Cybertruck or 200 Series Land Cruiser? (5 Viewers)

[TeCKis300]

More overrating by Tesla !

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-cybertruck-beast-vs-porsche-911-carrera-t-drag-race-towing-rematch/

No excuse from me. A white lie, yes. Overrated, no way.

Most people don't understand what fast is and numbers don't really tell the story. It takes analogies like this to convey just how stupid fast the Cyberbeast is.

Outside of a prepped drag strip and on the street, the CT would rule. Here's pitting it against an elite benchmark. That they are even in the same realm is rediculous.

 

[bloc]

If it’s so impressive why feel the need to lie about it?

 

[coleAK]

Here’s the thing most people don’t need a full
Sized truck they can run with a turbo S 911. most people need a truck they can haul a canoe, of plywood, skis, camping gear,…. I still say this thing would’ve made so much more sense if it was the size of a Santa Cruz or Maverick.

 

[greynolds]

No excuse from me. A white lie, yes. Overrated, no way.

Most people don't understand what fast is and numbers don't really tell the story. It takes analogies like this to convey just how stupid fast the Cyberbeast is.

Outside of a prepped drag strip and on the street, the CT would rule. Here's pitting it against an elite benchmark. That they are even in the same realm is rediculous.

Those guys are always entertaining. I liked the "I'll tow you if the track is within 30 miles" quote LOL. I honestly think worrying about "fast" on what's supposed to be a truck is pretty silly. Things like how usable the truck bed is, how much it can tow, how many miles it can tow before needing to be recharged, etc. are far more important. Being able to at least keep up with traffic and the ability to at least adequately accelerate to pass someone on the highway are obviously important too and I think we can all agree / concede that the CT is probably at least "OK" in that regard .

 

[Broski]

If it’s so impressive why feel the need to lie about it?

^^^This

 

[Broski]

No excuse from me. A white lie, yes. Overrated, no way.

Most people don't understand what fast is and numbers don't really tell the story. It takes analogies like this to convey just how stupid fast the Cyberbeast is.

Outside of a prepped drag strip and on the street, the CT would rule. Here's pitting it against an elite benchmark. That they are even in the same realm is rediculous.

I have no doubt the CT is fast and the guys from motor trend are very fair about it.
The fact that it could tow the 911 and come close is a testament to its ability.
I just think it’s stupid that Tesla pushed it in all the wrong directions.
Nobody needs a truck that fast.
I thought EV were supposed to save the world.
And dam IMO it’s one ugly truck

 

[DIRTBIKEUSA]

Might be fast but it’s futt buggly.

Like dating a chick with perfect t@a, but with a dog face.

Hard pass.

 

[TeCKis300]

Is anything a need at this level? That we're faulting a vehicle for being too fast while still being efficient enough to paint rainbows?

No car is for everyone. Fortunately at this level, we've all got choices. It's easy to criticize and focus on what the CT is not, versus what it is. It's def not another cookie cutter truck that is a dime a dozen. What it is, is a giant middle finger to the establishment. Make that multiple establishments. No surprise people get offended and can't stand change in the status quo.

Is it the answer to the LC, maybe? not?

A fire across the bow of a 5 mth old Raptor 37. My buddy could not be more bored with it after experiencing the CT.

I have a Porsche and you'd think I'd be offended by the "lie", but as I've shared, it might very well go out the door to the CT.

 

[greynolds]

Is anything a need at this level? That we're faulting a vehicle for being too fast while still being efficient enough to paint rainbows?

No car is for everyone. Fortunately at this level, we've all got choices. It's easy to criticize and focus on what the CT is not, versus what it is. It's def not another cookie cutter truck that is a dime a dozen. What it is, is a giant middle finger to the establishment. Make that multiple establishments. No surprise people get offended and can't stand change in the status quo.

Is it the answer to the LC, maybe? not?

A fire across the bow of a 5 mth old Raptor 37. My buddy could not be more bored with it after experiencing the CT.

I have a Porsche and you'd think I'd be offended by the "lie", but as I've shared, it might very well go out the door to the CT.

An expensive truck that can't do basic truck stuff well deserves criticism IMHO. A number of people have pointed out that the bed setup is terrible. Even Hoovie's Garage brought that point up. It has also been pointed out that the roof rail potential for things like a roof top tent isn't there. The towing range is terrible (shared with most/all EVs).

The Raptor can at least do basic truck stuff fairly well. The fact that your buddy is suddenly bored with it after experiencing the CT implies to me that he probably bought it for the wrong reasons. Maybe he should have bought the EV Hummer instead.

This whole "giant middle finger to the establishment" thing really doesn't do anything for me. Would the CT be a good fit for me? Absolutely not. It looks totally ridiculous (IMHO), can't do basic truck stuff well, has (at least currently) limited off-road capability, has typical Tesla build "quality", etc. The only thing it seems to excel at is going fast and that's quite honestly a who cares to me. I don't spend time at race tracks and am really not interested in getting speeding tickets.

But if you want everyone to look at you when you drive by, by all means get one. Just be aware that not everyone who looks will be thinking you're cool. The bottom line is that if it makes YOU happy, that's all that really matters in the end.

 

[Valgrind]

An expensive truck that can't do basic truck stuff well deserves criticism IMHO. A number of people have pointed out that the bed setup is terrible. Even Hoovie's Garage brought that point up. It has also been pointed out that the roof rail potential for things like a roof top tent isn't there. The towing range is terrible (shared with most/all EVs).

The Raptor can at least do basic truck stuff fairly well. The fact that your buddy is suddenly bored with it after experiencing the CT implies to me that he probably bought it for the wrong reasons. Maybe he should have bought the EV Hummer instead.

This whole "giant middle finger to the establishment" thing really doesn't do anything for me. Would the CT be a good fit for me? Absolutely not. It looks totally ridiculous (IMHO), can't do basic truck stuff well, has (at least currently) limited off-road capability, has typical Tesla build "quality", etc. The only thing it seems to excel at is going fast and that's quite honestly a who cares to me. I don't spend time at race tracks and am really not interested in getting speeding tickets.

But if you want everyone to look at you when you drive by, by all means get one. Just be aware that not everyone who looks will be thinking you're cool. The bottom line is that if it makes YOU happy, that's all that really matters in the end.

Yea, I think alot of people buy raptops for the same reason that they are now buying cybertrucks.... They want the attention and say "Hey look I bought a $100k+ truck that is super impractical but I dont even care" Nobody is oohing and ahhing over raptors anymore so bingo.
This happens with a lot of luxury goods, buying impractical things is to prove a point that you can afford it.

 

[DIRTBIKEUSA]

No surprise people get offended and can't stand change in the status quo.

See that’s the thing Tesla fan bois they get all defensive and premenstrual and cry when when anyone challenges what they like with what they don’t like.

You got an electric car that you don’t know how to work on. Great! That’s not what this site is about.

 

[TeCKis300]

An expensive truck that can't do basic truck stuff well deserves criticism IMHO. A number of people have pointed out that the bed setup is terrible. Even Hoovie's Garage brought that point up. It has also been pointed out that the roof rail potential for things like a roof top tent isn't there. The towing range is terrible (shared with most/all EVs).

The Raptor can at least do basic truck stuff fairly well. The fact that your buddy is suddenly bored with it after experiencing the CT implies to me that he probably bought it for the wrong reasons. Maybe he should have bought the EV Hummer instead.

This whole "giant middle finger to the establishment" thing really doesn't do anything for me. Would the CT be a good fit for me? Absolutely not. It looks totally ridiculous (IMHO), can't do basic truck stuff well, has (at least currently) limited off-road capability, has typical Tesla build "quality", etc. The only thing it seems to excel at is going fast and that's quite honestly a who cares to me. I don't spend time at race tracks and am really not interested in getting speeding tickets.

But if you want everyone to look at you when you drive by, by all means get one. Just be aware that not everyone who looks will be thinking you're cool. The bottom line is that if it makes YOU happy, that's all that really matters in the end.

Other than towing range, I fail to see some of the other points.

Raptor payload - 1,411 lbs
Land Cruiser 200 - 1,570 lbs
CT - 2,500 lbs

Raptor bed length is 5.5'
CT is 6', and underbed storage, and frunk

Quality yes against a Toyota, sorta agreed. Ford's got nothing to stand on.

My wife's Tesla has needed next to no maintenance and work, compared to my LX.

See that’s the thing Tesla fan bois they get all defensive and premenstrual and cry when when anyone challenges what they like with what they don’t like.

You got an electric car that you don’t know how to work on. Great! That’s not what this site is about.

LOL, sounds like I hit a nerve. I like all cars and that's what makes things interesting. I'm interested in talking about objective details and looks like that sometimes hurts feelings.

We're out there using our cars camping, hauling, towing. off-roading. It's interesting to compare, contract, and upgrade.

 

[greynolds]

Other than towing range, I fail to see some of the other points.

Raptor payload - 1,411 lbs
Land Cruiser 200 - 1,570 lbs
CT - 2,500 lbs

Raptor bed length is 5.5'
CT is 6', and underbed storage, and frunk

It about more than numbers. Usability is important. Try putting something in the bed from the side like people actually do with pickups all the time.

 

[Valgrind]

Other than towing range, I fail to see some of the other points.

Raptor payload - 1,411 lbs
Land Cruiser 200 - 1,570 lbs
CT - 2,500 lbs

Raptor bed length is 5.5'
CT is 6', and underbed storage, and frunk

Quality yes against a Toyota, sorta agreed. Ford's got nothing to stand on.

My wife's Tesla has needed next to no maintenance and work, compared to my LX.



LOL, sounds like I hit a nerve. I like all cars and that's what makes things interesting. I'm interested in talking about objective details and looks like that sometimes hurts feelings.

We're out there using our cars camping, hauling, towing. off-roading. It's interesting to compare, contract, and upgrade.

Good luck getting any range with 2500lbs in it.

No maintenance on the Tesla on how many miles? Because you are considered lucky to get 100k miles out of a tesla, then you need to replace the battery. Ive never been happy with the interior quality of any tesla I've been in, whereas my LC looks brand new lol. Never seen another car hold up so well for being so old.
I mean nobody is really talking about how a CT is not going to last long at all. You will be spending a pretty penny on that battery not even to mention the rest of the design flaws it has compared to other evs... I mean tesla says you cant even wash the truck in the sunlight... and you CANNOT use a car wash at all.

 

[greynolds]

I mean tesla says you cant even wash the truck in the sunlight... and you CANNOT use a car wash at all.

I think to be fair, these 2 aren’t a big deal at all. It’s really not the best idea to wash cars in direct sunlight when the paint is going to be hot and there are other cars, such as pretty much anything with a matte finish (including Mercedes Magno paint options), that can’t go through a car wash.

 

[Adrenaline6]

The very ugly looks aside, it is intriguing on what it can do performance wise. The problem with that is if I want a expensive ass drag car, I have better looking options. Is it different from the norm? Yes, but so is naming your kid "King Bungholio". There is a line between being unique and standing out and standing out because of stupidity and ridiculousness. That line these past generations has blurred to the point of near idiocracy and many cannot tell the difference, it seems.

Certain characteristics of vehicles are a way for a reason, developed over time, finding out that this is the most practical way to do it. Some things you don't change just to change and be different. There should be a practical reason and/or advantage behind it, or you just effectively named your kid "King Bungholio".

Performance wise, I see a fun yet ugly machine, other than that, not so much at the moment. Could that change in the future? Sure. Sometimes a Gremlin needs to be made so designers get bitch slapped into reality because of it and then they find the happy medium.

I see your point, TeCKis30, performance-wise, but I do not believe for a second you would replace your Porsche with it or you bought that Porsche for the wrong reasons. Reading your past posts about your background since I have been a member here, I seriously doubt if that is what you did though.

 

[Valgrind]

I think to be fair, these 2 aren’t a big deal at all. It’s really not the best idea to wash cars in direct sunlight when the paint is going to be hot and there are other cars, such as pretty much anything with a matte finish (including Mercedes Magno paint options), that can’t go through a car wash.

Well, its a little different if the outside of the car rusts.

 

[greynolds]

Well, its a little different if the outside of the car rusts.

I decided to look into this washing the Cybertruck thing a bit further. According to Tesla, the Cybertruck CAN go through a car wash just fine and even has a car wash mode.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

Car Wash​

If taking Cybertruck to an automatic car wash is necessary, Car Wash Mode closes all windows, locks the charge port, and disables windshield wipers, Sentry Mode, and walk-away door locking. To enable, touch Controls > Car Wash. Your vehicle must be stationary and not actively charging.

Not washing a car in direct sunlight is just plain normal common sense and is something I've seen in numerous car owner's manuals over the years.

 

[Adrenaline6]

I decided to look into this washing the Cybertruck thing a bit further. According to Tesla, the Cybertruck CAN go through a car wash just fine and even has a car wash mode.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html

Not washing a car in direct sunlight is just plain normal common sense and is something I've seen in numerous car owner's manuals over the years.

I wonder if it mentioning vehicle must be stationary means no push through car washes. Probably not good for the motors, also towing it for any length of time for that matter would probably not be good.

 

[greynolds]

I wonder if it mentioning vehicle must be stationary means no push through car washes. Probably not good for the motors, also towing it for any length of time for that matter would probably not be good.

I only included part of the instructions. It goes on to mention that "Free Roll" needs to be enabled, which puts it in neutral so it can roll through.