Fair enough, quick somebody do the math and tell us how different the ratio would be with the t-case gearing and 4:10 or stock t-case gear and 4:88's in the pumpkins
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Fair enough, quick somebody do the math and tell us how different the ratio would be with the t-case gearing and 4:10 or stock t-case gear and 4:88's in the pumpkins
Quality is not the point. Buying anything from China, if there is an alternative, is the point. Buy guns!
Fair enough questions. By my claculations it would be lower then stock with 4.11's and and a bit lower with 4.88's and more lower with 5.29's.
That's only if you use the smaller shifter to the right of the bigger shifter and pull all the way back.
Clearly your thinking is foggy. Crack kills but I agree that Chinese crap should be left to sink to bottom of the ocean.
NLXTACY
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LFD2037
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LINUS
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No, I don't have any idea the country of manufacture for either Marlin or TG units - I was simply liking Cardona's coined term that somehow became fact.
You're right - we need to quit calling them really anything, TG's could be cut right here in 'Merica for all I know. Maybe theirs are just $3oo cheaper.
bloc
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Since everyone seemed to miss this: Positive material identification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Positive Material Identification (PMI) is the analysis of a metallic alloy to establish composition by reading the quantities by percentage of its constituent elements. Typical methods for PMI include X-ray fluorescence (XRF) and optical emission spectrometry (OES).
I used to work in a machine shop and have to send samples off for PMI testing.. though even in that environment I don't know whether the testing is destructive. It'd be interesting to see how Marlin/TG compare to OEM.. especially if it didn't require eating the cost of each of the gears just for the data.
Edit: also, will PMI tell us anything about heat treatment? or just the alloy itself?
890man
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Well, Marlin states right in his description that his are made in Japan. TG says nothing. Im not getting this 300 dollar difference unless im not seeing the super discounted pricing everyone else is seeing. Marlin is $799 and TG is $628.95. A difference of 170.05. The TG gears may turn out to be great but I would stick with marlin for that small amount.
Here's a great side by side gear ratio calculator free to use. http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html
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Biggest problem with trail gear products is quality control. You nay get a set that has good metal and the next one on the line was all the crap. That can be worked out with quality control but then the price goes up. Anything that trail gear states is made in the USA is made in china and finished in Fresno. For example their bumpers were being bent and tack welded in china and finished welded in the USA and they were "Made in the USA".
I made one purchase from them once. They gave me pick up springs for my 4Runner and it looked like I was driving around with a 2F in the back. They said I did something during installation and there was no warranty. They have been on my s*** list ever since.
Yes, Marlins are made in Japan by the same gear cutter that makes gears for Toyota. Quality control costs.
I made one purchase from them once. They gave me pick up springs for my 4Runner and it looked like I was driving around with a 2F in the back. They said I did something during installation and there was no warranty. They have been on my s*** list ever since.
Yes, Marlins are made in Japan by the same gear cutter that makes gears for Toyota. Quality control costs.
Alot of assumptions in this thread, with zero knowloedge of THIS particular product.
So here is my assumption. If you are building a rock crawler, maybe Marlin is best for you. But I bet for the average weekend warrier, overland type use these would perform just fine.
So here is my assumption. If you are building a rock crawler, maybe Marlin is best for you. But I bet for the average weekend warrier, overland type use these would perform just fine.
To hell with anything made in China! I don't care if it's diamond coated at no extra charge! If there is an alternative I will pay the premium.
I guess my point is; do we know for fact that's where these gears are made?
I've got two years and thousands of miles on my transfer case with the Marlin low range gears installed in my FZJ80...zero issues.
1973Guppie
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exactly, I think we are just making assumptions, I would just like to know the facts and then make my decision....
NLXTACY
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Exactly! So until proven otherwise...Marlin!
LFD2037
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Does TG have ANYTHING not made in China? I don't know, it's a serious question. I'd guess not.
Flip over whatever device you typed this message on and tell me where it was made.
I'm running TG axles in the front of my 80, they are great. I like that they are gun drilled allowing me to easily grease the birfs. I don't like that they are made in PRC, but they do seem to be holding up well.
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