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No biggie. Those of us that kick in will have the good feeling of knowing we did something good for the cruiser community. I'm sure folks that can't or won't kick in will be very thankfull.

There are the few folks that will be critical or demanding without helping out... none have shown up so far AFAICT..... but they will... and we will tell them to Kiss Off.


calfj60 said:
I sure hope not everyone thinks that way....but I am old enough to know better...and yes people will just watch and get the ideas for free... Oh wellwhat are you gonna do???
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I like the idea a lot, but have some questions:
How is the quality of this tank? Why is every other one like 4 times the price?
We are going to haul 40 gallons of flammable stuff along with that thing, hanging under the truck, far, far out in the desert...

As I said, the idea is cool, but if it is like other parts for Chevys, it is made for 5 years of moderate usage, not 20 years of off roading.

thanks
J
 
I would say lest try this one but also look into having an aluminum one made by the guys in Flordia....Wonderin what their prices would be like...
 
I agree, we need to get behind this and see how it goes. There are alternatives but this could be the best, so let's get together and support the effort.

We all undertsand not everyone can afford to support such an effort but the bulk of us can, and should.

So pass on a few beers, a couple gallons of gas, starbucks or whatever you need to do to support this.

Send Jim a lousy $10 and see what comes of it - we won't know until we all try...
 
VTCruiser said:
what's time frame? I need a new tank by July.
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Step 1- go to local crash parts supply house. Inspect all common ford & chevy truck & van tanks to see which one looks closest to Cruiser fitment.

Step 2- order the tank from the inexpensive online source, either Rockauto or Lmc truck. Either a stock 35-40 gal. GM tank or the extended 38 gal. ford tank.

Step 3- rig or fab a fuel pickup unit and a Toyota gage sender.

step 4- install tank under truck, modify fill hose/pipe as necessary & connect.

Step 5- finalize design, post final results on Mud and write up for the Trails.

Dunno exact time frame, but I will get to the parts house in the next 3 days or so.
 
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theSherpa said:
Jim, I've been looking at this tank for a year or two, thinking the same thing:
http://www.rockauto.com/ref/SPI/Det...ecs.php?part_id=GM25G&product_specs=fuel_tank
It's a 40 gallon tank from a late-'80's Chevy P30 van.
Steve in TornadoAlley
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Good find steve.

Here's the E-catalog for spectra tanks. They have decent pictures and dimensions and capacity of every tank they make.

We have several candidates that will fit between the frame members: ford PU& chevy 'Burb, chevy P-van (step-van).

Need to figure out which one has the best fill hose alignment.
 
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Jan-78FJ40 said:
I like the idea a lot, but have some questions:
How is the quality of this tank? Why is every other one like 4 times the price?
We are going to haul 40 gallons of flammable stuff along with that thing, hanging under the truck, far, far out in the desert...
As I said, the idea is cool, but if it is like other parts for Chevys, it is made for 5 years of moderate usage, not 20 years of off roading.
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Evry other domestic tank is the same price or cheaper. A stock 20 gal replacemnt tank is $80. The 40 gal GM tank is $140, 38 gal ford is $150.

These tanks are cheaper than replacement tanks for toyota or Volvo because ford has been selling 300,000 plus F-series pickups every year for the past quarter century. GM/Chevy combined sales are even greater. so there is a huge market for replacement tanks on 20 year old wrecked and rusted trucks.

These aftermarket tanks meet US DOT safety specs, and are galvanized in & out, which is an improvement over OEM. I'm gonna prime and paint before final installation, just for extra peace of mind.
 
its official

I'm in on the "donation" to jim.

a friendly note to everyone else, it's ten dollars, I personally am very happy that jim has decided to take this on. In the long run he is saving everyone a lot of time and possibly a lot money that we can put into our cruisers.:grinpimp:
Thanks, Dylan
 
I'm in - payment sent.

Looking forward to this one!
 
CaliCruiser said:
I'm in on the "donation" to jim.

a friendly note to everyone else, it's ten dollars, I personally am very happy that jim has decided to take this on. In the long run he is saving everyone a lot of time and possibly a lot money that we can put into our cruisers.:grinpimp:
Thanks, Dylan
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Ditto that. I promised him $20 when I get payed on Monday.
 
so...?

jim... not to be off task but you will be getting my carb shipped to you from california... it will have instructions in the box with the carb and i will payPal you the amount to rebuild and include my $'s for this project with that pymnt. when you tell me you actually got the carb.

would it be too hard to get the measurements for the tank and placement of the fuel fill when you are doing the ford or chev tank? i will then proceed with setting it up in cad and then get some prices. one of the nice things about these aluminum tanks is that they can be shaped to fit the hole precisely AND tabs could be welded on them for mounting to the frame with some bolts for a nice clean install with no straps and crap. i'm pretty sure that the price would be equiv to the junk yard or new ford/chev tank install... for sure the labor would be far less. it was a long time ago when i had any tanks built for my boats but their cost was less than the cost of the replacement tanks and one of them was a 50 gallon that was custom chaped to fit in the Vee on the bottom of the hull in front of my center console on my 25' boat and those tanks were baffled to keep the fuel from swishing around when hopping waves. and for you rock hoppin' boys there could be provisions for a skid plate that mounted to the same frame rail bolts as the tank uses.

let me know by email to the link in my sig line.

thanx
 
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A local truck aftermarket guy mentioned that a it was very difficult to get a "Tool Box" type extended gas tank built for gas engined pickups.. Deseil, no problem, but the gas ones have to pas a rollover test and be vented under some tough guide lines. "That is why you don't see many custom gas tanks on street legal rigs" "Boats and race cars have another set of rules"

To abide by the safty regs is what runs the price up, A tank that big really needs baffles or the whole rig will rock at stop sign. it's got to do some roll over test deal according to this parts guy and meet other DMV saftey regs before it can be sold to a bunch of stumpjumping dumbasses, (speaking for my self here).


Be interesting (great) if your guy can build a custom tank for us, but he needs to look at the on the road regs. It would seem his cost will skyrocket if the Gov. gets involved.

Lets just build a aluminum "tub" and put a 40 gal "bladder" in it? isn't that what NASCAR uses?
 
One more note, It is the crushing ability that must be tested too. On impact they have to crush and not split open or some such deal This guy was talking about on road use, We had a pony keg rigged as the tank in a flat fender Heep years ago.

I dunno but it would seem the gov would have their hands in this, It is fuel we are transporting, the Gov sure loves all things that envovle oil products...
 
imho

i am not going to involve the federal or state government in my replacing a fuel tank in my 20 year old car; especially, when i can go to the junk yard and get a rusted out hulk of one from some wreck and just bolt it in.

i was thinking of course that we could all put air bladders or pontoons on the front and rear quarter panels of our rigs and hoist a sail and weld on propellers so that we could use them in the lake or ocean and therefore they would be boats. i am sure that a welded aluminum marine gas tank with baffles and skid plate bolted between the rails to replace our 20 year old tanks that are starting to give up the ghost could never be as safe as two or three 5 gallon jerry cans mounted on the bumper or strapped down to the roof rack. if i am not mistaken all of the fuel vapor venting is done at the fill tube and just gasketed holes in the stock tank.


see diagram of stock setup ripped from sor site
 
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I'll be out of town untill sunday night. Keep PMing me if you want to kick in on the project, but don't get your feelings hurt if you don't hear back from me. I might have net access, but I'm not sure. I'll return your PM's on Sunday night at the latest.
 
srplus said:
i am not going to involve the federal or state government in my replacing a fuel tank in my 20 year old car; especially, when i can go to the junk yard and get a rusted out hulk of one from some wreck and just bolt it in.

i was thinking of course that we could all put air bladders or pontoons on the front and rear quarter panels of our rigs and hoist a sail and weld on propellers so that we could use them in the lake or ocean and therefore they would be boats. i am sure that a welded aluminum marine gas tank with baffles and skid plate bolted between the rails to replace our 20 year old tanks that are starting to give up the ghost could never be as safe as two or three 5 gallon jerry cans mounted on the bumper or strapped down to the roof rack. if i am not mistaken all of the fuel vapor venting is done at the fill tube and just gasketed holes in the stock tank.


see diagram of stock setup ripped from sor site
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I am hoping that you realize that all that mumbo jumbo is what I'm talking about when there is talk of just fabbing up a tank. It's a big deal, or there would be $250 40 gal replacements out there now. That's why I'm behind this deal.
I don't think the guys need to spend a lot of time doing measurements for a fabbed up tank, get on with the Junkyard project..is my point, which it seems you agree with.
 
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