I think you are claiming victory a little early on the BMC unless you've fully stuffed it.
2017 LX570 - Back again in another 200 - Ownership log and Build thread (2 Viewers)
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I totally agree with you there. I don't do any rock crawling with this truck, so I'll never be in a situation where I'll stuff the tires into the wheel wells. If I did, a mild BMC would definitely be needed.
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Got one of the "credit card" style key fob remotes recently. Installed a free copy of Techstream on a Windows laptop. Along with a VXDiag VCX Nano. Got connected easily with Techstream and programmed the new credit card key.
Did a quick video, incase it is helpful to any of you that are needing to program a new remote key fob. Links and some details are in the video description:
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Did a quick video, incase it is helpful to any of you that are needing to program a new remote key fob. Links and some details are in the video description:
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On the AHC sensor lift and larger tires. I've made some observations and am making some more changes. I know @TeCKis300 is going to give me a hard time on this one 
because I'm modifying some of the stock AHC suspension.
Before I describe some of the slight changes, let me preface it with the following:
* If you want big tires and you're on AHC, you DO NOT need to do what I'm about to describe. Just follow the steps I laid out in the video a few posts previous to this one in this thread. Keep your sensor lift to around 1.25-1.5" inches above stock and you'll be fine. Stock suspension geometry is great within that range, and your LX will still drive well.
* I'm making the changes below because I got the itch to go just a tiny bit higher, which I did a few days ago. And now I'm starting to feel the effects of caster & camber being too far out of spec under acceleration. And also starting to feel the very slight squirreliness of the rear end around turns uneven roads.
* Don't be like me. Stick to 1.25-1.5" of sensor lift, and be happy with it.
Now, if you have an itch to scratch and want to go 2" inches or higher worth of sensor lift, read on. I may do these changes and revert back later. Or I may keep them in place. We'll see.
In this first round of modifications. I'll be going with:
* E&E Rear Shock Spacers
* 30mm rear right coil spring spacer. 40mm rear left (driver) coil spring spacer.
- The above 2 items will help to get the rear AHC struts and rear springs back within stock specs for compression/extension/pressure. And will also get the rear driver spring height closer to the rear passenger side spring. If I remember correctly from my last LX570, the rear driver side spring is slightly shorter from the factory, which is why you notice on stock LX570s the driver side will sometimes be lower when it is parked.
* BOTCK (bolt on trackbar correction kit) for the rear panhard bar relocation. This will get the panhard bar back to the correct angle it was designed to operate in.
* ARB OME UCA0001 front UCAs (upper control arms). This will get me around + 3 degrees of caster and 1.5 degrees of negative camber. At current maxed out AHC sensor lift the caster is noticeably off during acceleration when the front end lifts slightly, and there is too much positive camber which is visibly noticeable from the abrasion on the outer tire edges in the front. The ARB OME/ UCA0001 will help get these back within spec. I looked at the SPC UCAs as well but I don't want the adjustability. I just want bolt in and go. And the ARB OME UCAs also look like they have the bracket for the AHD sensor arm.
After the above modifications are complete I will get the alignment redone incase it needs adjustment. Then report back. I'll also be checking AHC pressures with Techstream. My hope is that drivability improves, even while at max height. I also am hoping that front AHC pressures are not too high since I am not spacing out the front struts yet at this point. We'll see.
Would love to hear any feedback and advice from you all.
E&E Rear Shock Spacer: Rear shock spacer | E&E Off-Road - https://www.ee-offroading.com/product-page/rear-shock-spacer
Dr KDSS BOTCK kit: B.O.T.C.K - Bolt On TrackBar Correction kit Land Cruiser 200 series/ LX 570 - https://drkdss.com/products/botck-bolt-on-trackbar-correction-kit-land-cruiser
ARB/OME UCAs: Upper Control Arms UCA0001 - https://store.arbusa.com/upper-control-arms-uca0001/
because I'm modifying some of the stock AHC suspension.Before I describe some of the slight changes, let me preface it with the following:
* If you want big tires and you're on AHC, you DO NOT need to do what I'm about to describe. Just follow the steps I laid out in the video a few posts previous to this one in this thread. Keep your sensor lift to around 1.25-1.5" inches above stock and you'll be fine. Stock suspension geometry is great within that range, and your LX will still drive well.
* I'm making the changes below because I got the itch to go just a tiny bit higher, which I did a few days ago. And now I'm starting to feel the effects of caster & camber being too far out of spec under acceleration. And also starting to feel the very slight squirreliness of the rear end around turns uneven roads.
* Don't be like me. Stick to 1.25-1.5" of sensor lift, and be happy with it.
Now, if you have an itch to scratch and want to go 2" inches or higher worth of sensor lift, read on. I may do these changes and revert back later. Or I may keep them in place. We'll see.
In this first round of modifications. I'll be going with:
* E&E Rear Shock Spacers
* 30mm rear right coil spring spacer. 40mm rear left (driver) coil spring spacer.
- The above 2 items will help to get the rear AHC struts and rear springs back within stock specs for compression/extension/pressure. And will also get the rear driver spring height closer to the rear passenger side spring. If I remember correctly from my last LX570, the rear driver side spring is slightly shorter from the factory, which is why you notice on stock LX570s the driver side will sometimes be lower when it is parked.
* BOTCK (bolt on trackbar correction kit) for the rear panhard bar relocation. This will get the panhard bar back to the correct angle it was designed to operate in.
* ARB OME UCA0001 front UCAs (upper control arms). This will get me around + 3 degrees of caster and 1.5 degrees of negative camber. At current maxed out AHC sensor lift the caster is noticeably off during acceleration when the front end lifts slightly, and there is too much positive camber which is visibly noticeable from the abrasion on the outer tire edges in the front. The ARB OME/ UCA0001 will help get these back within spec. I looked at the SPC UCAs as well but I don't want the adjustability. I just want bolt in and go. And the ARB OME UCAs also look like they have the bracket for the AHD sensor arm.
After the above modifications are complete I will get the alignment redone incase it needs adjustment. Then report back. I'll also be checking AHC pressures with Techstream. My hope is that drivability improves, even while at max height. I also am hoping that front AHC pressures are not too high since I am not spacing out the front struts yet at this point. We'll see.
Would love to hear any feedback and advice from you all.
E&E Rear Shock Spacer: Rear shock spacer | E&E Off-Road - https://www.ee-offroading.com/product-page/rear-shock-spacer
Dr KDSS BOTCK kit: B.O.T.C.K - Bolt On TrackBar Correction kit Land Cruiser 200 series/ LX 570 - https://drkdss.com/products/botck-bolt-on-trackbar-correction-kit-land-cruiser
ARB/OME UCAs: Upper Control Arms UCA0001 - https://store.arbusa.com/upper-control-arms-uca0001/
On the AHC sensor lift and larger tires. I've made some observations and am making some more changes. I know @TeCKis300 is going to give me a hard time on this one
Before I describe some of the slight changes, let me preface it with the following:
* If you want big tires and you're on AHC, you DO NOT need to do what I'm about to describe. Just follow the steps I laid out in the video a few posts previous to this one in this thread. Keep your sensor lift to around 1.25-1.5" inches above stock and you'll be fine. Stock suspension geometry is great within that range, and your LX will still drive well.
* I'm making the changes below because I got the itch to go just a tiny bit higher, which I did a few days ago. And now I'm starting to feel the effects of caster & camber being too far out of spec under acceleration. And also starting to feel the very slight squirreliness of the rear end around turns uneven roads.
* Don't be like me. Stick to 1.25-1.5" of sensor lift, and be happy with it.
Now, if you have an itch to scratch and want to go 2" inches or higher worth of sensor lift, read on. I may do these changes and revert back later. Or I may keep them in place. We'll see.
In this first round of modifications. I'll be going with:
* E&E Rear Shock Spacers
* 30mm rear right coil spring spacer. 40mm rear left (driver) coil spring spacer.
- The above 2 items will help to get the rear AHC struts and rear springs back within stock specs for compression/extension/pressure. And will also get the rear driver spring height closer to the rear passenger side spring. If I remember correctly from my last LX570, the rear driver side spring is slightly shorter from the factory, which is why you notice on stock LX570s the driver side will sometimes be lower when it is parked.
* BOTCK (bolt on trackbar correction kit) for the rear panhard bar relocation. This will get the panhard bar back to the correct angle it was designed to operate in.
* ARB OME UCA0001 front UCAs (upper control arms). This will get me around + 3 degrees of caster and 1.5 degrees of negative camber. At current maxed out AHC sensor lift the caster is noticeably off during acceleration when the front end lifts slightly, and there is too much positive camber which is visibly noticeable from the abrasion on the outer tire edges in the front. The ARB OME/ UCA0001 will help get these back within spec. I looked at the SPC UCAs as well but I don't want the adjustability. I just want bolt in and go. And the ARB OME UCAs also look like they have the bracket for the AHD sensor arm.
After the above modifications are complete I will get the alignment redone incase it needs adjustment. Then report back. I'll also be checking AHC pressures with Techstream. My hope is that drivability improves, even while at max height. I also am hoping that front AHC pressures are not too high since I am not spacing out the front struts yet at this point. We'll see.
Would love to hear any feedback and advice from you all.
E&E Rear Shock Spacer: Rear shock spacer | E&E Off-Road - https://www.ee-offroading.com/product-page/rear-shock-spacer
Dr KDSS BOTCK kit: B.O.T.C.K - Bolt On TrackBar Correction kit Land Cruiser 200 series/ LX 570 - https://drkdss.com/products/botck-bolt-on-trackbar-correction-kit-land-cruiser
ARB/OME UCAs: Upper Control Arms UCA0001 - https://store.arbusa.com/upper-control-arms-uca0001/
I can't fault tinkering and we wouldn't discover new recipes without doing so. I cut my AHC shocks and extended them after all
.The E&E rear spacer is the ticket and really gets that rear end flexy. You'll want to do something for the front too, to maintain weight carrying capacity on that axle, but also usable droop travel in AHC H. I wonder if @turbo8 would be interested in developing an 18mm top spacer for the front coilover...a one stop shop for AHC long travel.
Keep an eye on the UCA caster adjustment as that'll bring the front tire swing closer to the body mount. I'm not sure caster will fix the feathering on the tire shoulders as that tends to be a symptom of scrub radius from the aggressive offsets. I'd agree some more camber can help there.
I'd also highly recommend lowering the bump stops all around. Really don't want to see those pretty fenders get taken out.
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Oh thats right. I forgot you extended the rears. On my old LX470 I had home made rear "shock extenders" I used to lift the rear strut assembly. That worked great for me back then. I really wonder how much of a difference the rear driver side spring is on this 2017. Going to try and measure them when i have the springs out.I can't fault tinkering and we wouldn't discover new recipes without doing so. I cut my AHC shocks and extended them after all
The E&E rear spacer is the ticket and really gets that rear end flexy. You'll want to do something for the front too, to maintain weight carrying capacity on that axle, but also usable droop travel in AHC H. I wonder if @turbo8 would be interested in developing an 18mm top spacer for the front coilover...a one stop shop for AHC long travel.
Keep an eye on the UCA caster adjustment as that'll bring the front tire swing closer to the body mount. I'm not sure caster will fix the feathering on the tire shoulders as that tends to be a symptom of scrub radius from the aggressive offsets. I'd agree some more camber can help there.
I'd also highly recommend lowering the bump stops all around. Really don't want to see those pretty fenders get taken out.
Good call on the UCA putting the tire closer to certain things on the front. I think on the 16+ LX the lower front bumper is much closer to the tire than on the 08-15. I am hoping that still clears with the changes and doesn't require bumper cutting, but we'll see.
Which bump stops did you go with? I'm just starting to look at what is available. I can tell you that the front tires when in L are stuffed about 1/4 - 1/3" into the front fenders. So it'd be nice peace of mind to extend those for sure.
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If it is just a spacer and everyone agrees on the thickness, I can do that.I can't fault tinkering and we wouldn't discover new recipes without doing so. I cut my AHC shocks and extended them after all
The E&E rear spacer is the ticket and really gets that rear end flexy. You'll want to do something for the front too, to maintain weight carrying capacity on that axle, but also usable droop travel in AHC H. I wonder if @turbo8 would be interested in developing an 18mm top spacer for the front coilover...a one stop shop for AHC long travel.
Keep an eye on the UCA caster adjustment as that'll bring the front tire swing closer to the body mount. I'm not sure caster will fix the feathering on the tire shoulders as that tends to be a symptom of scrub radius from the aggressive offsets. I'd agree some more camber can help there.
I'd also highly recommend lowering the bump stops all around. Really don't want to see those pretty fenders get taken out.
back in the AHC LT thread it seemed like no one could agree on the spacer thickness so I kind of gave up.
Make sense and I get people want choice. I'm running 17mm worth of stack over a couple years now. Balancing between CV angles for durability and shock length margin so it doesn't become the limiter and explode during a g-out. I've bottomed out the suspension hard as well as putting down power with heavy throttle drooped. So I can say with some confidence this dimension works which is why I'm recommending an 18mm spacer.
Thinking out loud, and I'm not sure how this might affect manufacturing cost. Instead of a single 18mm piece, perhaps offer 11mm and 7mm spacers? 11mm so it can take the place of the OEM 10mm leveling spacer for LCs as a competing product. Then mix and match sets to get 7+7= 14mm (possibly applicable to LCs too), 7+11 = 18mm, 11+11 = 22mm.
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I used my son's 3d printer to print some fun little valve stem caps. Yes, I am a dork.
Love this! Give me a price for a set mailed to Sydney Australia?
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That would probably be costly to get from Texas to you. If you have someone local to you with a Bambu 3d printer they can print it from the file that is on their site here: Tire Valve cup LEXUS by pelotas84 - https://makerworld.com/en/models/607456?from=search#profileId-530375
Nice write ups; keep them coming.
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Well, it was time to sell this beautiful beast. I sold it to Autonation on Saturday. If anyone is interested in buying it, they have it listed for $49k. Currently has 67k miles. If anyone wants to buy it and has questions about it I'm happy to hop on a quick call. Here's the link to their listing. They don't have any photos posted yet. They are selling it as I sold it, with the lift, tires, wheels, etc...
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Why was it time to sell? What are you replacing it with?
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Haven't replaced it with anything yet. I travel quite a bit for work and over 2.5 years I only put 10k miles on it. It was just time time to let someone else enjoy it. I'm sure I'll get the itch again and pick up another LX. I've had so many LX/LC's over the last 25yrs, I just always seem to come right back to another one
That makes sense. I keep stuff way too long lol.Haven't replaced it with anything yet. I travel quite a bit for work and over 2.5 years I only put 10k miles on it. It was just time time to let someone else enjoy it. I'm sure I'll get the itch again and pick up another LX. I've had so many LX/LC's over the last 25yrs, I just always seem to come right back to another one
Although I’ve thought about selling our 570 because it’s my wife’s daily. She’d like to be in something newer (and maybe bigger)
congrats on the sale
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Finally got around to uploading and editing the video for the installation of the rear spring packers and the E&E Off Road rear shock spacers:
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Video of the Dr KDSS BOTCK Panhard Bar / Track Bar relocation kit installation. I highly recommend you do this if you are lifting your LC200 or LX570 1.75" or more.
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