ive stopped going out, and when i have no one is wearing masks at least here in joco. not surprising.
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lumbee1
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From WRAL in Raleigh:
Wednesday's totals – 6,495 new cases and 2,440 in hospitals across the state – are the latest in a series of records, a surge that began in mid-November and that has spiked since the first of December.
Vaccines are starting to go out!! My mother got one yesterday, first of the two Pfizer courses. Very happy about that given her circumstances.
Anyone else know people who have had them, or will be soon?
Anyone else know people who have had them, or will be soon?
Interested to hear more; I was looking at the schedule for them earlier this week. So glad to hear she has gotten one.
Duke is the one closest to me, here's their site explaining distribution. We're in 1A right now I guess?
today.duke.edu
Five Things to Know About the Vaccine at Duke | Duke Today
Duke is the one closest to me, here's their site explaining distribution. We're in 1A right now I guess?
Five Things to Know About the Vaccine at Duke | Duke Today
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Do you mind me asking what her situation is? Is she a medical provider or in a care facility? If too personal I understand; just curious.
My mother is a DNP (doctor of nursing practice) for a cardiovascular clinic in upstate NY, assessing surgical patients at a hospital there, who is just recently in remission from breast cancer.
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SFROMAN
SILVER Star
Went ahead and signed up for the RONA vaccine at work. Since I am no longer deployable or on a team I am no longer on the mandatory list to take it. But as a volunteer I might move ahead of the line with others since they will have some. But it will depend on scheduling if I am able to get one or not.
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My wife had the local females of her family (5-6) over for the evening on Saturday. One of them called today to say that a person she spent time with the night before has now tested positive. We’ll see how this plays out as we are supposed to be hosting the family (lots of them) for Xmas; not that I want anything to do with that. All 20 other members seem to think it’s a good idea...
jfz80
Cruisin’
I’m sorry for your fever John. I hope the rest and solitude will heal you quickly 
More vaccine info I received via email:
Friends,
I've been getting a lot of questions from constituents about this, so I've done my best to summarize where things stand.
This is the best available information as of noon on December 18th.
HERE’S THE VACCINE SITUATION IN NORTH CAROLINA
This week, North Carolina got 85,000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
Next week, that will drop to 60,000.
Some of you saw the headlines about Pfizer vaccine shipments being reduced, for reasons that are still unclear. That appears to have happened across the board. So, while we were originally expecting to get another 85,000 Pfizer doses, now it looks closer to 60,000.
But that doesn’t apply to the Moderna vaccine.
Next week, our state will be getting 175,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine - which just became FDA-approved last night, so we now officially have two vaccines.
Both vaccines need to be administered with a first and second shot. The shots must be 21 days apart for Pfizer and 28 days apart for Moderna.
You cannot mix a Pfizer with a Moderna vaccination - you need two doses of the same kind.
These estimates are very rough, but it’s safe to say that within the next six weeks North Carolina will be getting hundreds of thousands (but likely not millions) of doses.
But, keep in mind, everyone needs two doses. So, for example, if we get one million doses by the end of January, that means 500,000 immunizations.
For context, that’s less than 5% of our state.
Many sources, including Dr. Fauci, say that herd immunity kicks in once 75 to 85% of the population is immunized. However, he says that once 50% of the population is immunized we should start to see an effect on slowing community spread.
At this point, it’s safe to say that it will be many months before we hit 50% in North Carolina.
We may very well end up with much more supply than the current rate, but that’s less likely to happen in the next couple months than in the months that follow. Dr. Fauci, for instance, says we should have greater supply starting in late March or early April.
That means that for purposes of controlling the overall rate of infection for the next few months - which will be crucial - the vaccine may not be a major counterweight.
HERE’S WHERE THE VACCINES ARE HEADING WITHIN OUR STATE RIGHT NOW
First, we’re shipping to all the hospitals. We have 116 hospitals in our state. In the first week, we only had enough vaccine to ship to 53 of them, and some of them only received a small number of vaccines.
The 53 hospitals that were chosen for the first shipment all have ultra-cold freezers. Novant, for example, had to quickly buy roughly 20 new sub-zero freezers in order to receive the shipment.
Once the vaccines are unloaded from their ultra-cold delivery box, they must be moved into a freezer within five minutes.
Due to how the vaccine is packaged, the smallest number of Pfizer vaccines that a hospital can receive is 975. You can’t sub-divide that number due to packaging.
The Moderna vaccine is different. It doesn’t require ultra-cold storage, just regular freezer storage. That means it can ship in batches of 100. While supplies are still scarce, this makes the Moderna vaccine more well-suited for rural hospitals and smaller providers.
*Important Note*: Nursing home distribution works differently.
The federal government wanted to give states some flexibility in deciding where vaccines would go *except* when it comes to nursing homes, which they wanted to ensure were a priority.
They also wanted to make sure that the administration of the vaccine in nursing homes was handled with particular care.
So the approach they came up with was to contract with Walgreens and CVS to use their medical staff to administer the vaccine to nursing homes.
And the deal is the federal government will pay for that *as long as* your state allocates at least 50% of the Moderna vaccine to nursing homes.
North Carolina has complied with that, so nursing homes will have the benefit of a large number of trained medical staff on site to handle vaccine administration.
This does not, however, apply to all forms of long-term care facilities. Right now, this is specifically for nursing homes due to their highly elevated risk.
HERE’S HOW THE PHASES WORK (I.E., “YOUR PLACE IN LINE”)
The CDC established guidelines for how states should prioritize vaccine distribution. North Carolina has adopted those guidelines.
1a: Health care workers specifically dealing with COVID (note: this also includes clerical and janitorial staff working in COVID wings) and residents/staff of long-term care facilities.
1b: Adults with at least two chronic conditions that put them at severe risk, and front-line workers at high risk of exposure.
2: Adults over 65, adults under 65 with at least one chronic condition, and front-line workers.
3: College students, K-12 students (when a vaccine is approved for children under 16, which hasn’t happened yet), and essential workers at lower risk of exposure.
4: Everyone else who wants a vaccine.
The most recent estimate is that we may reach group 1b by mid-January. It depends entirely on whether we continue to receive the vaccine at the rate we expect.
1b is a vastly larger pool of individuals than 1a, so unless we start receiving the vaccine more quickly it will likely take much longer to get through 1b.
BOTTOM-LINE
It’s important to stress that the big variable here - how quickly we get more vaccine - is very difficult to predict.
That said, at this point it appears the baseline scenario is that it could be many months before we've immunized enough people for it to become a major limiting factor for community spread.
That means this is still largely up to us, as individuals. We still owe it to each other to keep infection chains as short as possible.
*Our vigilance is the bridge to the vaccine.*
EDIT: removed a policy thing that's not specifically related to the vaccine.
-Sen. Jeff Jackson
Friends,
I've been getting a lot of questions from constituents about this, so I've done my best to summarize where things stand.
This is the best available information as of noon on December 18th.
HERE’S THE VACCINE SITUATION IN NORTH CAROLINA
This week, North Carolina got 85,000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
Next week, that will drop to 60,000.
Some of you saw the headlines about Pfizer vaccine shipments being reduced, for reasons that are still unclear. That appears to have happened across the board. So, while we were originally expecting to get another 85,000 Pfizer doses, now it looks closer to 60,000.
But that doesn’t apply to the Moderna vaccine.
Next week, our state will be getting 175,000 doses of the Moderna vaccine - which just became FDA-approved last night, so we now officially have two vaccines.
Both vaccines need to be administered with a first and second shot. The shots must be 21 days apart for Pfizer and 28 days apart for Moderna.
You cannot mix a Pfizer with a Moderna vaccination - you need two doses of the same kind.
These estimates are very rough, but it’s safe to say that within the next six weeks North Carolina will be getting hundreds of thousands (but likely not millions) of doses.
But, keep in mind, everyone needs two doses. So, for example, if we get one million doses by the end of January, that means 500,000 immunizations.
For context, that’s less than 5% of our state.
Many sources, including Dr. Fauci, say that herd immunity kicks in once 75 to 85% of the population is immunized. However, he says that once 50% of the population is immunized we should start to see an effect on slowing community spread.
At this point, it’s safe to say that it will be many months before we hit 50% in North Carolina.
We may very well end up with much more supply than the current rate, but that’s less likely to happen in the next couple months than in the months that follow. Dr. Fauci, for instance, says we should have greater supply starting in late March or early April.
That means that for purposes of controlling the overall rate of infection for the next few months - which will be crucial - the vaccine may not be a major counterweight.
HERE’S WHERE THE VACCINES ARE HEADING WITHIN OUR STATE RIGHT NOW
First, we’re shipping to all the hospitals. We have 116 hospitals in our state. In the first week, we only had enough vaccine to ship to 53 of them, and some of them only received a small number of vaccines.
The 53 hospitals that were chosen for the first shipment all have ultra-cold freezers. Novant, for example, had to quickly buy roughly 20 new sub-zero freezers in order to receive the shipment.
Once the vaccines are unloaded from their ultra-cold delivery box, they must be moved into a freezer within five minutes.
Due to how the vaccine is packaged, the smallest number of Pfizer vaccines that a hospital can receive is 975. You can’t sub-divide that number due to packaging.
The Moderna vaccine is different. It doesn’t require ultra-cold storage, just regular freezer storage. That means it can ship in batches of 100. While supplies are still scarce, this makes the Moderna vaccine more well-suited for rural hospitals and smaller providers.
*Important Note*: Nursing home distribution works differently.
The federal government wanted to give states some flexibility in deciding where vaccines would go *except* when it comes to nursing homes, which they wanted to ensure were a priority.
They also wanted to make sure that the administration of the vaccine in nursing homes was handled with particular care.
So the approach they came up with was to contract with Walgreens and CVS to use their medical staff to administer the vaccine to nursing homes.
And the deal is the federal government will pay for that *as long as* your state allocates at least 50% of the Moderna vaccine to nursing homes.
North Carolina has complied with that, so nursing homes will have the benefit of a large number of trained medical staff on site to handle vaccine administration.
This does not, however, apply to all forms of long-term care facilities. Right now, this is specifically for nursing homes due to their highly elevated risk.
HERE’S HOW THE PHASES WORK (I.E., “YOUR PLACE IN LINE”)
The CDC established guidelines for how states should prioritize vaccine distribution. North Carolina has adopted those guidelines.
1a: Health care workers specifically dealing with COVID (note: this also includes clerical and janitorial staff working in COVID wings) and residents/staff of long-term care facilities.
1b: Adults with at least two chronic conditions that put them at severe risk, and front-line workers at high risk of exposure.
2: Adults over 65, adults under 65 with at least one chronic condition, and front-line workers.
3: College students, K-12 students (when a vaccine is approved for children under 16, which hasn’t happened yet), and essential workers at lower risk of exposure.
4: Everyone else who wants a vaccine.
The most recent estimate is that we may reach group 1b by mid-January. It depends entirely on whether we continue to receive the vaccine at the rate we expect.
1b is a vastly larger pool of individuals than 1a, so unless we start receiving the vaccine more quickly it will likely take much longer to get through 1b.
BOTTOM-LINE
It’s important to stress that the big variable here - how quickly we get more vaccine - is very difficult to predict.
That said, at this point it appears the baseline scenario is that it could be many months before we've immunized enough people for it to become a major limiting factor for community spread.
That means this is still largely up to us, as individuals. We still owe it to each other to keep infection chains as short as possible.
*Our vigilance is the bridge to the vaccine.*
EDIT: removed a policy thing that's not specifically related to the vaccine.
-Sen. Jeff Jackson
Stay vigilant VA patriots!!!
Virginia Governor’s Call for $4.8 Million and 18-man Force to Grab Guns Sparks Opposition
Virginia Governor Ralph Northam’s call for $4.8 million and an 18-man squad to enforce a proposed disarmament “law” has sparked fierce opposition. by Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.thenewamerican.com
meanwhile in Virginia.
that article is a year old and didn't pass.....
Well now i feel like a goober. That is correct. January 2020. Deleting it.
We all want the vaccine to fix this, but it is not without some hiccups. Apparently several of the vaccines use a modified virus called adenovirus 5 (Ad5), which can increase the chances of devlepoing HIV. Australia scrapped COVID vaccine programs because they had so many people test positive for HIV after taking their vaccine. The vaccinators did say that the tests were false positives, but I imagine that the folks who tested that way are super pissed not knowing what they just had put into their bodies.
www.bbc.com
nypost.com
Covid: Australian vaccine abandoned over false HIV response
Trials of the Australian vaccine returned false-positive HIV tests, but did not harm participants.
www.bbc.com
Some COVID-19 vaccines could increase risk of HIV, researchers warn
A modified virus being used in four COVID-19 vaccine contenders — called adenovirus 5 (Ad5) — has been shown to increase transmission of the AIDS virus in the past.
nypost.com
We all want the vaccine to fix this, but it is not without some hiccups. Apparently several of the vaccines use a modified virus called adenovirus 5 (Ad5), which can increase the chances of devlepoing HIV. Australia scrapped COVID vaccine programs because they had so many people test positive for HIV after taking their vaccine. The vaccinators did say that the tests were false positives, but I imagine that the folks who tested that way are super pissed not knowing what they just had put into their bodies.
Covid: Australian vaccine abandoned over false HIV response
Trials of the Australian vaccine returned false-positive HIV tests, but did not harm participants.Some COVID-19 vaccines could increase risk of HIV, researchers warn
A modified virus being used in four COVID-19 vaccine contenders — called adenovirus 5 (Ad5) — has been shown to increase transmission of the AIDS virus in the past.
Yeah, that is concerning. The two vaccines in use in this country, moderna and pfizer, are not that type though.
Like the article says, that's just one type being developed, of the many that exist.
RedHeadedStepChild
Proudly wearing my MC1R mutation!
Either way, if your not an IV drug user or running around on the significant other, so what?
One of the articles did say that a California company just got FDA approval for their vaccine using the Ad5 virus. It didn’t say where the vaccine would be used. I assume if the FDA approved it, it will be used here.
