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Might I ask a favor, at convenience?
Would you mind measuring the steering rods so I can check against what Wayne has listed?
I get lost on the build threads, but I'm pretty sure you've one with 60 knuckles, right?
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Might I ask a favor, at convenience?
Would you mind measuring the steering rods so I can check against what Wayne has listed?
I get lost on the build threads, but I'm pretty sure you've one with 60 knuckles, right?
crushers
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ummm, credit goes to Lowenbrau for the info. he is the one that put me in the loop.
just passing it on.
just passing it on.
twrecks has mini knuckles, which are essentially the same, but power steering and custom rods. the pickle has 60 series knuckles because it has a 60 series axle which is wider. 69, 76, and 78 are bone stock.
so i'm gathering what wayne is trying to find is the length of the relay rod for a stock late model pig and he will figure which rod has the correct length to match stock late model pig and correct taper for 60 series tie rod?
78 relay rod is about 30" on rod itself, about 34" outer edge end to end. sorry not approximate,, but measuring off bosshogs rig which is a bit greasy
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Per FSM (imagine that)
Relay Rod 32.56" (827mm)
Tie Rod 47.44" (1205mm)
Oddly enough, the FSM is backwards. Haha.
What I can't find is anything with nomenclature regarding the rod from pitman arm to center arm, nor any indications of a length.
Relay Rod 32.56" (827mm)
Tie Rod 47.44" (1205mm)
Oddly enough, the FSM is backwards. Haha.
What I can't find is anything with nomenclature regarding the rod from pitman arm to center arm, nor any indications of a length.
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That'd be correct.
Goal being OE rods with 60 ends.
Thank you, Ige.
crushers
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now, is that 32.56 from center of tie to tie or just the threaded tube?
crushers
post ho
okay
part number 45460-69135 tube is 42" with center of end at 48" with +/- 1" play
part number 45450-69085 tube is 30 1/4"" with center of end at 38" with +/- 1" play
so unless you go with 60 PS box, this relay rod won't work in your application.
hope this helps
part number 45460-69135 tube is 42" with center of end at 48" with +/- 1" play
part number 45450-69085 tube is 30 1/4"" with center of end at 38" with +/- 1" play
so unless you go with 60 PS box, this relay rod won't work in your application.
hope this helps
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Thanks, Wayne.
At least one part number is validated. That beats none.
Wonder the odds of finding all OE components to rebuild all this?
With the 60 box, the drag link here is eliminated, correct?
Almost sounds easier to do PS than not.
For terminology, I've always assumed there a drag link from box to knuckle and a tie rod from knuckle to knuckle.
This states the drag link is from pitman arm to center arm, relay rod from center arm to knuckle, and tie rod from knuckle to knuckle.
That's a lot of stuff going on, and would have to source rod ends for this versions drag link to center arm, too. Defeats the "all 60" TRE goal.
Don't know what to do, honestly.
I may be missing the forest for the trees, just don't want a bunch of cobbled up chit, if I can possible avoid.
Guess I could always have all three rods built to FSM spec, ream the center arm and pitman arm to accept 60 TREs, and call that good?
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Makes sense, though I'd have thought it'd be printed in an Aboriginal language. Haha.
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On the steering rods... Have an idea
80 TREs.
Ream the 60 knuckles, the center arm, pitman arm to accept 80 TREs, fab all rods accordingly.
80 TREs are available separate, should be available for a few more years ( we hope ) and are oversized beyond what this Pig will ever see.
Thoughts?
Enough meat on the center and pitman arm to oversize to accept?
Brilliance or stupidity?
( looking for the bore specs, now.)
Plus I have (2) 80 tie rods and a drag link here. Don't know if there's enough straight drag link to cut the short 55 drag link out of, but can get more tie rods locally with a phone call.
80 TREs.
Ream the 60 knuckles, the center arm, pitman arm to accept 80 TREs, fab all rods accordingly.
80 TREs are available separate, should be available for a few more years ( we hope ) and are oversized beyond what this Pig will ever see.
Thoughts?
Enough meat on the center and pitman arm to oversize to accept?
Brilliance or stupidity?
( looking for the bore specs, now.)
Plus I have (2) 80 tie rods and a drag link here. Don't know if there's enough straight drag link to cut the short 55 drag link out of, but can get more tie rods locally with a phone call.
oddly enough, most countries, including japan have everything backwards
the drag link most likely isn't referenced since it is static. there aren't replaceable ends, it's all welded.
that's what i run on my built up rigs. jack rice has made rods for my 68 fj40, my old fj60 and i had two sets for the pickle, one for the old stock axle and one for the new 60 axle.
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oddly enough, most countries, including japan have everything backwards
Stated like a true red-blooded American.
Makes sense. I hate not having access to.
I'm not familiar with all aspects, as I'm sure you can tell, but will catch on quickly.
Problem solved. Thank you.
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Good to know. I will query next week to see if that's still a potential.
Not concerned about reaming the knuckles since they're off, but a little concerned about removing the center and pitman arm, considering the age and unknown condition/wether I can get it back together in a timely fashion.
Not thinking I'm going to have any time with after the body work and before the journey north.
How's that make y'all feel?
