Inclined FJ80

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If your springs are the issue, then swapping sides should do something, even if it doesn't fix it. The right side axle perches are taller on all 80's, and your right side measurements are higher. If your right side springs are taller, then swapping them to the left side could fix the issue, or possibly make the left side taller than the right. Either way it tells you something.

If your springs are actually the same height, as the manufacturer says they should be, then the springs aren't the issue. The right side axle spring perches are only about a half inch or so taller than the left. Your measurements show a 7/8" difference in the front and 1.5" difference in the rear. If, for some reason, your right rear spring was (way) too tall or too stiff, it would also lift up the right front. The same effect could be from the left front spring being way too short or weak, or an extreme amount of weight on that corner. It's pretty hard to put extra weight on that corner. Maybe one or more of your springs are from a different kit, and are either too tall/short or are a different spring rate. Or maybe your frame is severely twisted.

Please post some pics of the bottom of the springs showing the coil end, like in post #25, and of the top, so we can see if the springs are installed correctly and if they have any spacers. I don't see how you'd get the 1.5" difference in the rear just from having them installed incorrectly, but a tall spacer on the right side might do it. If they are installed correctly, you will need to remove the springs and measure/compare the free height and wire thickness. There aren't many other options, aside from throwing parts at it, which is not something I'd recommend.
Thank you Spike, I agree with you. Im attaching some pictures from what it seems it's not an installation problem, I don't know. But, the problem is evident and everybody in Ecuador is saying "WHAT TH HELL DID THEY DO!" So, here I am, trying to get this solved. Didnt know they had that intenional incline, but wow. OK.

Again those last measurements are from the Chasis, lets remember again the measurements from top of the rim to fender.

Front Left: 13.75 IN
Front Right: 15.35 IN (1.60 IN dif)
Rear Left: 12.60 IN
Rear Right: 14.76 IN (2.16 IN dif)
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If your springs are the issue, then swapping sides should do something, even if it doesn't fix it. The right side axle perches are taller on all 80's, and your right side measurements are higher. If your right side springs are taller, then swapping them to the left side could fix the issue, or possibly make the left side taller than the right. Either way it tells you something.

If your springs are actually the same height, as the manufacturer says they should be, then the springs aren't the issue. The right side axle spring perches are only about a half inch or so taller than the left. Your measurements show a 7/8" difference in the front and 1.5" difference in the rear. If, for some reason, your right rear spring was (way) too tall or too stiff, it would also lift up the right front. The same effect could be from the left front spring being way too short or weak, or an extreme amount of weight on that corner. It's pretty hard to put extra weight on that corner. Maybe one or more of your springs are from a different kit, and are either too tall/short or are a different spring rate. Or maybe your frame is severely twisted.

Please post some pics of the bottom of the springs showing the coil end, like in post #25, and of the top, so we can see if the springs are installed correctly and if they have any spacers. I don't see how you'd get the 1.5" difference in the rear just from having them installed incorrectly, but a tall spacer on the right side might do it. If they are installed correctly, you will need to remove the springs and measure/compare the free height and wire thickness. There aren't many other options, aside from throwing parts at it, which is not something I'd recommend.
@-Spike-
Do you have somewhere this is documented?

I have read LOTS of suspension threads and I have never seen this mentioned.

If this is truly the case, then OME springs would not be swapped from right to left based on driver location.
EVERY spring manufacturer (except Eibach, apparently) takes into account the side the driver is on and the fuel tank location.

@cruiserdan or @OGBeno or @cruiseroutfit , can any of you corroborate this statement of different spring perch heights? I don't think this is correct.
 
@-Spike-
Do you have somewhere this is documented?

I have read LOTS of suspension threads and I have never seen this mentioned.

If this is truly the case, then OME springs would not be swapped from right to left based on driver location.
EVERY spring manufacturer (except Eibach, apparently) takes into account the side the driver is on and the fuel tank location.

@cruiserdan or @OGBeno or @cruiseroutfit , can any of you corroborate this statement of different spring perch heights? I don't think this is correct.
You could always go look under your truck. Once you know what to look for, it's pretty obvious. And as far as I know, OME and other manufacturer's springs are always installed on the same side. The confusion comes from their instructions referring to driver's and passenger sides, instead of left and right. The long spring always goes on the left side, short spring on the right. This information is wrong, please see post #49.

Also, the spring height difference is minimal, so it's hard to even see it unless they are sitting upside-down next to each other.
 
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@BILT4ME I wasn't aware that the fuel tank position is different on RHD models, is that really a thing?
 
In post 41, it appears one rear spring has the part number suffix FA, and the other RA.... I believe you stated earlier they all had the same #, but is this one oddball (one RA, 3 FA)? Or front and rear installed as left and right?
 
In post 41, it appears one REAR spring has the part number suffix FA, and the other RA.... I believe you stated earlier they all had the same #, but is this one oddball (one RA, 3 FA)? Or front and rear installed as left and right?
Good call, Im thinking they are R for rear and F for front. As I can tell from the pics, they are effectively, front and rear in the pics
 
Good call, Im thinking they are R for rear and F for front. As I can tell from the pics, they are effectively, front and rear in the pics
Okay, looking again, i think I mistook a front pic as a rear...
 
@-Spike-
Do you have somewhere this is documented?

I have read LOTS of suspension threads and I have never seen this mentioned.

If this is truly the case, then OME springs would not be swapped from right to left based on driver location.
EVERY spring manufacturer (except Eibach, apparently) takes into account the side the driver is on and the fuel tank location.

@cruiserdan or @OGBeno or @cruiseroutfit , can any of you corroborate this statement of different spring perch heights? I don't think this is correct.
Mea culpa- I was wrong. I just took my own advice and looked at some 80 axles. I have some off the truck and was able to take some measurements. The perches are not taller on either side. I apologize for offering bad information. It was something I was told long ago and never questioned.
 
Mea culpa- I was wrong. I just took my own advice and looked at some 80 axles. I have some off the truck and was able to take some measurements. The perches are not taller on either side. I apologize for offering bad information. It was something I was told long ago and never questioned.

Whew, glad you checked 👍
 
@willorge One thing strikes me about your pics- those do not look like new springs and shocks. I wouldn't blame a manufacturer for 'defects' in parts with an unknown history.
 
@BILT4ME I wasn't aware that the fuel tank position is different on RHD models, is that really a thing?
I don't believe the fuel tank switches sides, but the driver definitely does so that moves the steering gear and brake master cylinder, and steering column do switch, so those are just some of the things that do a weight transfer from one side to the other.
 
Well guys,

I followed you guy's tips and someones specific tip, who I cant remember, who said something like "toss those eibach and get some OME and you'll be good".

Living in the third world aint easy to do something like that but I gave up. I managed to get an order of a 2" OME, with this set up.
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The left are the OME codes, and there you can see the prices.... I dont know the prices for USA. No caster kit, Im keeping the one I have... but this is a tad expensive here, plus the wait. The discount was a treat by a friend of my dad who helped us, but there you go. Hope this is better than an inclined car that rides like a lowrider!

Any thoughts, thank you very much feel free!

PS: Thats paying cash, if no cash, take away the discount, and add the credit card taxes if you pay monthly fees
 
@willorge Have you researched dobinsons coils? I still had a little bit of lean with OME. I didn't have lean with the dobinsons i put on. I am not saying OME are bad Just wanting to give you more options since you are pricing out sets. I got mine from @crikeymike I don't think he covers Ecuador but he might know who does.
 
@willorge Have you researched dobinsons coils? I still had a little bit of lean with OME. I didn't have lean with the dobinsons i put on. I am not saying OME are bad Just wanting to give you more options since you are pricing out sets.
Thanks, of course. I found out about them here and they said 3000 USD for a Sport Suspension for the FJ80. GET OUT OF HERE, LOL
 
OH wow. yeah its expensive down there.... Mine was REALLY cheap in comparison. I wasn't replacing shocks though, just springs. I've really been happy with them. and when it comes time to change shocks. I will either go with them for those, or go back to stock toyota as they are not bad either. I only have a 2.5in lift though.
 
@willorge if that's USD, then it's not too awful. I think MSRP for my lift was something like $1300 back in 2017. Slee's price was just under $1k, which was a steal. However, I think those both included caster correction bushings and a steering stabilizer.

If I were installing a lift today, I'd probably go with Dobinsons. No idea if you have any way to buy that.
 
@willorge Have you researched dobinsons coils? I still had a little bit of lean with OME. I didn't have lean with the dobinsons i put on. I am not saying OME are bad Just wanting to give you more options since you are pricing out sets. I got mine from @crikeymike I don't think he covers Ecuador but he might know who does.

Thanks, of course. I found out about them here and they said 3000 USD for a Sport Suspension for the FJ80. GET OUT OF HERE, LOL
I can't ship to Ecuador, but I can ship to a USA based freight forwarder or family member if you have one in Florida or Texas that can then ship it on to you.

It would depend on what parts they're quoting. A fully outfitted IMS suspension can easily be over $2k US, plus shipping down to you for about 150lbs of gear wouldn't be cheap I bet.
 

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