I contacted Toyota. They said they do not have this issue on file. They asked me if I had taken it to the dealership and when I told them I had taken it to my Toyota mechanic, they said they couldn’t do anything given it hadn’t been documented.
100 Caught fire & gas tank venting concerns
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I contacted Toyota. They said they do not have this issue on file. They asked me if I had taken it to the dealership and when I told them I had taken it to my Toyota mechanic, they said they couldn’t do anything given it hadn’t been documented.
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I’ve reported to my local lexus dealer and contacted lexus USA a yr ago. The dealer could no replicate so there was no fix. I showed video and pictures yet nothing was done. Lexus USA referred me to the dealer as they do not and cannot diagnose over the phone, it was more customer service complaints they dealt with. I did complain...
Last I reported it to nhtsa. If more reports go out then something might be done.
Problem is that most people who buy the rig new don’t wheel so reports aren’t made early on. Some people that wheel just deal with it. Now there more people acquiring the rig and taking it up in elevation in heat there’s more incidences.
I’ve reported to my local lexus dealer and contacted lexus USA a yr ago. The dealer could no replicate so there was no fix. I showed video and pictures yet nothing was done. Lexus USA referred me to the dealer as they do not and cannot diagnose over the phone, it was more customer service complaints they dealt with. I did complain...
Last I reported it to nhtsa. If more reports go out then something might be done.
Problem is that most people who buy the rig new don’t wheel so reports aren’t made early on. Some people that wheel just deal with it. Now there more people acquiring the rig and taking it up in elevation in heat there’s more incidences.
I’m going to be “that guy” and ask, is there an attorney among us? Can we reach out to the owner of the burnt down LC and discuss a class action lawsuits.
I’m not one to go around litigating on every little thing, if ever, but this is a major issue and it’s not going away. it has effected many people and the only way for Toyota to step up, in my opinion, is to litigate. Any thoughts amongst the group?
I’m not one to go around litigating on every little thing, if ever, but this is a major issue and it’s not going away. it has effected many people and the only way for Toyota to step up, in my opinion, is to litigate. Any thoughts amongst the group?
Don’t waste your time with a dealership.
You’ll need plenty of documentation but this will be a product liability conversation but you’d need at least two documented instances for,this to be worth pursuing. I know an attorney that worked on the tire issue years ago, who would be well suited but I don’t know enough ab this to recommend it to him.
Next bet is the government agency.
You’ll need plenty of documentation but this will be a product liability conversation but you’d need at least two documented instances for,this to be worth pursuing. I know an attorney that worked on the tire issue years ago, who would be well suited but I don’t know enough ab this to recommend it to him.
Next bet is the government agency.
joseywales
Renaissance Redneck
Well, you can bet whoever the insurance underwriter is on the 100 that burned up will be looking for someone to blame. If they get steered in the right direction they will have the resources to make sh it happen.
FWIW several of us were on the same trail a day or two prior (we were on Cerro Gordo & Swainsea Grade on Weds 10/25/17). Me in my 1999 UZJ100 and friends in an 80 and diesel 60.
My main fuel tank fuel level was between 1/3 and 1/2 full and the aux tank was full (25-gallons). No perceived boiling of fuel and no fume odor coming off the evap canister.
I have experienced the noxious smell from the venting of the evap canister but have never had a problem with over-pressurized symptoms as some have described at the gas cap other than the usual mild depressurization when removing the fuel cap when gassing up.
Living at 4,500’ I do plenty of higher elevation driving all the up to 12,650’ on trails in a variety of ambient weather temps.
Sorry to hear about the burn down event but happy no one was physically hurt.
My main fuel tank fuel level was between 1/3 and 1/2 full and the aux tank was full (25-gallons). No perceived boiling of fuel and no fume odor coming off the evap canister.
I have experienced the noxious smell from the venting of the evap canister but have never had a problem with over-pressurized symptoms as some have described at the gas cap other than the usual mild depressurization when removing the fuel cap when gassing up.
Living at 4,500’ I do plenty of higher elevation driving all the up to 12,650’ on trails in a variety of ambient weather temps.
Sorry to hear about the burn down event but happy no one was physically hurt.
sorry to here about the burn out truly a nightmare situation and I hope insurance can step up and get you back going again in a 100s. Good luck and glad all are ok..
Speaking of insurance ... how many of us are truly covered to the real value of our rigs if it were to be 100% destroyed?
Most insurance coverage w/o riders won’t cover all the accessory mods many of us have done to our rigs.
Sorry for the hyjack ... should be a thread of its own.
Most insurance coverage w/o riders won’t cover all the accessory mods many of us have done to our rigs.
Sorry for the hyjack ... should be a thread of its own.
that would be a good thread
Spressomon, you have the same symptom as my 200. The evap canister is within a closed loop sys only opening into the intake manifold when the eng is running and the ECU tells it to vent. If you are smelling fuel vapors from the evaporation canister (or someplace) something is wrong. The US EPA would not allow a fuel delivery sys to vent fuel vapors unless it was an over pressure safety release. nah, not even then.
I have not had the fuel bubbling problem, pressure from the tank area when removing the fuel cap. In fact I do not even get a vacume release sound like my 80 series and all the other cars I have now that I think about it.
safecare.gov seems to be the next step if you have had any of these symptoms.
I have not had the fuel bubbling problem, pressure from the tank area when removing the fuel cap. In fact I do not even get a vacume release sound like my 80 series and all the other cars I have now that I think about it.
safecare.gov seems to be the next step if you have had any of these symptoms.
^ The fuel vapor purge from the evaporation canister only happens on hot days, full fuel tanks and generally when slow go steep climbs. And probably exacerbated by having a total (with both tanks 100% full) of 50-gallons being served by a system that was designed (at best 
) to serve 25-gallons of petrol.
) to serve 25-gallons of petrol.
joseywales
Renaissance Redneck
The thought behind the venting is strictly to keep raw fuel vapor from entering the atmosphere, correct? If so, having a gutted fuel cap that vents both ways seems too easy a solution. I'm sure a cel would come on, but would it be recurring or clearable? Would it affect the operation of the fuel system in a negative way (ie: kill your fuel pump or?) to run it this way?
PabloCruise
SILVER Star
This is great, I bet it will make more sense walking through the steps on the actual vehicle...
The CEL would be recurring, but it is a emmisions fault that probably has no effect to the running, bringing the CEL on if the cap is removed must be a US thing, as I have never heard of it before and I have driven without a cap with no ill effect.
The problem being is that the fuel is boiling over, so there must be excessive heat to make this happen. If you have positive excessive pressure in the tank this would actually increase the boiling point, like the coolant system. Removing the cap and dropping the pressure sends the boiling into overdrive, again like removing the radiator cap.
Boiling point of gasoline is too vague as it is a compound liquid, and different mixes will alter the boiling point considerably, so I have read.
If your fuel is boiling under pressure then it would boil easier with no pressure. Now if the tank is under vacuum, then this would make it worse.
The main thing to find out is, is it boiling over or pressurising out of the tank.
The higher the altitude, the lower the atmospheric pressure, which lowers the boiling point temp. Is this what you're asking? I think someone mentioned this in the case of water earlier in the thread. When the vapor pressure of the fluid is the same as the Patm then boiling occurs. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. It's been two decades since my last thermo class.
hoser
SILVER Star
Do we need more ethano?! 
