Thoughts From the 200 Crew On the LC250 Reveal
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Dude, can you go back to the GX forum, please?
nor_cal_cyclist
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Gotta agree...my garage has a 2019 200 series right next to my 2010 C2S Cab, with a spot saved for my 40 after it's "done"
Whenever I decide to make the switch from my LC200, it will either be a used Mercedes G550 or Lexus GX550 Overtrail for me.
I'd love to try a G-Wagen on for size but my better judgement just won't let me lol.
Nope I can’t deal with it
I looked further and found sales data on the LX570 from the same source as the LC200. I update my post on tab 17. Whether that is accurate I do not know, seems more reasonable than the 21k number in the first source.
In addition, I remain of the opinion the delta in numbers is not significant. Both were not sold much. Seems the LX600 with most models over $100k will slow LX sales, future will tell. I know my wife thought $81.5k for our 2021 LC200 was too much. I convinced her based on capability (also tow our travel trailer), reliability and linear depreciation it was ok. Saying that with a straight face about the LX600 (linear depreciation) would be a stretch. That thing is just too much new.
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From what I’ve observed on this board (and your comments on LC related Instagram posts) your content is 99% antagonistic and 1% constructive. Maybe tighten up a little and be a big boy if you’re going to participate over here?
Thanks.
Both of you STOP!
Us ethier ignore button or don't read the others post. Next step is to delete posts
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I apologize. Only point I’m trying to drive home is both the 200 and the 250 are fantastic vehicles. But to write off one in favor of the other is a mistake.
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xeuxaz
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I’m in the same boat. If the GX OT ends up being available at MSRP with no markup (Arizona) I would be tempted to do it in 2024 or 2025.
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Had the 300 been unveiled in U.S. marketability this mild spat would not have reared it's head and all would be golden.
That is not relevant to the way we conduct the forum
Its a smaller vehicle with less features in base trim with a 4 popper electric assist engine... sort of expected
Yeah, but at 4500+ lbs, off-road capable, pretty good power output, Toyota quality.......that is pretty unbeatable IMHO.Its a smaller vehicle with less features in base trim with a 4 popper electric assist engine... sort of expected
This is what has me most interested in the 250. Even if you add some bells and whistles along with a mild lift and some 32-33’s it sounds like 20+ mpg combined will be attainable.
xeuxaz
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It's a turbo motor. If you keep it stock, it'll get the EPA mileage. However, under boost, it’ll get poor mileage. Look at all the third-gen tundras pushing 35s/37s getting 13mpg. I have personal experience with this. The Tundra got close to EPA figures stock and dropped to v8 mileage after tires. I would worry about the hybrid system's engagement issues with the bigger tires. A few posters on the Tundra forums have mentioned this problem with the hybrid on bigger tires. I have a 200 and a 2023 Tundra on 37s. The speedometer reads 70mph when you're going 78mph. Not a big deal, however, for those with the Hybrid system (I know a few locals), when the calibration is that far out of whack, it behaves funky. Specifically, under medium/heavy throttle, it has trouble knowing when to engage. The hybrid on the newer Toyotas is not just straight power, it's designed to make up for the Turbo Lag (which is minimal). It's been designed and calibrated for a specific use case with specific-sized tires etc. Additionally, The battery isn't big enough to sustain anything but short bursts. The Turbo motors feel fantastic to drive with gobs of torque down low.
I encourage everyone who is seriously looking into the 250 to go read the Tundra and Sequoia forums. Unless the "LC 250" is using something completely new (different than the tundra/sequoia) I suspect anyone who swaps significantly bigger tires will be in for a surprise until the tuning market figures things out. (250 forces hybrid for every sale) This further reinforces the GX as the better buy IMO.
Edit: I have also heard plenty of people compare the Hybrid system in the Toyota trucks with the Prius. Sure, there are similar principles, but it is an entirely different animal with a focus on hiding turbo boost instead of gas mileage.
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oh wow. Good points!
xeuxaz
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Watch this starting at 21:40
Mike Sweers says it himself.
Mike Sweers says it himself.
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