Builds 1997 FZJ80 to HDJ80 1HD-FTE + H152F

[TurboDennis]

Absolutely, why not? A mechanical fan always does and always is the way to go.

You simply have a thicker “cooling pack”. With the correct shroud, fan, good working fan clutch and proper seal of all that there is no reason an OEM radiator won’t do the trick. Being a manual trans is even better as the trans cooler lines don’t exist nor does the cooler.

These days companies like PDI make bolt in super nice large intercooler kits that work and fit. In my opinion if you are taking any diesel above stock specs you need the largest intercooler you can fit along with a tip top shape cooling system as well as an EGT gauge. None of these things will hurt you in a stock configuration either but are certainly needed when modding up any diesel.

Cheers

There's no argument that a good intercooler plays a very important role in a forced induction system (diesel or gas alike).

Im certainly no expert on thermodynamics, but looking at the picture of that intercooler, i would say that it completely blocks approx 70% of airflow of its' surface area. And the intercooler itself is taking up 80% or so of the area that is available for airflow to the radiator. So now you got a little bit of "cool" air (ambient temperature, so could be 100+ degree) flowing around the intercooler, and some air flowing through the intercooler which is now significantly hotter than ambient. Both of these streams are then flowing through a REALLY hot A/C condenser, which not only heats it up even more, but also reduces the airflow further. So it's hard to argue that the cooling capacity (which is the function of volume and temperature of air flowing through it) wont be reduced significantly, regardless of what kind of shape the FACTORY cooling system is in (which was never designed by engineers with the IC in mind). And dont forget that a modded diesel will produce more heat than a stock one.

Another thing to consider is that you rarely (never?) see factory Toyotas fitted with an intercooler mounted in that manner (blocking THAT much of the airflow through rad).

Again, these are just my personal thoughts. Would be interesting to put a temp sensor on the radiator outlet and collect some real data on water temp before and after IC install.

 

[Indestructible 47]

That's a healthy looking intercooler. One thing i always wondered about... (and the reason i'm still debating IC for my own build) - when you're driving in 100+ degree weather, turbo pumping 30PSI through that bad boy, A/C on full blast (with 200-250 psi in condenser right behind the IC ), is the radiator behind it all gonna get sufficient amount of cool air through it?

I have personally towed with my 1hd-fte set up the same as this build, a car trailer with a full size hj47 on the back. 9 hours straight, 120km/h, 3000rpm a/c blasting, 45°c out (110°f+). No problems with heat whatsoever. However, I have since upgraded my fan clutch, I reckon that's a good thing to do.

 

[SNLC]

There's no argument that a good intercooler plays a very important role in a forced induction system (diesel or gas alike).

Im certainly no expert on thermodynamics, but looking at the picture of that intercooler, i would say that it completely blocks approx 70% of airflow of its' surface area. And the intercooler itself is taking up 80% or so of the area that is available for airflow to the radiator. So now you got a little bit of "cool" air (ambient temperature, so could be 100+ degree) flowing around the intercooler, and some air flowing through the intercooler which is now significantly hotter than ambient. Both of these streams are then flowing through a REALLY hot A/C condenser, which not only heats it up even more, but also reduces the airflow further. So it's hard to argue that the cooling capacity (which is the function of volume and temperature of air flowing through it) wont be reduced significantly, regardless of what kind of shape the FACTORY cooling system is in (which was never designed by engineers with the IC in mind). And dont forget that a modded diesel will produce more heat than a stock one.

Another thing to consider is that you rarely (never?) see factory Toyotas fitted with an intercooler mounted in that manner (blocking THAT much of the airflow through rad).

Again, these are just my personal thoughts. Would be interesting to put a temp sensor on the radiator outlet and collect some real data on water temp before and after IC install.

You certainly sound like a “negative Nancy” in your replies.

Examples; “your o-rings suck, your batteries suck, your intercooler sucks”, and “I am no expert but you are doing it wrong”.

I been doing these kind of builds for awhile.

Cheers

 

[TurboDennis]

You certainly sound like a “negative Nancy” in your replies.

I been doing these kind of builds for awhile.

Cheers

Not at all - sorry if it came off like that. Im loving the build and it's definitely one of the best 80 builds around.

Im just considering some of the concepts used here, and trying to think critically how they would apply to other builds (including my own). Not my intention to be negative at all.
I'll refrain from posting anything that can be perceived as "negative" in the future.

 

[jomelo]

Not at all - sorry if it came off like that. Im loving the build and it's definitely one of the best 80 builds around.

Im just considering some of the concepts used here, and trying to think critically how they would apply to other builds (including my own). Not my intention to be negative at all.
I'll refrain from posting anything that can be perceived as "negative" in the future.

This is a pretty popular setup for 80 series in Australia. Not recreating the wheel. If it doesn’t work we will try something else and report back. Should be fine.

 

[Jorgito]

Just out of curiosity - with the new turbo do you plan any performance chip? If yes then which one? Also would be interesting who in the US would tune the 1hd-fte up.
There is either Unichip or dte considered in Australia, surely there are other boxes but just heard horror stories about those. Did you already decided to have the crossover delete, doesn't bring any benefit other than the nice look of the engine bay, also as you had the PDI intercooler for the 1hd-ft you would not need to purchase the additional piping.

You would have to purchase this very nice piece of steel:

If crossover delete then the shutdown solenoid should be fooled - http://1hdfte.com.au/blank-10/

Also, why not use the water outlet ready for the temp sensor:

 

[SNLC]

Building axles.

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

I guess I forgot to post these.

Once all done wiring speakers and such we coated the inside of the doors with SEM cavity wax and installed new vapor barriers. We also installed all new clips in the door cards and with that doors are done.

Cheers

 

[FMC80]

The attention to detail is next level in this entire thread.

 

[SNLC]

The attention to detail is next level in this entire thread.

Thanks

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

Axles are back under the Cruiser.

@Onur had sent us all new bearings, seals, flanges and hardware for the 3rds. Gears were in good shape so just a rebuild with new parts in the diffs.

Cheers

 

[jomelo]

 

[wngrog]

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I can’t believe you put used ass gears back in those axles......

 

[SNLC]

I can’t believe you put used ass gears back in those axles......

Why not? They set up just fine and looked fine.

Cheers

 

[wngrog]

Why not? They set up just fine and looked fine.

Cheers

You know Im joking

 

[Czechmate]

How does the old saying go....

something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue.......something used?

 

[SNLC]

Our wiring harness and related goodies showed up from Australia today.

I went straight to installing it.

We got some things to work on tomorrow but our next goal is getting all the wiring plugged in and firing up the FTE for first run and wiring test.

Cheers

 

[wngrog]

Woo hoo

 

[SNLC]

I forgot, we did plug this in just so we know how it gets plugged in.

Cheers

 

[SNLC]

Just out of curiosity - with the new turbo do you plan any performance chip? If yes then which one? Also would be interesting who in the US would tune the 1hd-fte up.
There is either Unichip or dte considered in Australia, surely there are other boxes but just heard horror stories about those. Did you already decided to have the crossover delete, doesn't bring any benefit other than the nice look of the engine bay, also as you had the PDI intercooler for the 1hd-ft you would not need to purchase the additional piping.

You would have to purchase this very nice piece of steel:
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If crossover delete then the shutdown solenoid should be fooled - http://1hdfte.com.au/blank-10/

Also, why not use the water outlet ready for the temp sensor:
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Yes we need to update PDI intercooler piping. I been working on that for some time, it’s happening.

Be patient my friend, in the end all your questions will be answered.

Cheers