First Time Pig "Build"

[Delancy]

Ron,

Do you know the history on the carb you sent?

The gaskets looked brand new and the staking appeared to be a DIY job, reason for asking.

I had two OE rebuild kits for an F carb, though neither had the diaphragm that the aftermarket do, and know I sent one for Boss Hog's Pig, but can't find the other anywhere.

Out of curiosity, more than anything

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

don't splash acid without PPG...safety glasses are really only there to stop what the face shield/respirator didn't from getting into your eye...when I got steel in my eye grinding(glasses and shield- NO GOGGLES) the eye doctor named Fog(no sh**)used a grinder of his own to get the shard out of my eyeball...it does not "tickle" despite the rumored report

 

[scrapdaddy]

Chris,

I bought that wagon from Georg. I believe he was just flipping it, though. So, no history from me. It did start when I got it.

Give him a call, he might know more.

 

[Delancy]

don't splash acid without PPG...safety glasses are really only there to stop what the face shield/respirator didn't from getting into your eye...when I got steel in my eye grinding(glasses and shield- NO GOGGLES) the eye doctor named Fog(no sh**)used a grinder of his own to get the shard out of my eyeball...it does not "tickle" despite the rumored report

I have a frequent flyer account and an optometrist's cell phone number with express permission to call at any time, for the very reason that he prefers to pick steel out, not drill out rust.

Job hazard and it happens even with protective eyewear, as mine and my guys will attest.

On the acid, going to get a full mask....cause that tiny little drop still burns.

With the gallon can, considering three parts of the body are bathing in it, will take 6 days just for those.

 

[Delancy]

Give him a call, he might know more.

I'd hate to bother Georg with anymore of my petty queries. Haha.

No worries, Ron. I was surprised at the condition of the gaskets, but honestly don't know that they should've been in any different condition than they were.

Think I've found the correct part number for solenoid, since it's not plate-able (they one ill be returning on yours has been approved by Jim C., rest assured) so going to try to find the plated diaphragm (or find out if I can replace with a serviceable one) to match the yellow CAD.

It's crazy how involved and in depth something as mundane as a carb rebuild can become.

 

[tucker74]

There's no one locally that does, but the shop he used on OH does car bodies, even, which would've been a great way to have exposed all that ails the 72, before beginning sheet metal work.

There is a place in Ft Worth that does this, not cheap but probably closer

http://www.metalrehab.com//index.htm

Tucker

 

[tucker74]

No sand to deal with, no pitting, and it's ready to paint as it comes out of the bath.

The problem with this approach is you've got to totally disassemble it, and then make absolutely sure you neutralize the acid (will bubble paint). I looked into this a while back for some 40 body panels, it was really pricey. Here's my before and after with a $35 sand blasting job, you don't have to disassemble (just make sure holes are filled with bolts or Gorilla tape):




The only pitting you'll get with blasting heavy gauge metal is what is rusted, the acid will remove the same thing Didn't make sense to me after I weighed the variables, maybe if I could have had it done locally?

My $.02 -

Tucker

 

[scrapdaddy]

It's crazy how involved and in depth something as mundane as a carb rebuild can become.

That's the fun part of the hobby!

 

[LAMBCRUSHER]

JUST PAINT THE THING ZINC!!!ahahahahhhha. ok I'm ok...

 

[Delancy]

Tucker,

One item that Britt pointed out when acid dipping a body is the seam sealer will be eaten away, too.

He said that on high end builds, even those that do dip, he pulls all of the panels, seams, everything apart, cleans, preps, paints, reseals before putting back together.

He said he would NOT do that on a Pig. Hahaha.

That's the fun part of the hobby!

Agree.

You only thought yours was SLOOOWWWW....

JUST PAINT THE THING ZINC!!!ahahahahhhha. ok I'm ok...

I set myself up for them, so don't gloat cause I'm an easy target.

Bahahaha.

 

[Delancy]

Latest. Not moving very fast as a few other projects are in process too.

Having to rebuild this section as the 71s isn't in good enough shape to use, either.

Maybe a future bobm part.




The cargo floor panels are also being sectioned in, because the 71 and 72 have a different embossing pattern on the ends of the ribs.

71






72






I realize that's very, very, very petty, but it is what it is and the choice was made to cut out parts of the 71 floor to section into the 72.

 

[Delancy]

Hard to see in pic, but bobm's inner fender panel.



There are some tricky radiuses to form inside of the lower pillars and all had to be redone from a previous impact.

Pretty much, the outer skin is removed to reveal inner that needs to remove too, so outer is braced, inner replaced, then back to outer.

Won't call it a learning curve for the body man, but more a vehicle specific curve. At least, teeth have been cut on the most difficult shell anyone on their right mind would've scrapped, setting the stage for more efficient future shell repairs.

 

[scrapdaddy]

WOW! I've never seen one so " deboned ". When he gets done with all yours, I might ship him my parts wagon. It should be a walk in the park, compared to this one.

Second thought, he might quit working on pigs, when he's done with yours.

Keep it going!

 

[bobm]

WOW! I've never seen one so " deboned ". When he gets done with all yours, I might ship him my parts wagon. It should be a walk in the park, compared to this one.

Second thought, he might quit working on pigs, when he's done with yours.

Keep it going!

Ron, send it this way. Thinking about doing it in the near future.

Thanks Bob.

 

[Delancy]

Second thought, he might quit working on pigs, when he's done with yours.

I can appreciate how much better condition the 76 body is in than this one.

Britt REALLY APPRECIATES it's better state.

Thinking he's wanting this out of his shop as much as I am.

Bahahaha.

By all outward appearances, this has been more challenging than any of us thought, but it is what it is, now.

 

[Delancy]

Ron, send it this way. Thinking about doing it in the near future.

Thanks Bob.

You know what you need, Bob.

A titled rolling chassis to build up from.

When do you want to pick up what's left of the 71?

Edited: I have to say that, the 71 was by far the best Pig purchase I've made to date.

I should erect a monument in her honor and bury the bones.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Ron, send it this way. Thinking about doing it in the near future.

Thanks Bob.

Near future, heck no, but when the SLOW 71 is done you never know.

I'd like to strip a body shell all the way down to bare metal and then rebuild. Everybody needs a spare.

Edit: Just slap me, I've got enough to do now!

 

[Delancy]

I'd like to strip a body shell all the way down to bare metal and then rebuild.

Once again, a showing of appreciation for your input and efforts on mine and others "builds", I'll unselfishly cast my own wants and wishes aside to honor yours.

When would you like me to send the 76 your way?

Bahaha.

There's legitimacy to rebuilding body shells from bare metal as Britt and I discussed earlier this week, if the current trend of increasing Pig popularity continues, as a business endeavor.

Personally, I have no desire to maintain another business or profit from a passion, but if it were possible to recoup the investment and provide a "ready shell" al a scrapdaddy style, I'd bet there'd be no shortage of takers, based on merit.

It may be the $6-9k price tag that would be difficult for some to digest, but money well spent for those without the metal forming experience it requires.

Britt had been documenting the entire process and has said that doing another after this would half as difficult (well, with the disclaimer that it wasn't rear ended or rusted to nothing) considering the spot weld locations would be known, as well a "process" known.

We've seen the NOS fenders recently bring $1,300.00 and it begs the question of how much would rust abated, panel patched, primed fenders bring if similarly marketed?

I've been casually looking for a later hood and even one that needs work lists at $400. What would a corrected, primed hood be worth?

How about the "doghouse"? Could even paint Cygnus White and offer as a bolt in affair.

Again, I've no desire, but the wheels are always turning and if a businessman (or woman....) were to consider an alternative source for income while perpetuating the life of the pig, there's a market for it and I could see it being as sustainable as the other similar TLC platforms.

 

[Delancy]

Second dip:

Have 72 hours on this piece and still needs a little work.

Before








After














Not really worried about anything but the carb body, since most will blast before plating, anyway, but this gunk is caked on.

This pic is pointless.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Chris,

Thanks for the offer on the 76. I thought we were friends! I'd wind up in jail with that deal.

Sounds like a good business for your guy and BobM, to get into.

To have a solid body to start building on, would be great for a guy like me, who has no body shop talent at all. It would be alot of fun to be there and watch the 72's body unfold and transformed into a new creature.