Wits End Turbo Owners (9 Viewers)

[spyduh]

My concern is the P0172 may not be responsible for your engine dying, that's a possible vacuum issue. Have you done a smoke test to see where there might be a leak? I know the engine is freshly built before the turbo went in. Also your coolant temp sensor could be another potential issue, if it's the original one.

I too have a leak at the J pipe and it's a loud leak under throttle but my engine never stalled. In order to fix the leak, I have to remove the turbo and check the flange for trueness.

P0172: System too rich (Fuel trim): Trouble Areas: fule line pressure; injector leak--blockage; heated O2 sensor malfunction; mass air flow meter; engine coolant temp. sensor

Yup did a smoke test with some local MUD (@CJK @meatloaf5000) turbo owners near me a few weeks ago. Nothing was leaking when we smoked it out for 10 mins. Actually, after that smoke session, I did a trip the next weekend and that's when I got the P0172 CEL code. Coincidence maybe? No idea...

The engine coolant temp sensor was replaced during the rebuild with a brand new OEM one from Souq.

I was thinking the stall at low/stopping speeds was due to the EFI relay being old and getting hot. I did replace that just last week but haven't driven it long enough or HOT enough to rule out the EFI relay fixed the stall.

I'm going to check the Jpipe bolts and every exhaust manifold side and turbo bolt while I'm in there later. I have no idea what this is at this point but will keep troubleshooting till its gone.

 

[alia176]

Sounds like you're on the right track, stick with it!!

 

[fawndog]

So... What are the chances of getting one of these turbo kits ?

 

[spyduh]

So... What are the chances of getting one of these turbo kits ?

This is the wrong thread for this type of question and is for turbo owners to communicate with each other and not clutter up the main thread.

You'll have better luck trying the original thread here: Bolt on turbo kit - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/bolt-on-turbo-kit.992637/ or contacting him directly.

80 Series 1FZ Wits' End Turbo Kit- OBD2 only

80 Series 1FZ Wits' End Turbo Kit- OBD2 only (WET-1)

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[OutlawMike]

This one

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Sweet Jesus, the stealerships want over $300 for that fuel pump. Is the Denso 951-0014 the same pump? That goes for around $200.

 

[PDXDave67]

This is the wrong thread for this type of question and is for turbo owners to communicate with each other and not clutter up the main thread.

You'll have better luck trying the original thread here: Bolt on turbo kit - https://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/bolt-on-turbo-kit.992637/ or contacting him directly.

80 Series 1FZ Wits' End Turbo Kit- OBD2 only

80 Series 1FZ Wits' End Turbo Kit- OBD2 only (WET-1)

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The odds are pretty thin until all the back orders are cleared up.
Then he “might” produce some more kits, but I wouldn’t expect it till the supply chain issues work themselves out.

 

[NLXTACY]

The odds are pretty thin until all the back orders are cleared up.
Then he “might” produce some more kits, but I wouldn’t expect it till the supply chain issues work themselves out.

Ding ding ding

 

[bwakeling]

for those that installed an aftermarket oil pressure gauge where did you tie it in? I have the innovate oil temp and pressure gauge.

 

[toyotaaddict83]

for those that installed an aftermarket oil pressure gauge where did you tie it in? I have the innovate oil temp and pressure gauge.

I am going to assume that I have the exact same gauge as you so - I have installed the oil pressure gauge to the OEM factory sensor, using the pieces included in Joey's kit and/or what was included from Innovate. For oil temperature, I have had to add an oil filter spacer and purchased an oil temperature sensor. All of this was then wired into the Innovate gauge. Hope that helps!

 

[CJK]

Saw this under hood paint job while watching a video this morning.

@NLXTACY - Custom hood liner for next Wits End Product??

 

[NLXTACY]

Saw this under hood paint job while watching a video this morning.

@NLXTACY - Custom hood liner for next Wits End Product??

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It’s a blank canvas

 

[SJWantsADiesel]

Long thread and pardon me because I did not read all the posts - but curious, what do turbo owners think of reliability with the turbo setup? And parts - if WitsEnd stops supplying spares for any reason, what would it mean for long term support? I am on the fence right now and with the order backlog, doesn’t matter because it isn’t like I could start the project tomorrow. Just to be clear, I am not afraid of Turbos in general - in fact, having a CJ3A rebuilt with a TDI motor as we speak.

 

[scottryana]

Long thread and pardon me because I did not read all the posts - but curious, what do turbo owners think of reliability with the turbo setup? And parts - if WitsEnd stops supplying spares for any reason, what would it mean for long term support? I am on the fence right now and with the order backlog, doesn’t matter because it isn’t like I could start the project tomorrow. Just to be clear, I am not afraid of Turbos in general - in fact, having a CJ3A rebuilt with a TDI motor as we speak.

When I spec'd the components it was a major priority for reliability and rebuildability. The turbo is a stock Borg Warner that can be serviced, the wastegate is a stock Tial wastegate in a common size. The only components that are custom for this setup are plumbing and tubing. Lines can be made by any decent hydraulic shop and the tubing shouldn't ever fail.

 

[NLXTACY]

I’ll be supporting this setup for many many years. I’ve been collecting spares as part of support which has been the plan since day one.

 

[alia176]

Long thread and pardon me because I did not read all the posts - but curious, what do turbo owners think of reliability with the turbo setup? And parts - if WitsEnd stops supplying spares for any reason, what would it mean for long term support? I am on the fence right now and with the order backlog, doesn’t matter because it isn’t like I could start the project tomorrow. Just to be clear, I am not afraid of Turbos in general - in fact, having a CJ3A rebuilt with a TDI motor as we speak.

I know where Joey lives

In all seriousness, I have 100% confidence in this system and that is saying something because I thrive on camping in remote locations.

The important bits are off the shelf and the one off things don't break. For example, the custom made vac tee for the boost signal, aka Peace pipe. Or the custom made Tee for the oil press sending unit and the oil feed to the trubo; it's just a machined piece that isn't going to break unless I hit it.

It's a robust system but you DO have to make sure your engine is up to snuff, ie, no vac leaks, exhaust leaks, coolant system is in top shape, etc. The turbo will amplify everything that's aging or wrong with your system

 

[SJWantsADiesel]

I know where Joey lives

In all seriousness, I have 100% confidence in this system and that is saying something because I thrive on camping in remote locations.

The important bits are off the shelf and the one off things don't break. For example, the custom made vac tee for the boost signal, aka Peace pipe. Or the custom made Tee for the oil press sending unit and the oil feed to the trubo; it's just a machined piece that isn't going to break unless I hit it.

It's a robust system but you DO have to make sure your engine is up to snuff, ie, no vac leaks, exhaust leaks, coolant system is in top shape, etc. The turbo will amplify everything that's aging or wrong with your system

Thanks, that helps. I got my 80 at about 250k miles. Since then, pretty much everything in the engine bay has been serviced - hoses, seals, wires, coolant system, exhaust. Ton of preventive maintenance including intake cleanup - except haven’t done head gasket and any transmission maintenance (did all fluids).

It’s now at 265k miles. I am considering doing head gasket and was wondering if that’s a good time to also put in the turbo? While the head is off, I can swap out other internals and get beefier studs etc for all the additional stress.

 

[SJWantsADiesel]

I’ll be supporting this setup for many many years. I’ve been collecting spares as part of support which has been the plan since day one.

Sorry, I meant no offense to you. I’ve been watching and reading about all the work and research you put into it. And above everything, getting the setup CARB certified otherwise it would’ve left us CA owners in the cold You probably could’ve avoided the CARB certification and still sold a ton of these so again, thanks. I am just trying to be doubly sure all Ts are crossed and I’s are dotted Hope the supply chain catches up in a few months so I can put my order in.

 

[alia176]

Thanks, that helps. I got my 80 at about 250k miles. Since then, pretty much everything in the engine bay has been serviced - hoses, seals, wires, coolant system, exhaust. Ton of preventive maintenance including intake cleanup - except haven’t done head gasket and any transmission maintenance (did all fluids).

It’s now at 265k miles. I am considering doing head gasket and was wondering if that’s a good time to also put in the turbo? While the head is off, I can swap out other internals and get beefier studs etc for all the additional stress.

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. I don't know if you need to spend more money on strong internals but if it makes you feel better go for it. You didn't ask for this advice but I suggest pulling the engine out vs just the head. You know, there'll be other $hit that need replacing, including the upper arch pan seal, rear main seal, etc so just do it all at once. Installing that turbo on the engine sitting on a stand gotta be way better than doing it in the engine bay. Again, just my .02 cents.

 

[-Spike-]

Sorry, I meant no offense to you. I’ve been watching and reading about all the work and research you put into it. And above everything, getting the setup CARB certified otherwise it would’ve left us CA owners in the cold You probably could’ve avoided the CARB certification and still sold a ton of these so again, thanks. I am just trying to be doubly sure all Ts are crossed and I’s are dotted Hope the supply chain catches up in a few months so I can put my order in.

You should probably read this post carefully, regarding CARB. I don't think anything has changed (publicly, anyway) since then, but I could be wrong.

 

[CJK]

You should probably read this post carefully, regarding CARB. I don't think anything has changed (publicly, anyway) since then, but I could be wrong.

Yup, hasn’t passed CARB, yet… also hasn’t stopped a number of us. Passing smog is a “future me problem” that can be solved with $ or time every 2 years.

The emissions are no worse than pre-turbo so I don’t feel the least bad about skating.