First Time Pig "Build"

[Delancy]

Wheel cylinders? You didn't pay $800 for brake cylinders?

Tucker

In a round about way, I sure did.

Guess I did get an SOR gauge surround and body mounts, too.

Edited: Make that $1,115.00.

Hopefully Cruiser Karma will shine brightly on my interest in the future.

 

[bobm]

Delancy, sent you pm. Quarter patches on page 25.

Thanks Bob.

 

[OGBeno]

In a round about way, I sure did.

Guess I did get an SOR gauge surround and body mounts, too.

Edited: Make that $1,115.00.

Hopefully Cruiser Karma will shine brightly on my interest in the future.

Cruiser karma is something you won't ever have to worry about my friend.

Dedication to the cause--which you have shown-- and other contributions (directly or indirectly) will shine on for a long time Chris.

 

[Delancy]

Cruiser karma is something you won't ever have to worry about my friend.

I can hope...

Dedication to the cause--which you have shown-- and other contributions (directly or indirectly) will shine on for a long time Chris.

Thanks, Onur, but I ain't worthy.

 

[Delancy]

Few other pics.

Much worse once exposed.






















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Delancy, sent you pm. Quarter patches on page 25.

Thanks Bob.

Thanks, Bob.

What we think we're looking for are the parts for the Sharpie directions "you need to fill corner. Pieces supplied".





Not sure what those "pieces" are.

 

[tucker74]

In a round about way, I sure did.

Well I hope they are NOS and beautiful, I've got a complete rear axle with a recent brake job I'd have sent you for much less. They were cylinders from SOR, not sure what brand but nice stuff.

Tucker

 

[Delancy]

Well I hope they are NOS and beautiful, I've got a complete rear axle with a recent brake job I'd have sent you for much less. They were cylinders from SOR, not sure what brand but nice stuff.

Tucker

They're not NOS.

It was a comedy of errors involving a squirrelly classified ad, then honoring the order of respondents to said ad, after the opportunity to by the entire lot was presented.

 

[Delancy]

I sure wish that I'd been waiting on this and was all I needed to put her on the road.



The entire arse of the end of the Pig has been beat, twisted, pulled, patched already, all covered with 1/2-3/4" of bondo.

The rear corner is recessed in a 1/4" on the PS, too much to not address, so the parts Pig's pork hams will be inspected tomorrow as potential donors, an effort to produce a top notch job, get initial purpose, anyway.



















Lots of little issues that are being addressed as she's in a lot worse shape that I originally thought, but not sacrificing quality to save time or effort.

Brass tacks are, I chose the wrong starting point for a resto of the caliber that I'd like to produce.

I love her no less, but much more challenging than what I think a more experienced Pig restorer, or myself at this point of infancy of Pig knowledge, would have undertaken, all things considered.

 

[Delancy]

Thanks Bob.

Bob,

Britt wanted me to tell you that the rockers were kick ass, spot on, worked perfect.

Chris

 

[tucker74]

Brass tacks are, I chose the wrong starting point for a resto of the caliber that I'd like to produce.

You live and you learn, don't sweat the parts pig ... plenty of pigs have been sacrificed to keep those we love on the road. Excited to see this quality of resto on a Piggy

Tucker

 

[bobm]

Bob,

Britt wanted me to tell you that the rockers were kick ass, spot on, worked perfect.

Chris

Chris thanks to you, tell Britt Thanks. Feedback is very important.

Thanks Bob.

 

[Delancy]

don't sweat the parts pig ...

Three Little Pigs sure rolls off the tongue better than 2.453 though. Haha.

The rear of the parts Pig had already endured some degree of bondo-less body work, so hoping viable.

Will know tomorrow once he sees. I think he's bringing cutoff and tow truck, so hoping I can get it there in the morning and remove anything and everything that I can.

Britt contends that the rear of the 72 has been hit, at least on the PS corner and PS tailgate. Maybe the entire rear, but that's as far as he's got with the grinder.

That said, we'll be using the NOS tailgate, opposed to fixing the OE or parts Pig's, which seemed to make him happy, with even sectioning in the Toyota to the NOS.

Both rear fender lips are unusable, but won't know if donor fronts will be necessary until after the inspection. I know he was hesitant to cut up the front fenders I bought from Cruiser Corps because he knows what I paid, but I did reiterate my preference that he choose the best of what's in stock.

Excited to see this quality of resto on a Piggy

Tucker

Just hope to maintain throughout.

 

[Delancy]

tell Britt Thanks.

Will do.

Since he's battled the rocker only, he did say that further commendations were forthcoming, if the rocker is any indicator of fit and finish.

His confusion on the printed text on rear quarter patch regarding the corner was similar to mine, thinking it was describing another formed piece.

We both understood after reading the message, but I have a greater appreciation for the reasoning behind your patch "as is" and as discussed in the thread, versus a completed panel with the corner, because it would never fit right, considering the minor variations inherent to the body itself. At least, as I see it.

While he's at my Sty, going to have him glance at the 76, which needs roof gutter at the very least, but probably rockers too.

Be some time, but while all is fresh for him, might as well start contemplating future work on her, as well, since he'll be right there.

 

[scrapdaddy]

Delancy,

Sure sounds like your body guy, knows what he's doing. It's one thing to spend the money for the fix, but you want it right when done.

Keep the beer cold!

 

[nuclearlemon]

if you tear into enough pigs, i think you will find lots of bondo. i have no doubt that some was required due to the complicated curvatures. throw in the fact that these were marketed as tough off road rigs and were probably treated as such.

 

[Delancy]

Sure sounds like your body guy, knows what he's doing.

Ron,

I've come to the determination that there are body guys (and gals, to be politically and accurately correct, considering one of the latter has time on this Pig) and metal artists that restore.

Many months before embarking on this endeavor, I had a conversation with a local, esteemed body guy who recommended finding an old timer due to the lack of artistry in metal work that a modern body shop was capable of doing/profiting from.

"If it can't be found ready to prep, paint, then bolt on, a smart shop won't touch it." were the words, if memory serves.

Britt does know what he's doing and Bob's panels are allowing for him to do a lot less than he may be accustomed to on a rusted out resto, and still this shell is posing its own challenges, or so it seems.

I can say this much. I'd love to gain the abilities to handle all aspects of Pig restoration, but I don't know if there's enough time in my life to acquire the capabilities to handle this aspect, to the degree that I've set the bar on this one, and still don't know if it'll be achievable.

if you tear into enough pigs, i think you will find lots of bondo. i have no doubt that some was required due to the complicated curvatures. throw in the fact that these were marketed as tough off road rigs and were probably treated as such.

Bondo seems a means to simplify some of the curves.














Saving this piece from the corner, but you should've seen the pile.

 

[PabloCruise]

Your Pig has had plastic surgery!

 

[Delancy]

Your Pig has had plastic surgery!

Yep, so now to the reduction.

I'm looking at the parts Pig and thinking this will and that we (Britt and I) should've looked closer at before spending any time on the rear quarter patch.

If I offered any of the parts that I may potentially use to anyone and they were counting on, regardless that I did reserve right to first pick, I'll try to help find whatever I may now not be able to supply.

Feel badly about cutting her up, anyhow, but it is what it is.

Think I'm going to let Britt determine the cut lines though, because I don't know how much overage is really necessary, plus the pillars themselves may be useful.

Right now it looks like I could cut the roof off, then cut at the lower rear door sill, all the way across the floorpan, and remove the entire back section, and have a better finished product, overall, but I'm not a body guy in the least.

Does anyone know of any subtle differences between the rears of the 71 and 72?

Anything from the 72 I should transfer to the 71 arse, if this route is determined?

Obviously, the pro will decide, but what I'm thinking is,

Start the cut from PS to DS here...



All the way across the floor pan.

Then cut the roof loose in the same line,







primarily to maintain structural integrity for transporting sixteen miles across town.


The inner is shot, but have a patch for that.

The flat of the panels aren't perfect, but have a patch for that, too.




















Floor pan in cargo bay can be used, instead of patching the 72s, plus this way the PS wheel well , THE ONLY RUST ON HER ACCORDING TO PO could be used with the seat support still attached.









Think anyway we go about it, the lower floor support (??. The piece that extends from pillar to pillar inside the tailgate opening at the bottom??) will have to be fabbed.

My concerns are cutting somewhere that negates any benefit to other Pigs, that I could've avoided very easily.

Any takers?

 

[Delancy]

Should I cut the roof supports out and use in 72?

For added quantity and strength?





Or better to fab new?

Can't believe that Toyota ever engineered as it is, even in the mid-60s.

It's a lot of weight in sheet metal to only have two inner cross supports connected with a non-structural strut between.




She bled out, too.





No clue why.

And does anyone have any clue what this is?









I know the PO was a tractor builder, too, and know that guys go crazy over old production parts (the idiots, right? Going to all that trouble and expense to restore old tractors using OE parts. Insanity) but have no clue what this would've come off of.

 

[nuclearlemon]

Should I cut the roof supports out and use in 72?

For added quantity and strength?
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yes. also you can get extra domelight. search and there is a thread telling you which way to face the light support to keep it from interfering with the headliner bows (if you are planning on installing headliner)