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[FloridaLife]

Does anyone know where I can find this shifter? It is not the transmission shifter. It is on the lower left side, and the shifter to engage the Todd Toyota Overdrive. I've tried Google searching "Todd Overdrive Inc" which is printed on the exploded diagram, no luck, and on that diagram the shifter is part number 54. I also searched on Ebay Motors Parts, no luck.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

 

[charliemeyer007]

Good job with your research. Posting Pic's is very helpful. I would just make it. Cardboard aided design. A first approximation is the hole spacing. Measure that distance on your unit, and then scale up the drawing to match - cut it out of like 3/16 or quarter inch plate, bend. Die on some threads and screw on your shift knob of choice

 

[FloridaLife]

Good job with your research. Posting Pic's is very helpful. I would just make it. Cardboard aided design. A first approximation is the hole spacing. Measure that distance on your unit, and then scale up the drawing to match - cut it out of like 3/16 or quarter inch plate, bend. Die on some threads and screw on your shift knob of choice

Thank you for your response. 20 or 30 years ago that is exactly what I would have done. However, since I no longer have a shop, and all of my tools were stolen many years ago, and Parkinson's symptoms have robbed me of even being able to drink a cup of coffee much less fabricate, I'll have to search for a pre-made shifter or one from something else that would match up and work, or get a local machine shop to fabricate one for me.

 

[Trollhole]

Learn something new every day. Never heard of a Todd OD. That's a pretty complex piece syncros and all.

 

[charliemeyer007]

Yea life can be a box of chocolate - sometimes it's ex-lax. Until you, I never even heard of Todd's unit, but hopefully one will appear in answer to this thread.

I don't think you need a machine shop to make you that - a local good ole boy should be able to fab that up easy enough. There are places online that will make your stuff - you should be able to easily scale that drawing up once you have that bolt hole spacing.

 

[FloridaLife]

Learn something new every day. Never heard of a Todd OD. That's a pretty complex piece syncros and all.

Me too (learning every day). Here is another image of that diagram but I rotated it to make it easier to view:

 

[JohnnyC]

You will not find one... make it looks maybe 3/16" plate cut to the shape of a template as charlie said

If you look many MANY years you may find another complete unit that somebody has that would make a template for you... they would not sell just the handle without you buying the whole thing

It took me 10 years to find FST bows .... before the time of plenty (now)... a friend in australia let me know he just sold a set to Marv and when Marv got it he sold it to me... Marv Spector was the man to get the obscure stuff from he literally had it all and was generous to his cruiser brothers... I would not be surprised If he was still around today he would most likely have one to make a template from .... had you tried to contact any vendors like SOR.com to see if they have the obscure unicorn part that you could purchase a template from?

Unicorns can be found... usually it's time consuming

here's one holding a FST canvas door window pull

 

[charliemeyer007]

So I think the thickness is the notch in part 40. The bend is to get plumb to the angle of the case. While not a true engineering drawing, it sure looks to me to be some what to scale.

Good luck, I hope something works out.

 

[FloridaLife]

You will not find one... make it looks maybe 3/16" plate cut to the shape of a template as charlie said

If you look many MANY years you may find another complete unit that somebody has that would make a template for you... they would not sell just the handle without you buying the whole thing

It took me 10 years to find FST bows .... before the time of plenty (now)... a friend in australia let me know he just sold a set to Marv and when Marv got it he sold it to me... Marv Spector was the man to get the obscure stuff from he literally had it all and was generous to his cruiser brothers... I would not be surprised If he was still around today he would most likely have one to make a template from .... had you tried to contact any vendors like SOR.com to see if they have the obscure unicorn part that you could purchase a template from?

Unicorns can be found... usually it's time consuming

here's one holding a FST canvas door window pull

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LOL on the unicorn.

My "hope" is that maybe out there somewhere someone was using one of these Overdrive units or one very similar like a Fairey Overdrive or similar and that their overdrive tore up internally beyond repair but they have the shifter available from it. Even if from a different brand, it may be similar enough that it could have holes drilled to match what I need and be able to use it.

Although I am fairly new here and to the FJ40 scene, this is not the first time I've seen mention or reference to "Marv Spector". Sounds like a really great guy, and I wish I had the opportunity to meet him.

I also reached out to CCOT, and they recommended checking with SOR and classic cruisers which I am going to do today too.

Thank you everyone!

 

[JohnnyC]

the Fairy OD is definitely not the same..... this is its own thing... luckily its simple enough to create

 

[45Kevin]

Check out your nearest TLCA chapter and join their chat forum. (see the clubhouse tab at the top of the page)
I'm sure some enterprising young member will step up and bend a piece of 1" x 3/16 steel flat bar for you.

 

[Living in the Past]

Would be easy to just modify some thing already made. The FJ62 high low range shifter comes to mind. But shorter than what Todd used. But I've seen 60/70 series transmission cane extensions available on eBay AU. Transmission shift cane and FJ62 transfer case shifter share the same threads for the knobs so those extensions would work. Personally I think that flat bar looks crude and home made. By the thickness I wonder how much force is required the to shift OD.

Lower center in this picture is a couple FJ62 transfer case shifter. Top of the flat section has a hole with a rubber bushing with a steel sleeve. Looks like enough flat bar below that hole for second hole and grind off the rest.

Would say PTO shifter but besides being hard to find that are not that stout.

 

[Mark Jennings]

Made my own for my Bone-O-Drive overdrive…flat steel, threaded end for the knob, cool beens antique Bakelite knob…..and I used a shaft through the tunnel instead of cutting a gaping huge hole for a shift lever…. Use your imagination, get creative….

 

[FloridaLife]

Would be easy to just modify some thing already made. The FJ62 high low range shifter comes to mind. But shorter than what Todd used. But I've seen 60/70 series transmission cane extensions available on eBay AU. Transmission shift cane and FJ62 transfer case shifter share the same threads for the knobs so those extensions would work. Personally I think that flat bar looks crude and home made. By the thickness I wonder how much force is required the to shift OD.

Lower center in this picture is a couple FJ62 transfer case shifter. Top of the flat section has a hole with a rubber bushing with a steel sleeve. Looks like enough flat bar below that hole for second hole and grind off the rest.
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Would say PTO shifter but besides being hard to find that are not that stout.

Good news! The seller of the drivetrain let me know they did find the shifter for the Todd Overdrive unit while getting everything ready to ship. Woohoo!

With that said, I agree with you 100%, that does look like it could be fairly easily modified to work, and would look much better than flat bar. And with a boot over it, nobody would even know. Speaking of boots, it looks like you need some more!

 

[Living in the Past]

Good news! The seller of the drivetrain let me know they did find the shifter for the Todd Overdrive unit while getting everything ready to ship. Woohoo!

With that said, I agree with you 100%, that does look like it could be fairly easily modified to work, and would look much better than flat bar. And with a boot over it, nobody would even know. Speaking of boots, it looks like you need some more!

Glad they were able to find the shifter, if nothing else you can use it for the proper spacing for the holes.


I know I need more boots and I'm working on it.

Do not believe there is a Fairey overdrive boot in this picture. Those are leather and designed to mount to a flat surface. Most transfer case boots for the Land Cruises are made to fit on the right side and angle back.

 

[charliemeyer007]

I made my transfer case boot out of used waterproof tent floor.

 

[thatcabledude]

OP, have you considered converting to “twin sticks” for the t-case? I couldn’t stand the janky stock linkages. Easy conversion, plus who doesn’t want 4 knobs sticking out of the hump?

 

[FloridaLife]

Made my own for my Bone-O-Drive overdrive…flat steel, threaded end for the knob, cool beens antique Bakelite knob…..and I used a shaft through the tunnel instead of cutting a gaping huge hole for a shift lever…. Use your imagination, get creative….
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Looks great.

 

[FloridaLife]

Glad they were able to find the shifter, if nothing else you can use it for the proper spacing for the holes.


I know I need more boots and I'm working on it.
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Do not believe there is a Fairey overdrive boot in this picture. Those are leather and designed to mount to a flat surface. Most transfer case boots for the Land Cruises are made to fit on the right side and angle back.

If the zombie apocalypse comes and shifter boots are to zombies what garlic is to vampires, then I'm loading up my family and coming to your house!

 

[Living in the Past]

Made my own for my Bone-O-Drive overdrive…flat steel, threaded end for the knob, cool beens antique Bakelite knob…..and I used a shaft through the tunnel instead of cutting a gaping huge hole for a shift lever…. Use your imagination, get creative….
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A life time ago I drove trucks that had two speed rear axles, referred to as split rear axles. Those had a cable running up the transmission shifter
with a knob similar to a choke cable. Knob was just below the knob for the transmission. Four speeds became eight speeds. Five speeds became ten speeds. They were kinda tricky to shift. But once you got down in a single motion could shift up a gear in the transmission while shifting the rear axle from high to low gear. This was useful with heavy loads climbing hills. Probably be handy in a FJ40 having a high and low range for each gear. Doubt you could shift an overdrive with a cable. A solenoid might work if it have a long enough throw. Have the cable control a three pole switch. OD shifter in a different location would make it hard to down shift the OD while up shift the transmission in a single motion.