I'm not sure I understand your wheel and tire conundrum, but I can attest that wheel spacers are very safe when installed correctly. I go the extra step of checking periodically (every few thousand miles) and they haven't lost torque yet. Install with blue locktite if you're really concerned. I've been in accidents/rollovers where the impact to the front wheel was severe enough to sever a strut at the shaft above the bushing.... the spidertrax spacers were fine and still in use to this day, as far as I'm aware.
Thanks! Yeah, this is def what I want to hear. Love me a good opinion and even more so a good annecdote.
Both severely underrated in 2023.
Long story short on the wheel is I have at least 1 wheel out of 5 that is either defective or damaged and they will warranty a set since its out of production. This is probably due to the fact that they cant decide wether its a hub centric wheel or not (ive seen both on their documentation). Either way, chinese ass wheels, good customer service.
The OEM setup is here since i got 4 for dirt cheap used and i had wanted SL Ps on 20s (for street cred) since moving bc the city of H has extremely harsh roads (like third world quality). I am leaning heavily on Yoko G015s, which i like and have exp with, or the new michelins linked earlier today.
Wasn't tracking why Method is replacing your wheels but sure seems like an opportunity to sell as new if you're not happy? I'd agree that 18" wheels walk a better balance, especially if a single set can serve both needs?
Personally, wheel spacers may not be ideal, but it's a reality. The risks and issues with it has always been process and end user related. Rather than any fundamental fault in application. With your attention to detail, I think you'll be just fine. Torque once, go 50-100miles to allow the hardware to take a set, torque again but apply locktite in the second application, and you're golden. Shoot for a torque range ~10-20% higher wouldn't be a bad idea either on account of the higher wheel loads due to offset and size.
Yep, the Methods are giving me a front end off balance on rotations, something that I had come up a while ago, and played around with by leaving wheels where they were. This trial last rotation confirmed it and I reached out again to get them swapped. Methods parts list that i had saved over the course of 3 years go from showing them as not hub-centric to being so in later revisions.
Im pretty sure despite hub pilot flange dims to be more or less correct (wider than ideal), that at least 1 wheel isn’t true.
I just drive so few miles that its taken that long for me to really be sure, given im always messing around with things myself.
I would have definitely sold them but outside of mud, i dont think theres much demand for 17s. And i’m generally not an a****** so I dont want to sell anyone a bad set (maybe some mud members though LOL).
I think you are right though that 18s are the better choice. There is, at least in my case, way too little brake ventilation with the 17s.
It is choking things up, and when I really beat on it, i can tell the thermal fade is higher than what it should be.
Definitely already adding torque on my wheels as I swear i had read it years ago, and I commented on MUD about it a couple times last year or two. Going from a flat washer-ed nut to a 60 degree cone, I do believe we should all be torquing to at least around 117ish.
This is good advice for everyone to follow really. And the studs take much more using steel wheels per FSM (around 150 lb-ft).
Either way, im sad that my 80 lb. fitment will be gone, but I need the 18s, and prefer the +35 offset, which I didnt have to choose from when I purchased my setup in 2020. If those damn 21s weren’t so s***e none of this would have been the case.