Help needed. 80 won’t start out on the trail

[ICY80]

for some reason my 80 randomly died out on the trail. Miles out of town in the back country in Kentucky. Thing has been doing great all day. Randomly died and won’t start back. Alternator is good. Tried to start back and then just lost it. Could use some pointers. I wonder if it’s the fuel pump. It seems to have lost fuel. Any pointers? Thanks guys.

 

[WiscoPat]

Does the starter crank? Battery voltage good? Air filter good? If so likely a fuel pump or filter issue, assuming you have enough fuel.

 

[artech]

Check your fusible link.

 

[Kernal]

"Tried to start back and then just lost it."

What does that mean, exactly?

Has it been overheating, engine running rough, loss of power, any symptoms before this happened? Did the engine stumble and die while running, or just suddenly shut off, or had you shut the engine off then came back and it wouldn't fire or???

Had you been driving through water (how deep)?

Do you see the check engine light come on when you first turn the Ignition key to ON? ie: insert key, turn key to ON, watch for the check engine light, it should come on, if it doesn't then the ECU is not getting power.

Edit: Fixed it.

 

[Shipwreck]

From the FAQ section:
Start with these diagnostics.
Emergency Troubleshooting Procedures - FAQ Item (Recommend Keeping Copy in Truck) - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/emergency-troubleshooting-procedures-faq-item-recommend-keeping-copy-in-truck.115816/

 

[bkfj40]

You need to describe it better

Does it crank?
Is there spark?
Fuel pressure?

 

[family80]

Yes more details. It will help point you in the right direction.

 

[Casey E]

Check your ignition fuse, seen more than one pop.

 

[White Stripe]

Unfortunately 80s are so old it could be a million different things.

 

[NorCalFJ100]

From the FAQ section:
Start with these diagnostics.
Emergency Troubleshooting Procedures - FAQ Item (Recommend Keeping Copy in Truck) - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/emergency-troubleshooting-procedures-faq-item-recommend-keeping-copy-in-truck.115816/

^^^every owner should keep this printed out in their rig.

 

[devo]

Fuel pump relay

 

[Dave 2000]

As above really, diagnosis is always harder than the fix.

What resources do you have on board? Cable, pipe, FSM, MM, are you alone, water and food, meds if needed, can you walk out?

Try this first, if you or a friend has some gasoline in a can, then pour a little more than a thimble full into the air intake, or syphon some. If the engine at least fires and runs for a second or two, then you now know your entire ignition circuit is good.

Now you need to look at fuel supply, a blocked filter would unlikely kill an engine immediately, normally a lack of power comes long before the filter blocks.

If you switch on the ignition and watch the dashboard lights, you should see them brighten after a few seconds, this would indicate the fuel pump and relay supplies are good. If not then pull the fuel relay and in the relay socket bridge the two largest connections with a piece of wire, this bypass will eliminate a faulty relay or signal from the ECU.

If the engine runs then get yourself home or to a garage if you're not motor savvy to get the problem sorted. Do NOT leave the wire in place, doing so will keep the fuel pump running, a leaking injector will allow a cylinder to fill with fuel...not good!

If you're fuel pump does not run, then your looking at your back up plan to get you out of trouble.

If the engine did not fire with the 'thimble' test you could be heading for a long line of tests, immobiliser, distributor, a cable, it could be many things.

Regards

Dave.

 

[jonheld]

Do you see the check engine light come on when you first turn the Ignition key to ON? ie: insert key, turn key to ON, watch for the check engine light.

The light should come on for a second or two then go out (normally).

With the key in the ON position without the engine running, the CEL will remain lit until the engine starts or you turn the key back to ACC.

 

[LandLocked93]

Think we lost him?


Let's all take a moment in remembrance.
I'll say a few words..."Lord please receive this 80 into your good graces. For many were made but few are chosen."


Oh and, "help the owner to learn from their transgressions, heal the wounds of sorrow, seek forgiveness, and repent oh Lord in Your name, Amen"



Too much too soon?

 

[bkfj40]

Amen!

 

[effjay80]

I hope driver and 80 are both okay.

 

[leonard_nemoy]

Miles out of town in the back country in Kentucky.

@ICY80 Hope your alright......

 

[deltapine1]

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@ICY80 Hope your alright......

Dueling Banjos were in Arkansas. He is in Kentucky and should be fine. I think.

 

[ICY80]

Very thankful for all of the responses from everyone (even the funny ones) My apologies for the lack of explanation, service was pretty much non existent so I couldn’t get back on the forums. Scary situation ended up being an easy fix, I was just worried due to the environment we were in so I decided to post. Hope that doesn’t offend anyone. For 1- I wasn’t alone thankfully! 2- I never travel without my zoleo iridium satellite tool. (Comparable to the Garmin Inreach). We were a Group of 3 vehicles, (all Toyotas ofc) and we had been traveling on part of the KAT. We were nearing the end of the trail and like stated, the 80 randomly died after taking a hell of a beating all day long, water crossings, rock hell, nearly tipped on its side, but she didn’t complain one bit. When it died I initially thought fuel. Checked every fuse, no issues there. (This isn’t smart I know! but I did it) shot a SMALL amount of either towards The throttle body and had nothing which told me I must I’ve had no spark. Pulled a plug and yup, nothing. Started fumbling with the distributor and sure enough! One of the lower wires had formed a loose connection. That’s literally all. She did fantastic 80+ 6 hours home. On the upside we got a sweet taste of the KAT lol. Here’s some pics. Thanks again. 80 is good and so am I! She’s all cleaned up now as she should be after a trail ride

 

[ICY80]

^^^every owner should keep this printed out in their rig.

10-4 thank you sir