Builds Build Thread: Jim’s ‘55

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Big weekend! Finished fuel system, wrapped up some electrical connections, did some troubleshooting, and came up with some work-arounds (bi-passing the “in-park” sensor for start-up), and turned the key (of the Silverado ignition…sitting on my driver’s seat). Started on first attempt, though we had some vacuum issues-namely I hadn’t connected the vac line to the brake boost (pretty sure my dad will be dining out on that find for quite a while!). After addressing that, engine idled nicely, if a little loud (mufflers were not critical path). Still need to sort out coolant and air filter, but couldn’t wait any longer to fire her up!
The eagle eyed amongst you may notice a skylight in my hood- the intake manifold on the V-8 sits a bit higher than the 2F. Adding a hood scoop wasn’t part of the plan, but I don’t hate the idea. Have not finalized the hole b/c intake air and radiator hose routing could impact the extent of the required hole.

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Was really hoping to get her on the road last weekend, but a month with no brake fluid in the master cylinder appears to have pushed it over the edge. Brakes would not hold pressure last weekend, so…replace the master cylinder and voila! I’ve got brakes! Also picked up some hose clamps for various radiator pipe mods, modified the intake ducting to fit the engine bay (and also define the extent of the needed hood scoop-see photos), and wired the front lights into the Silverado wire harness. Squeezed a lot into 3 hrs after work/before a red eye flight, but managed to find time to fire her up, test the clutch and brakes in the driveway, and feel good about progress. This little piggy is coming home this weekend!

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The long awaited return home…had to aaaah…wait some more. Going through final check lists: zip tie s*** to the steering column, tape lights to bumper, top off fluids and check that lights work, I found I had no turn signals, and was popping fuses. 4 hours, serious wiring diagram review, and complete removal/reinstall of the front lights harness, and I found I that when I was decommissioning one of the unused Silverado side turn signal lights, I had tied it to a ground. Don’t ask me how or why- I obviously did it on purpose b/c I did it to both driver and passenger side lights! Anyway, with that figured out, and the battery recharged (it drained down to 8volts!), I hit the road. And promptly couldn’t figure out why my gearing had apparently changed with the motor swap! I’m obviously pushing too hard to wrap this up, and I’m missing obvious things…like being in 4 Low! I didn’t go too far before figuring that out, and the rest of the ride was thrilling- old piggy jumps off the line, and has mid range torque to accelerate at speed. Still much to do, but this is a big step I’m checking off as complete.

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Going to try to address specific build items now that the stress of getting it running again is past. Today, I’m going to focus on the engine layout. With the hole cut in the hood, I’m guessing there are some raised eyebrows amongst the society members.

So. The details: Motor: this is a 1999 LM7 (8th digit “T” in the VIN) GM 5.3L V8. While it’s called an LS, there are lots of variants. This motor was typical in the base Silverados, Yukons, etc. the LS motors in Corvettes, etc. is shorter but wider- this is taller and narrower, from what I understand.

Adapter: Mark’s 4wd LC bell housing to LS adapter, purchased in conversion kit from Advance Adapters, along with clutch plate, pressure plate cover, and engine mounts. The Mark’s 4wd adapter includes the outer housing, a sleeve for the throw out bearing/clutch fork pressure bearing, and a splined adapter to go from the 10 spline H41/H42 tranny input shaft to the GM spline on the GM clutch plate. This adapter is a bit shy of 5 inches deep and mounts between the bell housing and the engine block. The extra depth pushes the engine forward in the bay to move the engine out of the narrow indent in the firewall, meant to accommodate the narrower inline 6 F series motors. By using this, the rest of the drivetrain can stay where it is, and driveshafts don’t need to be re-sized.

Engine brackets: these are a 2-part universal mount from Advance Adapters. They allow for about 3” of play side to side depending on which hole you run the bolt through. Vertically, there isn’t any adjustment, but they come with (2) bolt holes for placement.

When we got the motor positioned in the bay, we noticed a couple things:
1. Motor is not centered- it is shifted to the driver’s side. Not sure why that was the case with the 2F, but with the 8” deep oil pan on the LM7, we needed that layout to avoid conflict between the pan sump and the front drive shaft mounting flange off the back of the differential (4th photo with motor centered- not good!).(5th photo with motor shoved as far to the left as possible- better but still close!)
2. Motor mounts needed to be mounted as close to the bottom of the frame as possible. The bottom of the bottom bolt is pretty much touching the inside face of the bottom of the tube. Even so, when we bolted up the bell housing, we had to put spacers between the bell housing mounting brackets and the bearing bushings. Good thing the kit came with solid spacers that were about 1” tall, exactly how much we had to raise the tranny up to meet the engine, like they knew this was going to be the case!

In order to raise the bell housing up, I had to cut out a portion of the fire wall. Right now the bolting flange of the tunnel cover touches the pan floor, but the top of the tunnel cover is sitting right on the tranny housing. And I have to re-fab the initial part that was not removable. I’ll also be fabricating a riser to lift the tunnel up a bit for clearance.

So…knowing that I have a big hole in the hood to deal with, I am wondering if I could have done things differently: fabricate additional frame structure below the existing frame to mount the engine brackets lower? Might have saved me the Mad Max hole in the hood, but I think it would have exacerbated the oil pan /drive shaft proximity concerns and would have made the power steering pump and AC harder to deal with (real tight clearances here as is). I think the engine is where it needs to be and I just need to get creative with my hood scoop. I wonder if people using this Advance Adapters kit for an FJ40 LS swap have run into the same issue.

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The Marks kit allows the install with no modification to the firewall or relocation of the tranny/mod to the drive shafts.

So I guess no modification to firewall didn't pan out. It's your build and congratulations for getting it done.

For anyone reading this in the future, there are hundreds (probably more, many documented on this forum) of LS swaps that have been done on 55s. Using a particular 'kit' just so you don't have to redo driveshafts is going to cause issues. Driveshafts are the least complicated thing you'll need to deal with. Modifying the firewall and hood are much more work. Perhaps a bit more research and changing out the oil pan and positioning the engine differently and you could have avoided some of these things you're now gong to have to address. Glad you got her running.
 
So I guess no modification to firewall didn't pan out. It's your build and congratulations for getting it done.

For anyone reading this in the future, there are hundreds (probably more, many documented on this forum) of LS swaps that have been done on 55s. Using a particular 'kit' just so you don't have to redo driveshafts is going to cause issues. Driveshafts are the least complicated thing you'll need to deal with. Modifying the firewall and hood are much more work. Perhaps a bit more research and changing out the oil pan and positioning the engine differently and you could have avoided some of these things you're now gong to have to address. Glad you got her running.
I’ve been struggling with how to phrase my reply to keep it concise and avoid getting into an argument over it. I knew the issues I had to work around, I had limited time with a buddy to help with the swap, and I knew my limitations. I did as much research as I could and this path made the most sense for me. I’ve been trying to be clear on decisions made and results in my write-ups with no ego on any challenges I’ve run into-call it a cautionary tale if you want. It may not be how everyone else has done it, but I got it back on the road in less than 2 months of weekends. And I’d take sheet metal work over structural welding of drive shafts and bell housing mounts 10 times out of 10. I can change out the oil pan with it in the rig, and I did end up repositioning the motor further toward the driver side before finalizing anything, so it drives just fine as is. Plus that scoop looks pretty sweet, even if it is only cardboard for now!

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100 different guys will have 100 different ways. Some guys have all the right tools, some don't. Some guys have all the time they need, some don't. There's no real wrong answer as long as you keep it on the road and enjoy it. Kudos to you for knowing your limitations and finding the balance that works for you. And thank you for documenting it along the way to help others make their decisions in the future.
 
What’s that little device on your front bumper?

My 2 cents- dont rush the hood scoop! You have a nice one now that could work, but grab a beer or three and start playing with the cardboard. Something might come out of that playtime that makes you even more happy.

Great project to stretch your sheet metal imagination!
Makita radio-18v battery pack (same as all my cordless tools) sits inside it- plays forever on one charge. I'm currently running the pig with a Home Depot contractor garbage bag (2 layers of 6mil plastic) taped over the hole with Tyvek building wrap tape. That is holding up well to driving and keeps the Seattle weather out of the engine bay, so I'm in no rush, but also not taking it on the freeway, just in case the bag decides to let loose! I tried the scoop full length, straight back to the beginning of the hood, which makes the angle less steep, but is bigger overall, and I didn't like it as much. The base of this one is pretty much parallel to the two existing raised runners on the sides of the hood, which makes it slightly wider at the back at the base, and much narrower on the front top of the scoop-I like that rather than a tapering gap between the raised portions. Not sure if an open or closed front will look better-it is holding temp right at 190 without any ram-air, so I don't think I need the opening, but I also don't have the grill on yet....Or the potential A/C condenser in front of the radiator (more on that juicy bit later!) Just picked up a used sheet metal break, and have some old ductwork and metal shelving that can act as practice before I fabricate the actual scoop.
 

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