METHOD WHEEL QUESTION (1 Viewer)

[fisherman978]

hey guys i want to buy some method NV rims and i was wondering if i can just keep my tires off my stock rims and then mount them on the new rims. my tires are good and i was just wondering what size the OEM RIMS ARE. thanks so much. what size do i need?

 

[fisherman978]

here is what i have

 

[DirtDawg]

Methods for our vehicles are 18s, your running stocker 16s.

 

[CarcaineProblems]

According to Method corporate, they don’t make 18” wheels with the proper offset for Land Cruisers

I was looking for a set of Bronze Rome’s and their reply to me was: I would stick to a 16" or 17". In bronze we make the MR305, MR701 and MR308. Just no 16" MR308 for that vehicle. We do not make 18" with the proper offset for the Land Cruiser.



...after I researched a bit, it sounds like it’s an issue with the center caps not fitting. Some people drilled it out and painted the dust cover. I read one person just bought longer screws for the caps (? Odd because I thought they would snap in and not screw in?)

 

[FxFormat]

^^^ bunch of people are running method NV in 18s, myself included, +25 offset is perfect, flush with the fenders and don’t rub if you get the right size tires and/or lift.


All you gotta do is drill a 1” hole in the front center caps to clear the dustcap, my 5 year old niece could do that.

 

[Dparo]

According to Method corporate, they don’t make 18” wheels with the proper offset for Land Cruisers

I was looking for a set of Bronze Rome’s and their reply to me was: I would stick to a 16" or 17". In bronze we make the MR305, MR701 and MR308. Just no 16" MR308 for that vehicle. We do not make 18" with the proper offset for the Land Cruiser.



...after I researched a bit, it sounds like it’s an issue with the center caps not fitting. Some people drilled it out and painted the dust cover. I read one person just bought longer screws for the caps (? Odd because I thought they would snap in and not screw in?)

Center caps would never be a deal breaker with me.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

^^^ bunch of people are running method NV in 18s, myself included, +25 offset is perfect, flush with the fenders and don’t rub if you get the right size tires and/or lift.


All you gotta do is drill a 1” hole in the front center caps to clear the dustcap, my 5 year old niece could do that.

For the sake of clarity, anything other than a body lift will not change what size tires you can clear on a 100 series.

 

[JayM]

+ 25 is not a perfect offset for our vehicles. It will limit what sizes you can run without rubbing and fender contact . Not to argue of course.

 

[Somebodyelse5]

+ 25 is not a perfect offset for our vehicles. It will limit what sizes you can run without rubbing and fender contact . Not to argue of course.

I've never heard of anyone rubbing fenders because of the +25 offset. Rubbing the UCA maybe, but not the fender. Most guys want to run wheel spacers anways, so if the offset is a concern, run spacers

 

[abuck99]

Maybe not "perfect" but for available wheels and styles in a reasonable price range they work pretty good. I run 275/70-18 and get no rub anywhere. I suspect you would have to go up closer to a 35" or a 12.5" width to encounter issues with these +25 offset.

 

[Roosevelt T]

Someone just posted 2 days ago they are running 295/70/18s on a 20mm offset with no rubbing. That's on a STT Pro which has manufacturer specs of 34.5". Obviously some plastic trimming and banging out those pinch welds takes place, but you shouldn't rub otherwise.

A whole host of people are running SCS's which are +10mm offset.

 

[JayM]

Someone just posted 2 days ago they are running 295/70/18s on a 20mm offset with no rubbing. That's on a STT Pro which has manufacturer specs of 34.5". Obviously some plastic trimming and banging out those pinch welds takes place, but you shouldn't rub otherwise.

A whole host of people are running SCS's which are +10mm offset.

This setup will rub in front will tear off the retaining tab on the top ,middle, inside of the front fender and also with the front wheels turned the front tire will hit the fender under a very hard compression. The rear wheel will also likely rub the inside of the rear fender. To spread the info that it wont rub is not accurate and a lift does not cure the problem.

The people running the SCS have a bigger problem especially when a tire bigger than stock is used. I like the looks but I would never recommend that offset.

I would say for running around town and some logging roads a guy can get buy with some of these options. For any serious or even semi serious off road situations they could get problematic. I have a setup that is +20 with ko2s 275 70 18 and would not go any larger or wider. On full compression on the front end it will hit the inside edge of the fender retaining tab. Any taller or wider will start tearing stuff up.


some good info here

What you need to know about 100 series aftermarket wheel options

 

[JayM]

I've never heard of anyone rubbing fenders because of the +25 offset. Rubbing the UCA maybe, but not the fender. Most guys want to run wheel spacers anways, so if the offset is a concern, run spacers

Running an offset like +25 pushes the tire and wheel out from the UCA so rubbing there would be a non issue. Ive seen guys on this form with that offset rub the fenders tire choice is limited with this offset.

Guys that run spacers do so for a few reasons. Looks better when running a narrow tire on a stock offset wheel for a wider stance. Rock warrior wheels usually run spacers. Running a wide tire on a stock offset +60 wheels to clear the UCA. Running a spacer on a +25 ia not recommended it compounds the problem.

 

[Roosevelt T]

This setup will rub in front will tear off the retaining tab on the top ,middle, inside of the front fender and also with the front wheels turned the front tire will hit the fender under a very hard compression. The rear wheel will also likely rub the inside of the rear fender. To spread the info that it wont rub is not accurate and a lift does not cure the problem.

The people running the SCS have a bigger problem especially when a tire bigger than stock is used. I like the looks but I would never recommend that offset.

I would say for running around town and some logging roads a guy can get buy with some of these options. For any serious or even semi serious off road situations they could get problematic. I have a setup that is +20 with ko2s 275 70 18 and would not go any larger or wider. On full compression on the front end it will hit the inside edge of the fender retaining tab. Any taller or wider will start tearing stuff up.


some good info here

What you need to know about 100 series aftermarket wheel options

I've read your thread numerous times. I read every thread on this forum about 35's, wheels with more offset, fitment issues, etc.

To be honest I couldn't find widespread documented issues you speak of. Maybe somehow I missed it. I read a lot of hearsay and conjecture but did not see much proof. This made me feel OK taking the plunge and seeing where it led me. Fwiw, I read even less about rear fender rubbing, so although I understand why you mentioned it and it was a concern of mine, I could not substantiate that concern.

I agree with your statement that I should not post my conjecture as fact either, I apologize. That is also a pet peeve of mine on internet forums so I understand where you are coming from.

I'll be happy to document how my truck handles wheeling when the build is done. The vehicle will certainly see a bunch of real trails in AZ, Utah and CO.

 

[JayM]

I've read your thread numerous times. I read every thread on this forum about 35's, wheels with more offset, fitment issues, etc.

To be honest I couldn't find widespread documented issues you speak of. Maybe somehow I missed it. I read a lot of hearsay and conjecture but did not see much proof. This made me feel OK taking the plunge and seeing where it led me. Fwiw, I read even less about rear fender rubbing, so although I understand why you mentioned it and it was a concern of mine, I could not substantiate that concern.

I agree with your statement that I should not post my conjecture as fact either, I apologize. That is also a pet peeve of mine on internet forums so I understand where you are coming from.

I'll be happy to document how my truck handles wheeling when the build is done. The vehicle will certainly see a bunch of real trails in AZ, Utah and CO.

What do you plan on running?

This is +20 with 275 70 18 and where I'm pointing is the tab in the fender that holds the wheel liner. A 33 will hit there just barely inside of the fender lip under semi heavy compression. The section width of the 275 is 11 inches. A 295 is around 11.6 and sounds like your offset at +25 will give you .2 inches better clearance but you will still poke out .2 inches further with the increased section width than the set up I have run. It will be be over and inch larger in diameter and that is where you will run into issues. The rear will just tuck in when at full articulation so not a big deal there. I'm not trying to talk you or anyone out of it. Just go into it with your eyes wide open knowing you will have work to do and could possibly have some damage to your front fender. A stiffer than stock suspension or lift would make rubbing less likely but would not prevent it under heavy compression.

Front poke 18x9 +20 with 275 70 18 KO2

another front

rear view

Hope this helps. I would only run a 275 70 18 or drop the diameter to a 32 inch if I wanted a wider tire section on a stock suspension 100 series. Have fun!

 

[Roosevelt T]

What do you plan on running?

This is +20 with 275 70 18 and where I'm pointing is the tab in the fender that holds the wheel liner. A 33 will hit there just barely inside of the fender lip under semi heavy compression. The section width of the 275 is 11 inches. A 295 is around 11.6 and sounds like your offset at +25 will give you .2 inches better clearance but you will still poke out .2 inches further with the increased section width than the set up I have run. It will be be over and inch larger in diameter and that is where you will run into issues. The rear will just tuck in when at full articulation so not a big deal there. I'm not trying to talk you or anyone out of it. Just go into it with your eyes wide open knowing you will have work to do and could possibly have some damage to your front fender. A stiffer than stock suspension or lift would make rubbing less likely but would not prevent it under heavy compression.

Front poke 18x9 +20 with 275 70 18 KO2

another front

rear view

Hope this helps. I would only run a 275 70 18 or drop the diameter to a 32 inch if I wanted a wider tire section on a stock suspension 100 series. Have fun!

Yeah I think the part of your post I bolded is the most important part.

My setup will be 295/70/18 on a +18mm wheel, so I will have about ~.4" more 'poke' than you, when everything is said and done. That being said, a lot of tires I have seen do not seem to have the tread width differences or section width for that matter when you spec them out versus what the tire calculator says they will have.

When reading a bunch of threads, there are people running real 35X12.5's on this board. Most dont have the offset I will have, but they arent on stock 60mm offset... usually a 1.25"-1.5" spacers which equates to a 28mm and 22mm offset, respectively... which puts them out further than I will be. All things considered, I think it will take a little work on my end and probably longer bump stops but I think it will be doable. I will certainly post about it so the community knows.

 

[bozncsurf]

Yeah I think the part of your post I bolded is the most important part.

My setup will be 295/70/18 on a +18mm wheel, so I will have about ~.4" more 'poke' than you, when everything is said and done. That being said, a lot of tires I have seen do not seem to have the tread width differences or section width for that matter when you spec them out versus what the tire calculator says they will have.

When reading a bunch of threads, there are people running real 35X12.5's on this board. Most dont have the offset I will have, but they arent on stock 60mm offset... usually a 1.25"-1.5" spacers which equates to a 28mm and 22mm offset, respectively... which puts them out further than I will be. All things considered, I think it will take a little work on my end and probably longer bump stops but I think it will be doable. I will certainly post about it so the community knows.

Out of curiousity what wheels & tires?
Or if it's a secret, I can just wait

 

[Roosevelt T]

Out of curiousity what wheels & tires?
Or if it's a secret, I can just wait

Nope, I thought I already posted what wheels, sorry.

Method 311's & Cooper STT Pro's.

 

[bozncsurf]

Nope, I thought I already posted what wheels, sorry.

Method 311's & Cooper STT Pro's.

Very nice. Can't wait to see !

 

[Roosevelt T]

Very nice. Can't wait to see !

It's going to look cool, that's for sure, haha. I test fit them yesterday and per my previous concerns (mostly posted in other threads), I think the fronts might necessitate some additional mods over the standard pinch welds and cutting/molding of the fender liner.