While your at it, cut the fenders on the 100. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that haha!
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Why would I do that? Wheel wells are fine the way they are
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SaaS it & bring it to 100's in the Hills 
It's great that this isn't your first rodeo with building a rig. You are asking a question that only 3 people know. The reason people are telling you it will cost more than $5K is it's only been done twice, both were well north of $20,000. You are asking a narrow minded group of people that drive IFS rigs, we don't have the experience behind SAS. The reality is none of us do. It's just not a platform that you see SAS'd everyday.
Get cutting and prove us all wrong it can be done for $5K. If so, I'll be following shortly after.
Get cutting and prove us all wrong it can be done for $5K. If so, I'll be following shortly after.
I'm fairly confident in saying that you would be one of many to SAS if it's ~5k. That would open new doors for everybody
80 axle is narrower a 100 series frame is wider, neither are show stoppers but they don't make for an optimal swap. I would think while you are at it you would do a 3 link? I would think you might as well just get a Ruff Stuff or Diamond Axle housing, put the diff where it needs to be 80 bell ends and custom shafts aren't that expensive not to mention running 37's you will probably want chromo shafts anyways.
This. You could also look into the hellfire knuckles depending on the steering.
Another option would be using an 80 front axle with 6 to 5 lug wheel spacers/adapters though that would likely screw up the scrub radius.
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Do it. Not sure why so many are so down on the idea.
I'd start with a diamond housing personally at the width you want/need. Seems easier to get custom inners than solve the issues of using a 80 width axle.
From memory Slee swapped the rear hubs to 6 bolt to use the 80 series fronts. (Blueberry)
$5K might be a little light but I certainly think it can be done for a reasonable amount of funds by the home builder. I guess it comes down to your resources of finding parts and how high end you go.
I'd start with a diamond housing personally at the width you want/need. Seems easier to get custom inners than solve the issues of using a 80 width axle.
From memory Slee swapped the rear hubs to 6 bolt to use the 80 series fronts. (Blueberry)
$5K might be a little light but I certainly think it can be done for a reasonable amount of funds by the home builder. I guess it comes down to your resources of finding parts and how high end you go.
I say do go for it! The great thing is as the 100's drop in price the DIYers will be more likely to want to chop, swap etc. Just like what's happened with the 80's the last 5 or so years. I want an excuse to keep the wifeys locked 100 w/ 120k miles!
Just adding in my 2c
In Aus we have heaps of the 105s around, wrecking inc, maybe cheaper bringing a complete 105 diff over for the conversion...
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In Aus we have heaps of the 105s around, wrecking inc, maybe cheaper bringing a complete 105 diff over for the conversion...
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RockJock82
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I hear the 105 diff is an 80 axle with 5 lugs am I wrong? I am also entertaining the idea of the ruff stuff housing for the front. Just need to narrow down the best option on making it easy for the semi DIY'er. 5k is a goal if it costs me 7 then so be it still better than 20+~! Now find someone to buy my LX600 and I'll get started on this already
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Q1) Well...if the goal is to have the interior space of a 100 body (on SA front)...would it be easier and arguably better overall to build a 105? Especially given you already have an LX600?
Q2) At the end of the day will an SAS'd 100 truly have more marks on the Pro side of the equation?
Q3) Or is the idea of an SAS'd 100 born more out of the challenge of doing something cheaper/yourself than the 3+ Slee has already done?
Q2) At the end of the day will an SAS'd 100 truly have more marks on the Pro side of the equation?
Q3) Or is the idea of an SAS'd 100 born more out of the challenge of doing something cheaper/yourself than the 3+ Slee has already done?
SAS'ing a 100 seems to be all the rage lately, but I'm not sure I'm totally on board. Essentially you're taking a huge vehicle and making it a huge rock crawler. It won't be better on pavement, it won't be better on dirt/washboard/standard trails and depending on what parts you use, it might hurt the ability to quickly fix a problem on the trail. Any custom or rare parts you use in your build cannot be easily sourced when needed.
From a progression standpoint, I think it will be fun to watch and read about. For the most part, I'm happy with the IFS. I've done a lot of trails with SA 80's and followed along just fine. Certainly there are benefits to have a SA, I just don't think it will change my life. Without a doubt, there are other vehicles more suited to this swap.
105 also has a FF rear correct?
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Not exactly sure how this is benefiting to the initial post? I get the pessimism due to what is involved here and it can seem overwhelming but good Lord some people live outside the box.... I give props to Slee but it's not my intent to say I can do it for less, he's a business I am not. As these rigs become cheap people won't be afraid to rip into them and try new things.
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I never posted I was building a rockcrawler, 37 inch tires doesn't quite meet that status... I don't take any of my vehicles to the dealer for maintenance so there is no need to fear about working on it and for custom parts what would potentially fail, a shaft? Most people carry spare birfields... Still not understanding the hesitation. Thanks for the input
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I think Spresso is just asking what your end goal is. If it's just to do it because and then sell it like you are with your LX, then so be it. Most here make plans for their trucks for the long haul and as they look at it from that perspective, a solid front doesn't have the benefits that outweigh the cost.
Yes..105 has FF rear.
I think the fact its only been done ~3x says alot about the viability of the project...especially given we're dealing with a 16-year old+ platform...
But, again, it would be great to see your build thread progress
But, again, it would be great to see your build thread progress
