Bumps on my 78’s rear tub/fenders? (4 Viewers)

[Gusb]

Got a little time in the garage. Need to finish up my fenders and get them sprayed with EP and maybe some finish color on the areas I won't be able to reach after they go back on. These guys are kind of a pain to move around when banging on so I rigged up a carousel with some 2x2 scrap tube and an old office chair. This will be a paint rack too
fender the movie 001 - YouTube

 

[miker]

Yeah, he's back! Nice idea! I made something similar but not using a chair. It was helpful but I did find that having the inner skirts close together made painting a little tougher. It was hard for me to manuever the paint gun in that "V" and get an even spray pattern. If I remember correctly, I think you bought a smallish gun, so maybe not an issue using yours.

 

[Gusb]

Yeah, he's back! Nice idea! I made something similar but not using a chair. It was helpful but I did find that having the inner skirts close together made painting a little tougher. It was hard for me to manuever the paint gun in that "V" and get an even spray pattern. If I remember correctly, I think you bought a smallish gun, so maybe not an issue using yours.

Good point (unfortunately ) - I may need to rethink a few steps. Was going to just EP and reassemble before final color but I'd like the engine-bay areas to have the stock color - may just touch up a few spots . . .

 

[Gusb]

Turn signal bracket/mount areas - a little plastic but mostly steel

Bib area I cleaned up and rattled-canned when I got the truck. Probably a good time to try and fix the rust sandwich in the lower bib.

 

[thecrazygreek]

A note on painting. Find out if your gun can accept the devilbiss d-cups system. You can google it and read all about it, but basically it's a spill proof paint cup system that allows u to paint at any angle without worry of spills or performance issues.

Looking good, keep on truckin!

 

[Gusb]

Thanks Greek.

I've got that 3M PPS stuff - with the mini cups. Seems to work well, upside down, etc. Probably the same as the devilbiss d-cups thing? Only problem is the "mini" cups are really small - good for the most part though and great for "spot" stuff.

A note on painting. Find out if your gun can accept the devilbiss d-cups system. You can google it and read all about it, but basically it's a spill proof paint cup system that allows u to paint at any angle without worry of spills or performance issues.

Looking good, keep on truckin!

 

[Gusb]

Getting another temporary paint booth setup together.

Anyone out there have solid info/formula for for 653 (olive brown) in a PPG paint product? I've been searching here for, but can't find, a thread that had a really nice restoration (653) and the guy was nice enough to supply color info. I'm going to take the paint guy a stock apron with good original paint I'm hoping he can match. Last thing I want is for everything to go too green (see 2nd photo). That original paint on the door in the second photo and the PO's repair on the rear can look close depending on the light but as the photo shows they're really way off.

I think the paint guy had mentioned Omni for a single stage which I think is made by PPG? I want something single-stage I can just touch-up when needed. Any opinions appreciated - thanks!

 

[miker]

Getting another temporary paint booth setup together.

Anyone out there have solid info/formula for for 653 (olive brown) in a PPG paint product? I've been searching here for, but can't find, a thread that had a really nice restoration (653) and the guy was nice enough to supply color info. I'm going to take the paint guy a stock apron with good original paint I'm hoping he can match. Last thing I want is for everything to go too green (see 2nd photo). That original paint on the door in the second photo and the PO's repair on the rear can look close depending on the light but as the photo shows they're really way off.

I think the paint guy had mentioned Omni for a single stage which I think is made by PPG? I want something single-stage I can just touch-up when needed. Any opinions appreciated - thanks!

Probably the ultimate thread for a land cruiser done in 653:
https://forum.ih8mud.com/fj45-owners-club/104821-3-days-3300-miles-later.html

Omni is a PPG product. My understanding is that it is a Collision Shop type of paint which means it a little less expensive than the PPG line. I'm sure there is some quality different as well. You might ask your paint supplier what you could expect with durability, UV exposure, etc between the Omni and PPG lines. I've used the Omni base/clear system a few times and was happy with the results however, the clear did not hold up long term to UV long term. Might have been a application error on my part, like not getting enough material thickness, etc. But the car did see continuous sun exposure for 5+ years before I saw any sign of issues. Never used the single stage line. I think its called MTK?

For my FJ45, I'm using all the Shop Line (PPG) for the underlayments like epoxy primers, 2k urethane surfacers, etc to save some money, but then when I shoot the oolor, I plan to use the PPG brand of paint. I'm probably going to use their single stage Concept DCC line. I've used the PPG DelStar Acrylic Enamel a number of times in the past and liked it. Its very durable and pretty easy to use, and covers very well however, it is pretty much phased out in california so its hard to find and may disappear altogether soon.

 

[Gusb]

Thanks Mike - very helpful and much appreciated as always. Stopping at the paint store today - I'll let you know how it works out.

 

[oregonfj]

I used Omni MTK when I painted my cruiser 5 years ago. It was pretty easy and forgiving for a rank amateur such as myself.
Still holding up well..........

 

[TCSTARK]

Gusb, please provide some insight on your homemade paint booth. I have plans on doing the same in the near future.

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[jbee]

paint booth.

home made paint booth:
bought 2 gazebos on craigslist, the walmart kind with the metal frames. I suggest 12 x 12.
$50 and $60 from 2 different people. all nuts and bolts included. one of the kits came with instructions in 3 languages. Bought 2 because 12 x 12 was not big enough to paint the cruiser in there. UBolted them together $15.

Plastic sheeting from Home Depot, the big pack, around $100. 20 feet by 100 feet, 4 mil i think. It's thicker than I expected and feels solid.
Huge tarp from harbor freight, 19 x 25 I think. $40. To cover the floor. Tarp taped down tight to avoid tripping on it.

Duck tape, more than I thought. gray stuff is fine, but the extra wide stuff (gorilla brand/home depot) is excellent. also at $15 a roll, I have it hidden from my sons.

fans, Lowe's, I bought 4 box fans @ $15/each. A/C filters for them were about $10.

We have the air, etc. at the shop, might spend some $$ on a couple decent spray guns from ebay or craigslist. Gas masks (is that what they're called?) from harbor freight.

Afraid to add up the $. We'll load black and cruiser gray on different days and maybe I'll invite the phoenix crowd over to get some stuff painted.
Still not sure what color I'll paint the fj40, leaning towards 854 sky blue but still considering yellow, freeborn, and dune beige. It's all sandblasted, soda blasted, or primed now so it's decision time.

 

[Gusb]

Gusb, please provide some insight on your homemade paint booth. I have plans on doing the same in the near future.

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Just a staple gun, roll of plastic sheeting and paper taped to the floor. I try to get the garage as clean as possible first and use 3 to 4 medium size fans pushing air out the main, lowered garage door. Have two additional side windows which seem helpful for an air "feed source". I thought about putting together some sort of reusable frame but being the garage it's really easy/flexible to just staple plastic up everywhere, seal things off and just rip most of it back down when done. I only seal off about half the garage on the door side. The plastic I'm using (roll stuff by Sherman Williams) is great - not too light like the cheap drop cloths but not too heavy either. I can get you a few more details/pictures up at some point if that would be helpful.

I try to keep the air moving but nothing is filtered of course. Not perfect but for laying down small amounts of EP and working small spot areas, which is all I'm trying to do right now it seems fine. I don't like the idea of a big plastic air-tight balloon of paint spray ready to blow. Oh - and I always kill the hot water header, turn off all gas, etc.

 

[thecrazygreek]

Way too much concern over perfect painting conditions. Keep the dust out. That's all u need to worry about. Paint on a vertical whenever possible.
If that's not good enough rent a booth when your ready to shoot the whole thing.
That's the way I do it. Never had an issue.

I'm not saying you don't need good conditions, I'm saying don't sweat it so hard.

No dust and your good. If you plan on color sanding, then a little dust won't matter as you'll sand it out anyway.

 

[miker]

Way too much concern over perfect painting conditions. Keep the dust out. That's all u need to worry about.

Maybe, but keeping the dust off the wet paint is only one issue. Keeping the paint overspray off of everything else is another.

 

[thecrazygreek]

Maybe, but keeping the dust off the wet paint is only one issue. Keeping the paint overspray off of everything else is another.

tru that...

 

[Gusb]

Inside the bib support . . .

 

[miker]

that looks familiar

Toyota sure made a lot of places for that to happen.

 

[Awl_TEQ]

Haven't removed mine yet but I expect the same

 

[79fj40moneypit]

Did the same on my old 79.