at the end of year sale and finally installed it. I had to cut 3 of 4 rusty shackle pins to get the the old leafs out. Thanks @OTRAMM for advice on using a cut-off wheel instead of a sawzall to cut them, that saved me a lot of time. The ride feels a lot better compared to the extended shackle lift it had.

 

[Diff Kraken]

You are assigning all the data equal weight, which is a mistake.

Was just thinking that myself, I thought I was using the Ben Franklin technique but it looks like he assigned weights to each item. I’ll do that and recalculate.

Domain error

 

[Diff Kraken]

I also installed an Ironman4x4America lift on my Hzj73. I bought this at the end of year sale and finally installed it. I had to cut 3 of 4 rusty shackle pins to get the the old leafs out. Thanks @OTRAMM for advice on using a cut-off wheel instead of a sawzall to cut them, that saved me a lot of time. The ride feels a lot better compared to the extended shackle lift it had.

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Such a cool truck

 

[Diff Kraken]

Y'all out here building trucks and I'm building spreadsheets. Pretty lame living in the city to be honest. Oh well, here's what I got @kevin in okinawa ...

 

[JohnVee]

Does anyone else do these insane spreadsheets to make truck decisions?

The more time and mental energy you put into something, the more judgmental you'll be on yourself when it doesn't present as the absolute perfection you built it up to be, then you'll start the cycle again but always with that nagging bit of self doubt bouncing around in your skull.

***My wife makes spreadsheets for almost every decision (except cars and houses, for some reason). I suffer the consequences.