I see that you've been reading click bait and sensationalized news. No point discussing as you've made up your mind.
Cybertruck or 200 Series Land Cruiser?
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I see that you've been reading click bait and sensationalized news. No point discussing as you've made up your mind.
Am I wrong about the battery cost lol? or the interior quality?
Stainless - Stain "less" its a matter of time before they all start to rust. So you better clear bra the whole thing lmao
xeuxaz
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Tesla batteries aren’t typically impacted by miles, instead it’s an age thing. Our household has a Y currently and has had an S previously. I have read many hours on Tesla forums etc.
Around the 8-10 year mark the battery is done. Regardless of mileage or “care”. If you factor the battery life, the fuel savings and “no maintenance” talk is no longer completely valid for long term owners. Compared to 200 series and older cruisers they are disposable cars. It doesn’t mean they don’t have their place. Just know going in what the life expectancy is including battery pack refurb costs.
Additionally Tesla service has gone down hill considerably and the DIY options are very limited. You’re at the mercy of their current agenda.
EVs are very hard to beat for day to day around town driving. They make so much sense for that use case. Especially for those that can charge at home.
Around the 8-10 year mark the battery is done. Regardless of mileage or “care”. If you factor the battery life, the fuel savings and “no maintenance” talk is no longer completely valid for long term owners. Compared to 200 series and older cruisers they are disposable cars. It doesn’t mean they don’t have their place. Just know going in what the life expectancy is including battery pack refurb costs.
Additionally Tesla service has gone down hill considerably and the DIY options are very limited. You’re at the mercy of their current agenda.
EVs are very hard to beat for day to day around town driving. They make so much sense for that use case. Especially for those that can charge at home.
If you want something fast get a plad…. Or if Tesla wants another performance car make a model 3 plad. Or if they wanted to make a fast big car why wasn’t this thing an SUV? A SUV version would have made so much more sense then a truck with impractical hauling ability.
Here is the thing. Elon said over and over during the development of the CT that they were going directly after the #1 selling vehicle in America, the f150. At the CT release every comparison they made was to a f150. Heck 3 of the top 5 vehicles sold in the us are 1/2 ton full sized trucks. That is the market he said they were going after. Up until this thing was released all his talk was vs a F150
So why does it make sense to make a 911/lambo/ferrari competitor truck that isn’t practical as a truck when you are trying to compete with highly practical trucks?
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bloc
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What is the threshold that an EV battery is considered “done?”
I could be wrong here but it’s not like they just fault out right? The vast majority just lose capacity compared to new?
I could be wrong here but it’s not like they just fault out right? The vast majority just lose capacity compared to new?
Yes it is a linear decline. My 10 YO model S has lost 9%. Max charge is now 91%, rated range is ~240 miles down from 265. My 6 year old model 3 has lost 1-2%.
bloc
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Do you know whether the battery chemistry is different between the two? Did one or the other see more level 3 charging?
xeuxaz
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They lose 10% within the first 6 months. Then it flattens out. When they fault out, typically around the 8 year mark they are unusable until a repair is made to the failed modules or the entire pack is swapped. Hence Teslas warranty of 8 years for most of their full size packs.
xeuxaz
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I find it very hard to believe your 3 lost 1-2%. How are you measuring that? I diligently monitor a number of Teslas and none of them have avoided the 10% loss in the first 6-12 months.
xeuxaz
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For reference here are some stats on a 4 year old Model Y performance with 45k miles. Almost every mile driven and charged has been tracked. Very few 100% charges. Only 8% has been Level 3/Super Charging. Degredation is pretty bad at 12-15% depending on the temp.
bloc
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What monitoring scheme is this?
xeuxaz
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xeuxaz
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Some other stats that are hard to plan for until you actually own and operate them. In the AZ heat, the AC slurps the battery hard. Yes, when it's summer time here we are lucky to get 60% of the rated range. From what I understand it's a similar inversed graph for Cold weather. Especially those without a heat pump.
No way. I have dozens of friends with Teslas none have lost 10%. It matters how you charge.
I charge to 70% in the summer and 80% in the winter. Only charge >80% on long trips and almost never DC charge, I’ve never DC charged the s and only have DV charged the 3 eight to ten times. Sure if someone only charges on DC and/or daily charges >90% and runs it down to <10% you would see more battery degradation.
As for how I know. I charge to 100% then look at the miles on the battery meter, which is based on epa rated wh/mi. I charged full ~2 weeks ago and the 3 showed 307 miles (down from 312 when new). So 1-2%
If I’m not mistaken there is a one reduction gear in the motor (s) that is the “transmission” so the unit can be put in a “neutral” gear.
Most vehicles are towed with a flat bed anyway.
Towing in gear would charge the batteries as is it was in motor regenerative braking.
Regardless this stuff has been figured out with the original Tesla roadster and has been applied to subsequent models.
It still doesn’t change the fact that the cyber is a fad shaped uggo box that will not be mass produced much like the original roadster. The roadster was actually good looking tho..
A CT pull up behind us as we were trying to see the northern lights in the middle of nowhere.
The a** hat driver could not figure out how to turn the dam lights off. And he could care less.
Not only should he not parked right on us he left the light on and walked away.
The a** hat driver could not figure out how to turn the dam lights off. And he could care less.
Not only should he not parked right on us he left the light on and walked away.
You turn stuff around just like my wife and two daughters.
No no, rub it in. We need full craptalk!
Not cause it’s electric, or fast, or has 1zillion nifty WOW features.
Cause it’s as ugly and useless as a truck.
i completely agree with the above statement
this man is a gentleman and a scholar
