slightly larger spare tire & rear locker

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I hear ya Methusalem...

Think of it this way... if you cut all the tread off a 33 inch tire and then cut all the tread off a 33.5 inch tire you would have two strips of tread. The one from the 33 (assuming it is a true 33) would be 103.673 inches long. The tread strip from the 33.5 inch tire would be 105.243 inches long. These strips of tread represent the distance traveled by one rotation of your tire. Obviously one travels further than the other causing the locker to unload or bind. Just because you change the PSI in the 33.5 inch tire doesn't mean that strip of tread will shrink.

Deflate the 33 inch tire to 0 PSI so the rim goes down an inch from the ground. This leaves a distance of 8.5 inches from the center of the hub. Assuming the tire stays on the bead, by Mace's and Rusty's theories that means that with one revolution of the wheel the tire will only travel 26.704 inches. But we know that is not the way it works.

It's the same thing as running different sized tires on the front and rear of a 4x4 vehicle (with the same gears in the axles). If you don't have any slip the transfer case (which is essentially a locked diff) will bind.
 
The plane takes off is right...

lol
 
Maybe the wheels are spinning inside your aired down tire.

If you had a blob of paint on your tire and drove down the road it would leave paint marks spaced "x" distance apart. If you took 10 lbs of air out of the tire and drove down the road the marks would still be "x" distance apart.

Think abowwt it maan.
 
Blue, you get my point! The story of Mace or whoever came up with it (nice discussion by the way, guys. It gets my brains working again:D) would be right if the tire was not connected with the rim. Then the rim would just roll over the inside of the tire and not use the whole radius of the tire with one cycle of the smaller spare at the other side.
Mace, go back to school, ya hear?! You must have had a worse math teacher than me:hillbilly:
 
The plane takes off is right...

lol
I know right?

My initial response was the same as the naysayers, once I had a mental image similar to the little picture I posted earlier it all became clear to me.
 
The story of Mace??? lol

I doubt my math teachers were worse than yours were ;)
 
The plane does take off... assuming the wheels don't fly to pieces.

Ok, I got it. I am 85% sure that I was WRONG.

I was basing my reasoning on the measured circumference and not the "rolling circumference" as referenced by Mace. Basically without the air pressure to support the rubber of the tire it makes tiinyy folds onto itself as the side in contact with the dirt/pavement compresses and the opposite side (within the tire plys) goes into tension. That is how I interpret it after poking around the internet.
 
me too!

i think what most people were missingg is that the math for a circle (inflated tire) does not hold for the shape of a deflated tire, then throw some angular momentum in there... and the fact that the deflated tire shape does not rotate but stays the same relative to the ground and things can quickly get confusing.

swamp60
 
indeed :)
 
Need some aspirines!!! :eek: You know what I'll do? As soon as I found some money for a 24V tire pump, or whatever you guys in the Ustated Nites call such a device, I'll measure my tires, throw a paint blob on one, drive a cycle, deflate it and do the same thing. Is that alright with you guys?:idea:
 
wow.. my brain hurts after looking at this thread.. i tried to stay away from it, but then i saw how many post there are and i had to look at it and see if i could learn anything...:D

I have been running lock-rites for 15 years or so and more than once have had to run a different brand or a slightly different size spare and really never had any problem IIRC. But i have never had to do it at highway speeds or for a long distance... But i agree if this was done for a long period of time i would bet it would cause some problems..

like metioned above, if you are locked only in the rear you can swap them around and be ok.

just my .02... i have no algebra to add.. :p

:cheers:
 
Dudes, last question from the guy with the headache: what is an "ME"? Can you eat it? Does it hurt? Can you get a ticket for it?
 
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